- Joined
- Jan 6, 2021
translation: "You deserve to die because you chose to try and become a developed western country instead of wallowing in poverty and corruption in Russia's dying post-soviet sphere of influence, all you needed to do was be the slave of a country with a lower GDP per capita than Trinidad and your family wouldn't be getting raped and murdered by mongol hordes. How dare you try to be prosperous and independent from in any way shape or form!"No, I am not going to consider that because Ukranians desperately want to join the EU, get themselves into debt slavery to the EU technocrats and have the EU banksters loot their resources instead of Putin, which I guess they think is somehow more preferable. I'd respect Ukranians more if they wanted to be an autonomous, sovereign country going their own way, but they don't. They just want to be whores to the EU banksters to get loans they will never be able to pay off, just like all those other countries that foolishly whored themselves to the EU in exchange for unsustainable loans. It's as if Ukranians never noticed how the EU banksters used debt as an excuse to go in and plunder Italy, Spain, Ireland, Greece, Portugal just a decade ago. Besides, how many Ukranians fled to their beloved EU during the war?
If you're in Russia's sphere of influence being in the EU is a drastic improvement no matter how you cut it, and furthermore the whole reason they wanted to be integrated with the EU and NATO is because they wanted the protection against what Russia is literally doing to them as we speak. The only reason Russia went to war with them is because they know that Ukraine is completely independent as we speak and without any sort of stronger alliance to speak for them they're left basically defenseless against Russian aggression.
You're implying refugees leaving a nation that is actively at war is anything new when this is true for almost any warzone, dictatorship, or other form of instability in the past 100-150 years. Yeah news flash most people don't like to live under constant threat so they'll leave if that's the reality in the place they currently live. BTW if you wanna talk about how people don't love their nation if they leave it, what's with all these Russian oligarchs sending their kids to live and study in western countries instead of glorious and beautiful Russia?Besides, how many Ukranians fled to their beloved EU during the war? That's how badly Ukranians want to protect their country, that they are just using the war as a convenient excuse to do what they always wanted so badly: move to the EU and become "European" (a debt slave).
Protip: anyone who calls themselves "anti imperialist" is not actually anti imperialist at all, they're just only against imperialism when the west does it, when an eastern country (say china, russia, iran, insert third world shithole here) does it they either outright support it or will fall over themselves doing whataboutism and making up q-tier excuses for why the regimes they dicksuck actually aren't being imperialist. These people are essentially tankies hiding behind a thin veneer of optics, the only principle they actually hold is east good west bad. These people live, shit, and breathe double standards when it comes to geopolitics and foreign policy.I respect the patriotic Ukranians who stayed behind and fought because they had no choice but to defend their turf from that they consider to be an invader, but let's not kid ourselves and ignore the blatant opportunism that is part and parcel of any war.