Disaster Barely 50% of iPhone Casings Made By India's Largest Company Meet Apple's Minimum Quality Standards - SUPAPOWER 2020

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Apple is facing difficulties scaling up its production operations in India amid poor component yields and slow progress, the Financial Times reports.

The company is apparently contending with immense difficulties in ramping up production in the country. At a factory in Hosur run by Apple supplier Tata that manufactures iPhone casings, only one in every two components coming off the production line "is in good enough shape" to be sent forward to assembly at Foxconn. The 50 percent yield is particularly low for almost any production operation and works against Apple's "zero-defect" manufacturing and environmental goals.

Former Apple engineers told the Financial Times that Chinese ‌iPhone‌ suppliers and government officials have a "whatever it takes" approach to win ‌iPhone‌ orders, describing how work was often completed weeks ahead of schedule at "inexplicable speed." Operations in India, on the other hand, are not running at this pace. "There just isn't a sense of urgency," one Apple engineer remarked.

Apple is apparently focused on a long term plan to improve manufacturing proficiency in the country. The company has sent product designers and engineers from California and China to factories in southern India to train locals and help set up production operations, according to four individuals who purport to be familiar with the matter.

Apple began producing entry-level ‌iPhone‌ models, starting with the iPhone SE, in India in 2017. Last year, Apple significantly stepped up its production in India, building some iPhone 14 models in the country within weeks of their launch in China.

Tata is said to have ambitions to become a full-service Apple supplier in the future and is in talks to take over a troubled Wistron iPhone assembly plant in Karnataka. Apple's long-term plan to diversify its global supply chain continues.

 

[Kheapathic]

Seriously makes me interested in their space program. Launch at least 2 rockets at the same time, if one doesn't make it, the other should...

 

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Seriously makes me interested in their space program. Launch at least 2 rockets at the same time, if one doesn't make it, the other should...

The only Indian to travel into space did so on a Soviet rocket in 1984. The Indian is intelligent in his refusal to fly on a home-grown rocket, if nothing else.

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

Wait, Tata? Isn’t that like a literal phone company?

Ohshit they employ a million pajeets and own air India

 

[TowinKarz]

Tata?

You mean the same company that made the world's cheapest, smallest, production car?

And did such a poor job of it most Indians said "Nah Bruh, we'll just keep riding our motorcycles 6-at-a-time"?

I'm SHOCKED.

SHOCKED! *






* Is not shocked.

 

[Breadbassket]

How can India ever hope to overtake China if even their sweat shops are second rate?

 

[Dizzydent]

Never trust an Indian. Out of the 100s I've met they're the worst people ever. Biggest frauds and liars. Any Indian who says he's a tech expert 99% of the time cheated through college or university and has the computer intelligence of your average 14 year old white boy. I fucking hate Indians so much. They should never make it further in the world than being an Uber driver.

Give me hats if you want. I'm still pissed Canada is taking millions of them in this year I'm the largest immigration move canada has ever made all because people aren't having babies anymore. So instead of the government encouraging our own population to get it on; let's throw millions of pajeets into the country which has a housing crisis and identity crisis and language problem cause half the people here don't speak English. What could possibly go wrong. I hate my country but Indians are the absolute worst.

 

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How can India ever hope to overtake China if even their sweat shops are second rate?

The funny thing about India is that they are sometimes capable of doing good work in exceptional circumstances. It isn't necessarily useful outside India but it works.

Like... the Indians made their own 'high speed train'. High speed trains in France cruise at 320 kph. High speed trains in China are now approaching 400 kph. Train 18 by contrast usually runs at 130 kph (the fastest steam train in history could do nearly 130 MPH), BUT, that is at least half as much faster again as most Indian express trains and it regularly shrugs off impacts with cows at that speed without completely derailing and everyone dying. Could the Shinkansen do that? No. Would other countries simply make sure that cows do not wander onto high-speed train tracks? Yes, but that is impossible in India, and so an engineering solution has been achieved.

Tata?

You mean the same company that made the world's cheapest, smallest, production car?

And did such a poor job of it most Indians said "Nah Bruh, we'll just keep riding our motorcycles 6-at-a-time"?

I'm SHOCKED.

SHOCKED! *

The Nano failed not because there was anything wrong with it by comparison to other Indian products, but because it literally defined the bottom of the car market. Indians are more status conscious than any human, and anyone who is so flush with cash that he can buy a new car for barely less than the Indian annual average salary is more status conscious than most Indians. So he will not buy the new Tata, he will buy the more 'upmarket' slightly used Suzuki Swift clonse (made based on a model that stopped being made in Japan twenty years ago) regardless of reliability, economy, safety etc.

 

[Three-letter Agency]

Never trust an Indian. Out of the 100s I've met they're the worst people ever. Biggest frauds and liars. Any Indian who says he's a tech expert 99% of the time cheated through college or university and has the computer intelligence of your average 14 year old white boy. I fucking hate Indians so much. They should never make it further in the world than being an Uber driver.

Give me hats if you want. I'm still pissed Canada is taking millions of them in this year I'm the largest immigration move canada has ever made all because people aren't having babies anymore. So instead of the government encouraging our own population to get it on; let's throw millions of pajeets into the country which has a housing crisis and identity crisis and language problem cause half the people here don't speak English. What could possibly go wrong. I hate my country but Indians are the absolute worst.

Good news for you, there are some instances of Indians actually going back because they'd rather not pay $2.5k per month to live in a hovel in Toronto with 6 other people. At least the weather's better and their designated shitting streets don't have homeless drug addicts.

 

[Dizzydent]

Good news for you, there are some instances of Indians actually going back because they'd rather not pay $2.5k per month to live in a hovel in Toronto with 6 other people. At least the weather's better and their designated shitting streets don't have homeless drug addicts.

Lol reminds me of my college days when I had to live in Toronto and the only place I could afford was with 11 other Indians and a black guy. Literally 13 of us crammed into a town house. The smells and noise and constant police visits. And like they wouldn't normally get in trouble with the police cause they all change their names to whatever they want so it'll be like "sorry I don't know a Majinder." And turns out Majinder lives upstairs but tells everyone his name is David, and if that name gets in trouble they change it again. They walk around like the rules don't effect them. And their cleanliness and hygiene. The amount of hours I've spent cleaning up after filthy Indians is insane.

Not to mention the scammers who try to steal yours and everyone in your families life savings. I don't care if I'm calling a reputable company or they're calling me I'll never give any of my details or send a penny to someone with an Indian accent. I will however keep them on the phone for as long as possible to fuck with them.

 

[quaawaa]

Just a reminder that China was completely unable to build iPhones until Tim Cook invested a third of a trillion dollars into building factories for them:

Apple CEO Tim Cook signed a secret five-year agreement with China worth an estimated $275 billion in 2016 as the tech giant worked to ease regulatory pressure in the key market, according to a report Tuesday.

The agreement included a commitment from Apple to help boost China’s economy through investments and other business initiatives, The Information reported, citing interviews and internal documents. At the time, officials in Beijing purportedly felt Apple was not doing enough to aid the country’s economic development.

The deal was completed as Apple faced a potential regulatory crackdown that could have harmed its business in China, including key services such as Apple Pay and iCloud. Cook was personally involved in negotiations and made several trips to China to lobby government officials on Apple’s behalf.

Apple received legal exemptions from regulatory action. In exchange, Apple agreed to a host of investments, including worker training, commitments to help Chinese manufacturers develop "the most advanced manufacturing technologies" and use Chinese-made components and other concessions meant to appease local authorities.

Source (Archive)

O’Marah began to learn that Apple was not really “outsourcing” production to China, as commonly understood. Instead, he realised that Apple was starting to build up a supply and manufacturing operation of such complexity, depth and cost that the company’s fortunes have become tied to China in a way that cannot easily be unwound.

Over the past decade and a half, Apple has been sending its top product designers and manufacturing design engineers to China, embedding them into suppliers’ facilities for months at a time.

These Apple employees have played integral roles co-designing new production processes, overseeing the minutiae of manufacturing until things were up and running, and keeping close tabs on suppliers to ensure compliance.

Apple has also spent billions of dollars on custom machinery to build its devices, developing niche expertise that its rivals did not even know about, let alone compete with.

It has transformed the company and the country. “All the tech competence China has now is not the product of Chinese tech leadership drawing in Apple,” O’Marah says. “It’s the product of Apple going in there and building the tech competence.”

It also invested heavily in the production process to build moats around its manufacturing innovations, while rivals were just giving supplier spec sheets and saying: “build this.”

“[Apple] were doing more capital equipment buying than anybody I could see in the world, and yet they were not owning it themselves — they were putting it in other people’s plants,” O’Marah says.

As iPhone production ramped up, the value of Apple’s “long-lived assets” in China — primarily equipment it uses in the production of devices — soared from $370mn in 2009 to $7.3bn in 2012.

Source (Archive)

Keep that in mind whenever you hear them say that they can’t manufacture in the US. It is a fact that prior to Apple’s massive investment, China could not build the iPhone. Apple easily could have made that investment in the US, but they chose not to, because China threatened to ban the phone if it wasn’t made there.

Also, the only reason why they’re manufacturing in India is because Modi enacted massive tariffs on foreign made phones. When Trump proposed something similar, Cook and his media allies called him a fascist who doesn’t believe in free markets, but when India and China do the exact same thing, they bend over and comply.

 

[Justa Grata Honoria]

Repeat after me you pay peanuts you get monkeys.

On a serious note if this their first try it will like china 2 decades ago everything they made was total crap but now they make everything.

 

[The Luigi Player]

We, sirs and mams, are surprised by this fact

 

[WelperHelper99]

I told you Indian steel is a joke, now I am supposed to believe they can make a phone? I'll be surprised if their ICBM's actually work at this point.

 

[TowinKarz]

The Nano failed not because there was anything wrong with it by comparison to other Indian products, but because it literally defined the bottom of the car market. Indians are more status conscious than any human, and anyone who is so flush with cash that he can buy a new car for barely less than the Indian annual average salary is more status conscious than most Indians. So he will not buy the new Tata, he will buy the more 'upmarket' slightly used Suzuki Swift clonse (made based on a model that stopped being made in Japan twenty years ago) regardless of reliability, economy, safety etc.

All true, and remember that next time someone complains about consoomerism....... the US is hardly the population where it's most malignant.

People here will "stoop" to driving a Prius when doing a vehicular virtue signal - Indians would say "Electric Mercedes or go home!"

 

[Reverend]

Never trust an Indian. Out of the 100s I've met they're the worst people ever. Biggest frauds and liars. Any Indian who says he's a tech expert 99% of the time cheated through college or university and has the computer intelligence of your average 14 year old white boy. I fucking hate Indians so much. They should never make it further in the world than being an Uber driver.

Give me hats if you want. I'm still pissed Canada is taking millions of them in this year I'm the largest immigration move canada has ever made all because people aren't having babies anymore. So instead of the government encouraging our own population to get it on; let's throw millions of pajeets into the country which has a housing crisis and identity crisis and language problem cause half the people here don't speak English. What could possibly go wrong. I hate my country but Indians are the absolute worst.

I see you've never been to Trindad which took Indian culture (they were brought over by Brits) and mixed it with Jamacian Quality Work Ethic. Enjoy the Bake n'Shark, best whitefish you'll ever eat.

 

[Point and Laugh]

Under no circumstances is there any thought to investing those billions into US manufacturing. How much money has Apple already wasted trying to get cheap manufacturing?

Anything to avoid paying a living wage to an American. Hell even that isn’t a requirement to manufacture here. What’s worse is Apple should be aware of what a farce the Indian tech workforce is.

Sure there’s great engineers and whatnot but they move to the US. Dealing with India based contractors is a nightmare and you can always count on the first second and third delivery being complete shit that an American has to turn around and fix.

But sure keep dumping money into these third world black holes where most of it goes to some assholes kids who think buying a lambo is a flex on the neighbors living in shacks and shitting in the street.

 

[The handsome tard]

Sometimes I wonder how India can exist in the modern times without falling apart.

 

[Shroom King]

As someone who has had the pleasure of dealing with customers on a global scale, Indians are the worst. Worse than the Chinese, worse than the Greeks.

Every single time it goes like this:

Indian: HELP! THE EQUIPMENT IS NOT WORKING AS YOUR COMPANY TOLD US IT IS SUPPOSED TO, PLEASE SAVE US, MR. SHROOM KING! WE ALSO EXPECT THIS TO BE COVERED UNDER WARRANTY.

Me: We have a 6 month old quotation is our system for all the parts you need to fix your system, and we did not receive a reply.

Indian: Please give us a quotation for the necessary parts ASAP and your best possible discount.

Me: *Redoes the exact same quotation but updates the price*

*six more months pass*

*open inbox*

*See an email with subject line TOP URGENT! TOTAL SYSTEM FAILURE!*

*phone call 2 minutes later*

Indian: We need your technician at our site as soon as possible, NOTHING IS WORKING! THIS IS TOP URGENT!

EVERY

FUCKING

TIME

 

[WelperHelper99]

Under no circumstances is there any thought to investing those billions into US manufacturing. How much money has Apple already wasted trying to get cheap manufacturing?

Anything to avoid paying a living wage to an American. Hell even that isn’t a requirement to manufacture here. What’s worse is Apple should be aware of what a farce the Indian tech workforce is.

Sure there’s great engineers and whatnot but they move to the US. Dealing with India based contractors is a nightmare and you can always count on the first second and third delivery being complete shit that an American has to turn around and fix.

But sure keep dumping money into these third world black holes where most of it goes to some assholes kids who think buying a lambo is a flex on the neighbors living in shacks and shitting in the street.

There are plenty of people here that would do the work, just they refuse to be treated like shit. With how high they price a single crappy phone, there's no reason you couldn't pay more for honest labor. But that means less money, less consooming, and possibly *gasp* longer production times due to not treating people like slaves.