Beyond your field of vision: the void

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Can you imagine how a blind person since birth regards "sight" as? There are videos out there, like from The Tommy Edison Experience that give some insight to it. However it can boil down to the person not being able to fully conceive what is like to have access to this sense.

In a similar way, you yourself might not be able to grasp how it would be not having sight, as even when you close your eyes, you can still see "black". There are cases when we could say that you can, like when falling asleep or losing consciousness, but at that point you're not consciously trying to "not see" something.

There is an approximation to that feeling that you have access to, and you're free to describe it on here.

That is what's beyond your field of vision (or far peripheral vision). When looking straight forward, seems like for both eyes combined, horizontally, humans have around 200-220 degrees to work with, and within that field, you have several classifications for each area, but what about what lies beyond?

So for example, this would roughly be what you're seeing now:
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What's beyond that frontier? How would you describe it? Is this the feeling of not feeling? And how interesting would be to have complete 360º of vision, horizontally and vertically at the same time?
 
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I remember Alan Watts compared death (as in non-existence) to what you see behind your eyes.

When I was a kid I used to sit by the TV wondering what the space between the movie frames looked like. I even tried to pause VHS movies very quickly to catch it.

To this day that is my personal visualisation of what can't be visualised.
 
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Only 2° of vision is correctly focused on the retina. So your eyes have to scan around to perceive detail. Most of your FOV is useless and merely for motion sensing moving objects.
 
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I've never seen black with closed eyes, only octarine.
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Scholar of magic Pete Carroll says he imagines Octarine to be “a particular shade of electric pinkish-purple,” a common color in optical illusions.
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The tranny color from outer space.

To OP: neat meme picrel. Otherwise, the sense of vision is most likely innate. Blind people still conceptualize a 3D space in which they move - even the ones who are blind since birth. You can google it, people already kinda, sorta tested for all that. "Seeing" is innate.
It's not learned at all, opposed to the way in which you acquire speech.
Seeing with eyes just means I can sense farther ahead, whereas a blind person is restricted to just an arms length and whatever time it takes to touch everything in proximity - seeing with eyes is making your predictions more acute, you can dodge things way more effectively for example.
On the other hand, there are those bat-like blind people who makes these click sounds... wild shit.
I would just feel helpless, if I was blind. And as a seeing person, I would describe and highlight the pleasures of being able to scan my environments without touching things directly or at least needing to hear them. Tho, I must say that I'm kinda envious of those rare blind people with the mentioned click radar and otherwise insanely discriminating hearing sense. But optimally, you'd want those heightened Bat-Senses in addition to good old eyesight and not as a trade for it.
What I'm trying to say is: Being blind probably just sucks but it's not a totally unfathomable experience.
Conversely, blind people can absolutely conceptualize the idea of seeing. Even the assigned blind at birth ones.
I'm not an "objectivist" *shudder* but not everything is a "uhmagawd, I couldn't even start to imagine what it's like"-sitch either.
Beeing blind sucks, it makes you less able and blind people know that too - they just "see" with their hands and ears.
They very likely don't live a totally weird, far removed human® experience, just a very shitty one.
 
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I've seen some films where they show an eagle eye view of the woods and it's beautiful but at the same time strange and alien. I tried to imagine being a bird that spends a lot of time in the sky. And it's something I can't wrap my head around. Because the perception is so strange. Migrating geese spend hours up there just seeing the tops of trees and rivers bending like they do on a map. Sure you can get in a plane or hot air balloon and see something similar. But it's not the same. Because you didn't evolve to fly in order to survive.

Birds and insects see colors we can't. Cats detect tiny movements we can't and instinctively spring to action. Dogs hear and smell things we can't even detect.

I can't imagine being blind from birth because I know what sight is. Just like I can't imagine not existing. Because I exist. So if death is absolute nothingness because you as an existence is permanantly gone then it's completely beyond our ability ti imagine just not existing in some form. But I do believe that things may not be as they seem and we do indeed have existence outside of this life.
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I think your brain is different from your soul. They work together to create a human experience. Maybe we're just piloting a meat suit from another plane of existence. As to why? Maybe we can't really understand the answer while we are in human form. If we did then there'd be no reason for us to experience life the way we do. If you think about it too much it becomes weird and confusing. Best to just enjoy the ride as much as you can while it lasts.
 
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As to why? Maybe we can't really understand the answer while we are in human form.
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Or maybe we have to be in human form first (and probably multiple times) in order to evolve towards the higher, complete form. This life is the school of existence.
 
Is the fact that you're wearing tranny socks in this supposed to be some kind of 1488D deep space gay op or are you just that discord-brained?
 
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