Argue in favour of a position you disagree with.

Toucan

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Sometimes I like to think about how I would justify a certain belief or principle that I don't actually agree with. It is something that I think a lot more people should do. A lot of retardation in politics and the world in general is caused by people who are just so certain of themselves and so unwilling to ever consider what the other side has to say. I also think that it is a great way to break up echo chambers as more often than not it leads people to entirely new perspectives which, in a particularly tight echo chamber, always results in a hilarious Hindenburg-esque collapse.
It is also a great way to shore up your own genuine beliefs as it allows you to better refute opposing views.

Allow me to demonstrate.

Democracy is a failure and should be abolished. Time and time again the vast majority of people have proven that they are far too easily swayed by even the most inept of demagogues. People are singularly impressed by symbols of state and parades of national might so much so that they are unable to imagine a better way of living, that is if they even have the desire to do so. For many the effort of constant attention and protection that democracy requires proves far too much for them. Most people would prefer a set it and forget it system that rarely ever bothers them so long as they are allowed to continue living the same way as they always have.
Che Guevara, Vladimir Lenin and Benito Mussolini all understood that the great masses of the people are more than content to live their lives in exactly the same way as their ancestors did before them, even if that way of life impacted on them negatively, both these men knew that the vast majority of people simply fell short of being worthy to live in a democracy and that any attempt to get them interested in advancing their democracy would be like setting fire to Helium.

We see this today in the decline of the western powers. decades of neglect have allowed the democratic powers of the world to become increasingly corrupt and stagnant. A vote no longer carries with it the power it once had as most politics is now a theatre with the script already written and the audience reaction already precalculated. There is nobody to blame but the people. It was the people who failed to see through the lies of their candidates. It was the people who failed to make up their minds and speak in a united voice. It was the people who failed to become better educated on matters of state and allowed petty tyrants to dictate to them just how things were. The people have certainly gotten what they voted for.
To quote Winston Churchill. The best argument against democracy is a five minute conversation with the average voter.
 
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Robert Kirkman is a swell guy who definitely isn't a virtue signalling fat moron who would run his comic into the ground to appease sjw's. He also respects the cast and story he's spent decades writing and certainty wouldn't just drop it all for a year just to pander to an unpleasable cancerous fanbase who does nothing but cry about the lack of transgender Latino latinex muslim lesbians in his comic, which is why he added them in and gave them a cover poster for them. How nice of him to do all of that, I sure hope the next 10 years of the walking dead will be just as fun as the last year has been; it's so sad that he's loosing sales, he didn't propagate that at all.
 
Child pornography should be legal.

Why should it be illegal to watch something illegal? That sets a horrifyingly dangerous precedent. I should be allowed to watch murder and read the emails illegally stored on Clinton's servers. No media should be illegal.
 
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Socialism, and later (actual) Communism, is the only way to protect the weak, the poor and the discriminated. Meritocracy is not worth it in the face of leaving behind those that we should strive to protect instead. It is through unity that humanity thrives, not by placing the best of us on a pedestal. After all, that's what animals do, while humans invented societies based on principles of equality and union; and because of that, we became the rulers of the Earth.

Which bring us to the logical conclusion that we should accept as much refugees as possible, because they are human just like us and our societies are based on the principles that all humans must be helped, if possible. That's why prisons are reformative institutions instead of death camps for the unwanted. Also, we are all very rich and fortunate to being born in Countries that are not war-torn, so it's only natural that we share with the less fortunate.

By the way, this is also why machine assisted living and anti-abortion are arguments so hotly debated: the human conditions of those affected by it place a huge moral dilemma on society: frail, old people are humans too, so they must be kept alive though any means necessary, even if they'd die instantly if ever detached from their machines and are effectively incapable of thinking anymore. Same as fetuses: if a fetus is a human, why should we place the mother before it; after all, they are equally human. That's why these arguments must be though out carefully and we must not permit utilitarianism to take our decisions for us, or we wouldn't be better than unfeeling machines.

You are right, OP: knowing why others think differently than you helps you put things in perspective and more people should do it in general.
 
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My opinion is very valuable and my views are well thought out. KF is full of similarly intelligent, well-thought out views from mentally stable people of astounding intellect. Your life has inherent value, and you should absolutely stay alive, because there are people who would care and notice if you didn't.

Well, I'm off to do something productive with my time and not masturbate to porn that is morally sound and doesn't make me question my mental health.
 
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