Culture Brandon Sanderson Affirms Script Writers Pitch IP Projects To Use The IP As A Skinsuit For Their Own Story

Brandon Sanderson, the author of the Mistborn series, affirmed that Hollywood scriptwriters intentionally pitch IP projects so they can use them as skinsuits to tell their own stories.

In a post to the LoTR Memes subreddit in October, Sanderson shared an anecdote about how one of his lesser known stories Emperor’s Soul was options for a Hollywood project.

After explaining how the writer for the project was the one who pitched it and eventually convinced the studio to option the rights, Sanderson revealed that when he eventually got his hands on the script it was nothing like his novel and described it as “one of the most bizarre experiences of my life.”

“The character names were, largely, the same, though nothing that happened to them was remotely similar to the story. Emperor's Soul is a small-scale character drama that takes place largely in one room, with discussions of the nature of art between two characters who approach the idea differently,” Sanderson shared. “The screenplay detailed an expansive fantasy epic with a new love interest for the main character (a pirate captain.) They globe-trotted, they fought monsters, they explored a world largely unrelated to mine, save for a few words here and there.”

Next, Sanderson explained why the script was so different from his novel, which it was supposed to be adapting, “Hollywood doesn't buy spec scripts (original ideas) from screenwriters very often, and they NEVER buy spec scripts that are epic fantasy. Those are too big, too expensive, and too daunting: they are the sorts of stories where the producers and executives need the proof of an established book series to justify the production.”

“So this writer never had a chance to tell his own epic fantasy story, though he wanted to. Instead, he found a popularish story that nobody had snatched up, and used it as a means to tell the story he'd always wanted to tell, because he'd never otherwise have a chance of getting it made,” he shared.

Sanderson then concluded that this was not a one-time deal, but is a major problem within Hollywood and is one of the many issues affecting the so-called adaptations that are currently being made. “I'm convinced this is part of the issue with some of these adaptations; screenwriters and directors are creative, and want to tell their own stories, but it's almost impossible to get those made in things like the fantasy genre unless you're a huge established name like Cameron.”

“I'm not saying they all do this deliberately, as that screenwriter did for my work, but I think it's an unconscious influence,” he continued. “They want to tell their stories, and this is the allowed method, so when given the chance at freedom they go off the rails, and the execs don't know the genre or property well enough to understand why this can lead to disaster.”

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Sanderson is not the only one to point this out. In March 2023, the Dungeon & Dragons: Honor Among Thieves directors John Francis Daley and Jonathan Goldstein admitted to this practice while promoting their film.

The duo were asked by Variety, “To be able to do the kind of storytelling at the level you want to do it, do you feel you have to find a way into a franchise versus writing an original story?”

Goldstein replied, “Using existing IP certainly greases the wheels. Any meeting we have with a studio head starts with, “Here’s four things we own — got any interest?” To some extent, I think we use intellectual property as a bit of a costume to get ourselves in the door. We’re still going to make the movie that we want to make. It just makes it all a bit easier to get it going if it has something that people are very familiar with.”

The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power showrunners similarly noted they were planning to write the book that Tolkien never wrote despite the fact the show is set in the Second Age and Tolkien wrote The Silmarillion, a whole book that his son Christopher published that details the major events of the First Age and the Second Age.

Nevertheless Rings of Power showrunner Patrick McKay told Vanity Fair that the driving question for the show was: “Can we come up with the novel Tolkien never wrote and do it as the mega-event series that could only happen now?”

What do you make of Sanderson’s anecdote and his speculation that this leads to a number of problems with current Hollywood adaptations?


 
The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power showrunners similarly noted they were planning to write the book that Tolkien never wrote despite the fact the show is set in the Second Age and Tolkien wrote The Silmarillion, a whole book that his son Christopher published that details the major events of the First Age and the Second Age.

Nevertheless Rings of Power showrunner Patrick McKay told Vanity Fair that the driving question for the show was: “Can we come up with the novel Tolkien never wrote and do it as the mega-event series that could only happen now?”
You cannot possibly imagine how fucking mad this makes me.
 
These days, every existing successful creative IP becomes a thinly-stretched condom over the throbbing girldick of woke progressive insanity. Nigger hobbits, elves and dwarves, female Witchers and Custodes, gay space marines, trans mech pilots, black female 007’s, the list goes on. So much for the ‘creativity’ of the left.
 
There is surely a level of this where people don't want to adapt a story, they want to tell their own story but they don't have a story worthy to tell. Pitching an IP gives the illusion of a worth while story. They just take a bunch of stuff from the IP and then don't know what the fuck to do with it. Don't adapt and write absolute shit.
 
“So this writer never had a chance to tell his own epic fantasy story, though he wanted to. Instead, he found a popularish story that nobody had snatched up, and used it as a means to tell the story he'd always wanted to tell, because he'd never otherwise have a chance of getting it made,” he shared.
Its fanfiction, but its not even honest fanfiction.
 
“The character names were, largely, the same, though nothing that happened to them was remotely similar to the story. Emperor's Soul is a small-scale character drama that takes place largely in one room, with discussions of the nature of art between two characters who approach the idea differently,” Sanderson shared. “The screenplay detailed an expansive fantasy epic with a new love interest for the main character (a pirate captain.) They globe-trotted, they fought monsters, they explored a world largely unrelated to mine, save for a few words here and there.”
It sounds like someone wrote a much better story than you did.
 
This happens in long-running video games, too. How many MMOs can you name that got a new lead writer and then immediately transitioned into fanfiction?
What MMO has ever had a shred of worthwhile story? It would take some hard evidence to convince me the answer is anything other than "none".
 
The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power showrunners similarly noted they were planning to write the book that Tolkien never wrote despite the fact the show is set in the Second Age and Tolkien wrote The Silmarillion, a whole book that his son Christopher published that details the major events of the First Age and the Second Age.
To be completely fair, and I'm not praising them as writers, what I think they're being told to paper over (cause their press was all just scripted) was they were going to write an original story anyway, but they don't have the rights to the Silmarillion, which effectively bars them from all three ages of the world. So isolated events and characters from the Silmarillion are truncated and a few of Tolkien's notes are forcefully jammed very awkwardly on top of the actual story they wanted to write.

Given that the show was astroturfed with Bezos money with loads of mandates, I can imagine that they were forced to add recognisable and pivotal events in Middle-earth in an otherwise very different story. For example, 'Halbrand' (Sauron)'s entire set of history, motives and behaviour completely changes between the two seasons. In his recognisable armour he leads an army of orcs who fear his presence in the opening, yet season 2, at a later age, he begins it as some guy, trying and failing to convince orcs of anything then gets stabbed. which leads me to think Halbrand was written as a completely different character, but were mandated to add Sauron because that's what people recognise, and his made the most sense. It feels like his first appearance was just intended to be a cool cameo.
 
You can see it even in the "good" hollywood movies. Joker was only a comic book film because the guy who made it knew he wouldn't have gotten an art film off the ground in the modern climate without disguising it as capeshit.
Ironically though, the only reason Joker was so good is because it was a new take on a well-known comic book villain; take the Joker out of Joker and you just have a crummy knockoff of Taxi Driver and The King of Comedy. Joaquin Phoenix still probably would've carried the hell out of it, Batman tie-in or no.
You could also have eyes, ears or half a brain to "confirm" the obvious.
It's still nice to have confirmation from the "inside". It makes it feel less like you're yelling at a wall.
 
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Going to powerlevel a little bit.

Years ago... In the comic book industry the term "Ash Can" referred to submission proposals that were not accepted. They were tossed in the trash can where they dumped their cigarette ash trays as well. Hence the term "Ash Can".

Alledgely those failed proposals were taken by people who needed ideas and/or to fucking lazy to create things.... Make minor changes and now you have something that could be used. A lot of people lost their ideas to this method.

This is no different than what is happening today except more so.

There is a lot I want to say about my experiences in sectors in the entertainment industry. But I can't as I have to protect my IP's from those people that are still around.

It is going to cost me a shit load of money hiring a top teir litery agent. But at least I'll have my IP intact.
 
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