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Australia plans to ban children from social media. Is checking and enforcing an age block possible?​

As the Albanese government pledges a ban, age verification trials in the UK and US show possible hurdles and privacy concerns
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Josh Taylor
Mon 9 Sep 2024 23.44 EDT

The federal government says it will introduce legislation by the end of 2024 to set an age limit for social media use, likely to be between 14 and 16. Photograph: Matt Cardy/Getty Images

The federal government says it will introduce legislation by the end of 2024 to set an age limit for social media use, likely to be between 14 and 16. Photograph: Matt Cardy/Getty Images

Australia plans to ban children from social media. Is checking and enforcing an age block possible?

As the Albanese government pledges a ban, age verification trials in the UK and US show possible hurdles and privacy concerns

Mon 9 Sep 2024 23.44 EDT

The prime minister, Anthony Albanese, has said the government will impose an as-yet-undefined ban on younger teenagers and children from accessing social media before the next election.

On Tuesday, Albanese announced the plan to introduce legislation into parliament by the end of 2024 to block children from social media and other digital platforms unless they are over a certain age – likely to be between 14 and 16. It will come after the $6.5m trial of age verification or assurance technology funded in May’s budget.


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It followed South Australia’s plan, announced Monday, to restrict access to people aged 14 and over, and the Coalition announcing earlier this year it would ban children under 16 from social media within 100 days if it won the next election.

Questions remain about what methods may be used, and whether a ban will be enforceable, or effective.

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What are the options for verifying ages?

On Tuesday, the federal government put out a tender for the age assurance trial but there is little detail of what will be included. Some sites, such as Instagram, already employ limited age verification for some users using ID, but there is not one method used by the industry.

Based on the experience of other countries, there are a few options.

Most proponents suggest Australia should follow the UK’s example. The UK scheme is still in its early stages and only applies to adult sites, not social media.

It outlines five ways companies can verify users’ age, but some would not work for under-16s:

  • Allowing banks to confirm a user is over 18.
  • Allowing mobile providers to confirm a user is an adult.
  • Credit card checks: credit card holders in the UK need to be over 18; the website can check with the issuer that the card is valid.
  • Asking site users to upload a photo that is then matched with photo ID.
  • Use of facial age estimation technology.
In last year’s roadmap for age verification, the eSafety commissioner recommended a “double-blind tokenised approach”. That is a device-based token where a third-party provider transfers proof-of-age information between sites and age assurance providers, to protect user privacy.

Meta, the parent company of Facebook and Instagram, has also advocated verification on the device level – meaning Google and Apple would verify the ages of people wanting to download specific social media apps.


Will it work?

In the South Australian review, a former chief justice of the high court, Robert French, noted compliance – and enforcing it on companies outside Australia – would be challenging.

Guardian Australia previously reported the UK’s regulator cast doubt on whether facial age estimation would be effective on younger people, but the facial estimation companies disputed this.

Documents uncovered by Guardian Australia include the communications department’s August 2023 survey of the international landscape of age assurance technology, released under FoI.

It said: “No countries have implemented an age verification mandate without issue.”

According to the documents, problems found overseas included:

  • UK age verification laws abandoned in 2019 due to “delays, technical difficulties and community concern for privacy”.
  • In the US, the report noted the states of Utah and Louisiana, where age verification was brought in, experienced an almost 1,000% and threefold respective increase in the use of virtual private network (VPN) technology to bypass the restrictions.
Estimates briefing documents prepared for the eSafety commissioner late last year – also released under FoI – also stated “no country in the world has solved this problem”.

The commissioner’s notes said any system in Australia would need to be “effective and enforceable”, and cover more than just the sites deemed unsuitable for minors, including search engines.

But French said these hurdles did not mean it was not worth pursuing.

“There will undoubtedly be workarounds by knowledgable child users. However, the perfect should not be the enemy of the good,” French said.


Will there be privacy concerns?

If the government pursues a method where companies require all users – not just those younger users – to verify their ages before being able to use a platform, it could result in social media companies being forced to collect user identification, which would raise privacy questions.

This is likely a less palatable option, given high-profile cyber-attacks on companies already required to collect ID – Optus and Medibank – that led to the personal information of millions of Australians being exposed.

The government might require the use of its planned digital ID service to reduce the risk, but that has yet to be decided.


Will social media companies comply?

The South Australian proposal, as well as the Coalition’s, suggests fines could be levied against companies that fail to enforce age restrictions.

The Online Safety Act already empowers the eSafety commissioner to seek fines against companies for failing to comply with notices, but those powers are now being tested in the courts against X.

The outcome, along with the current review of the Online Safety Act, will likely inform whether such laws can be enforced.

Legislation also likely needs to address what happens for new social media companies, or lesser-known platforms younger people may use if they can no longer access the main players. As French said, for platforms with little presence in Australia, this may be hard to enforce.

The Online Safety Act already empowers the commissioner to block websites and remove apps from app stores for failing to comply with orders – as a nuclear option.

Source : https://www.theguardian.com/austral...n-social-media-ban-age-limit-under-16-details

 
I fucking hate this dogshit country so much. These boomer politicians who don't have a fucking clue about technology always come up with these "brilliant" ideas, like building our internet infrastructure out of existing copper wire for old phone lines, or the "great digital firewall" they tried many years ago. All this is gonna do is force people to hand their IDs over to these websites, giving even greater surveillance and effectively killing anonymity on the internet. But nobody thinks of those consequences, because won't someone think of the children?
 
Many adults know and realize that social media is nothing but "anti-social media" with little to no gain and only harm. As a father I rue already the day my kid will discover social media and how I am going to have to help navigate a wholly, brain rotting, nothing to be gained experience my kid will endure for hours a day making them braindead.

I think having my kid watch BET would be equally destructive.
 
I see both sides. Personally, I don't even regret not touching grass beyond the bare minimum as a teen because my life then just sucked that much. On the other hand, things did get worse after I left my teens, at least based on what younger online friends born in the early '00s have had to say, with stuff like entire friend groups having weird gender identities and even the girls watching porn, whereas it was just the boys during my time, and even then, just the pervy ones. If you ask me, the solution is to ban non-chronological feeds for teens below a certain age, because at least they wouldn't be exposed to social contagions as fast compared to if their feeds were algorithm-based.
 
These boomer politicians who don't know a thing about tech
We used to have a tech literate MP from the otherwise anti-science Green Party, but he was kicked out of parliament for not renouncing his automatic New Zealand citizenship from when he was a baby.
Make sure to go after the social media sites before the porn sites. Very good priorities
I'm actually not sure what is worse. Porn leads to depravity but Social Media has constant dopamine traps and there is more social pressure to participate.
This is something the parents should be doing, not the government.
It's too easy to quieten a child with an Ipad. Should the victims be punished for this?
 
Albanese? Is Australia in Albania?
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The entire world is in Albania.

This is something the parents should be doing, not the government. Governments proven time and tume again they make for bad parents.
Well, if you punish the parents for child neglect, if, for example, their kid starts to partake in cutting due to interact a lot with pro-self harm groups, it could have a positive outcome
 
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The idea of banning children from social media is good but enforcing it by having the user confirm their age with their ID is always sketchy. You don't want the big tech companies to know who you are while knowing your political stances/opinions. That's the beauty of being anonymous.
 
Many adults know and realize that social media is nothing but "anti-social media" with little to no gain and only harm. As a father I rue already the day my kid will discover social media and how I am going to have to help navigate a wholly, brain rotting, nothing to be gained experience my kid will endure for hours a day making them braindead.

I think having my kid watch BET would be equally destructive.
I have a feeling most of these social media sites aren't profitable in the long run and can't run without free money from governments and venture capitalists.

So give it a decade or two we will be back to the 90s internet.
 
I have a feeling most of these social media sites aren't profitable in the long run and can't run without free money from governments and venture capitalists.

So give it a decade or two we will be back to the 90s internet.
That was true of pre-Musk twitter, and of Youtube until recently, but both of them have become profitable since. It is Meta/Facebook, Instagram, Reddit and TikTok the ones that are currently struggling
 
First it will be kids, later it will be adults who don't have the same opinion as their rulers. Also unironically the best way to get kids off of brainrot would be to crank up the price of streaming videos on mobile. Because if its too expensive to stream, that just about solves the Tiktok brainrot and doomscrolling because now they have to worry about their finances and either will have to swear themselves off of their addiction or pay more. Of course, our short-sighted rulers won't do it because they want a pacified populace and not to mention getting that extra bonus of de-anonymizing people. Never mind the fact this is also affecting their kids as well and the only outcome I can see come out of this is things falling apart even harder until those services stop functioning correctly.

Australia is just going to make their own version of the Great Firewall of China. Bye, Bruce. It was nice knowing you.
 
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