Archive site longevity - In-house archives

[gagabobo1997]

Lots of archives are off-site. archive.ph/is and ghostarchive are two of the biggest archival tools, but i've been wondering: what happens if/when those get taken down? Do the teams behind them have the funding and willpower to handle a massive deplatforming campaign? Maybe they do, but i'm not sure.
In general i'm surprised that the farms puts such faith in these off-site archives. Obviously if they are all we have we have to make do, but I don't think its ideal.

Is there any possibility of local kiwi website archives? There's, as far as i know, pretty good FOSS website archival tools. Are there roadblocks that i'm not seeing when it comes to archiving websites locally on the kiwi farms network? If it takes lots of resources to archive sites, perhaps restrict it to reputable users so that it doesn't get abused?

 

[Null]

yeah, it's on my to do list. he used to have .zip archives but got rid of them.

 

[MrTroll]

I propose an archive site to archive the Kiwi Farms, and then another archive site to archive the archive site.

 

[Neil]

I propose an archive site to archive the Kiwi Farms, and then another archive site to archive the archive site.

But then how will we archive the archive's archive?

 

[Gog & Magog]

But then how will we archive the archive's archive?

It's archive sites all the way down.

 

[Lord of the Large Pants]

If we control the archives, cows will accuse us of altering them.

 

[gagabobo1997]

If we control the archives, cows will accuse us of altering them.

In that case the standard procedure should just be archiving off-site as well and linking to both.

Maybe sneedforo could have a place for archive and direct links in embedded images, so a screenshot wouldn't need [A|L] underneath it and could have all the relevant links accessable when clicking the embed/thumbnail. Idk

 

[rebel]

Who archives Kiwifarms? Is there any archive? I'm not aware of any, besides a few pages on archive.today is there even a way to mass archive forums like Kiwifarms?

 

[peachlover669]

I propose we do it the old fashioned way

 

[Space Police]

I propose we do it the old fashioned way

When Scientology goes kaput, Null needs to buy their desert vaults and encode all threads, tweets, and videos into golden plates in cold storage to survive a nuclear apocalypse.

 

[mindlessobserver]

I propose we do it the old fashioned way
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Unironically. Null will have Binders full of Cows.

 

[Snorky]

The main benefit to off-site archives is that they are independent from this forum.

We all know that the Kiwi Farms has a reputation surrounding it thanks to misinformation campaigns originally perpetrated by cows documented here and then massively signalboosted by both sensationalist media companies looking for a quick buck and social media websites, so nothing we post here is considered credible alone since as Lord of the Large Pants brought up, we'd just be accused of altering or even outright fabricating the archives.

Since that isn't possible with independent archiving websites like GhostArchive and Archive.is, I'd wager that the independent status gives the claims we make more credence (thus making it safer for anyone actually wishing to do due dilligence with their research to use the KiwiFarms as notes, which has happened before) as it's harder to refute something hosted on independently owned archive websites that people know we can't tamper with. We use independent archives as proof that something happened and that we aren't just making shit up, so hosting our own archives kind of defeats that purpose.

 

[WhiteNight]

In Soviet Russia, site archives you!

 

[eval()]

is there even a way to mass archive forums like Kiwifarms?

Spoiler

 

[GettrGriftr]

Where is the archive that Josh used in today's stream to find that old clip of Melinda Scott's now-headless dead husband wishing Yahweh's curses on folk?