Mentioned Lindsay Ellis.
Missed FD Signifier: US, black
Missed Dan Olson: Canada, white
Correction - The Serfs: Canada, white
Xanderhal has 87k subs, Hunter Avallone has 559k subs, The Serfs have 66k subs, Mike from PA averages 2100 Twitch viewers.
I don't think this substantively changes the point I was trying to make.
Xanderhal and Avallone dont get views after their respective controversies, theyre just well known name wise. Xanderhal is so small that he has to raid Vaushs chat and post his tweets in chat for engagement. Serfs also get shit views from what I remember, Lance often gets butthurt about it quite a bit. Theres also people like KatBlaque, Foreign Man in Foreign Land, Mina Le, Cheyenne Lin, Accented Cinema, Jacob Geller, whole lot of others who arent exclusively white. The top players are white sure but its not all white. I made a breadtuber list post a long time ago, you can check that.
ThoughtSlime is a retard, he operates on retarded logic. He can’t hate Jews, because they are a historically oppressed minority. Yet there is a conundrum with Israel and Palestine as there are two oppressed minorities fighting each other. He has to manufacture a series of reasons as to why he can hate a country full of Jewish people.
Copes such as Israel being a colonial proxy of the American Empire, or Zionists being a majority non-Jewish group because of Christian support. Ways to make the conflict black and white, rather than gray.
Just calling guys like ThoughtSlime antisemitic downplays the incoherent ideology he believes in.
ThoughtSlime is a retard, he operates on retarded logic. He can’t hate Jews, because they are a historically oppressed minority. Yet there is a conundrum with Israel and Palestine as there are two oppressed minorities fighting each other. He has to manufacture a series of reasons as to why he can hate a country full of Jewish people.
Copes such as Israel being a colonial proxy of the American Empire, or Zionists being a majority non-Jewish group because of Christian support. Ways to make the conflict black and white, rather than gray.
Just calling guys like ThoughtSlime antisemitic downplays the incoherent ideology he believes in.
Breadtube is so pretzeled by their mental gymnastics they're comparing "Zionists" to white supremacists.
Just say you hate Jews, leftoids, stop pussyfooting around with the evasive, closeted-Aryan supremacist language and just be the Nazis you're pretending to not be.
I don’t think he hates Jews. He’d cheer on any anti-Zionist Jew. He just has to turn himself into a pretzel to ignore the historical circumstances of the creation of Israel, that state’s connection to Jews, and how he can side with one minority over another minority. He also has to be careful with his language as the vitriol and contempt used for any of his other opponents could come across as something you’d see on the Daily Stormer.
No matter how you feel about Israel compared to Palestine, I still think it's fucking hilarious to accuse Thought Slime of nazism because he's the type of person who grasps at straws to accuse anyone he doesn't like of being a nazi.
For his critics to have even more ammo to use against HIM in accusing him of being a nazi is just delicious.
Even if you ignore the fact that the Palestinians give the nazi Germans a run for their money in terms of anti-semitism and pure barbarism, to the point that not even other arabs want much to do with them.
Breadtube is dead and In Praise of Shadows killed it. Here we have coverage of the In Praise of Shadows VS Wendigoon nontroversy in which a normie expresses bafflement at the straw grasping and pedo defending on part of a leftoid lunatic attempting a smear campaign for viewership and petty spite.
IPoS' four hour long diatribe ticks every box on the Breadtuber cliche checklist, and his delivery of that checklist is so distilled and over the top that normies are taking notice of the insanity being espoused and clowning on it.
It's very serendipitous that Wendigoon keeps his nose clean because it makes him unassailable as a target for these losers, but IPoS is desperate enough for Youtube shekels that he'll try anyway.
Hopefully this will start the process of Breadtube's decline so it can join the Atheist, Skeptic and Anti-SJW movements of Youtube in the annals of irrelevant faggots, and I sincerely hope nothing of equal or greater faggotry comes to take its place.
Can you believe Suris is upset about people getting mad over a kid's game? It's pretty wild that he's so worked up about people being upset over Paper Mario of all things.
The rest of IPOS’s video is a complete distillation of breadtubers. Ranting about capitalism and how it prevents people from doing what is morally right (which is just leftist politics, which goes without saying). Claims that all horror media belongs to the marginalized and that horror represents left leaning themes. He goes so far as to claim horror authors such as Bram Stoker, Mary Shelley, and HP Lovecraft were queer.
I have heard rumor that Shelley was bisexual, but I have no idea where the claims about Stoker and Lovecraft come from.
There’s ranting about AI and how IPOS is so sorry that he used AI art for fun once.
Also, during the Wendigoon segment, IPOS is trying to condemn Donut Operator for being enthusiastic about the police killing a pedo. IPOS is using it lambast Wendigoon as being pro-state (fascist) but it comes off as being very “Vaush-esque”.
The video was supposed to be about conservative horror movies. It was anything but that.
Even if you ignore the fact that the Palestinians give the nazi Germans a run for their money in terms of anti-semitism and pure barbarism, to the point that not even other arabs want much to do with them.
Speaking of Palestine and Israel. Shit that happens in the American comic book industry feels like a foreshadowing of what breadtube is today. Remind this that happened before 2016. Progressives at DC Comics intentionally bullied Jewish writer Bill Willingham from the American comic book industry because he refused to back down Fables/A Wolf among us having openly pro-Israel and anti-abortion themes. Funny how all comics are political faggots silent when fables creators are harassed for being pro-life. With that said, I can agree the fable town being a metaphor for Palestine makes more sense than Israel. Fables still the most popular original IP from Vertigo with no DC comic connections. Breadtube probably hate pro-life Jews more than blacks that vote Republican or even black cops.
Surprised nobody's brought up iPOS's sorry excuse for a Return to Oz review. If you want a good idea of how much of a massive walking vagina he is, this is the video for you.
He spends about ten minutes sperging out about how the Nome King taking back the gems used to make the Emerald City is an allegory for socialists getting what TEH EBIL CAPITALISTS stole from them. It's absolutely insufferable. Plus he totally just did a quick google search for the rest of the Oz books because his lack of knowledge about the series is abysmal.
Breadtube is dead and In Praise of Shadows killed it. Here we have coverage of the In Praise of Shadows VS Wendigoon nontroversy in which a normie expresses bafflement at the straw grasping and pedo defending on part of a leftoid lunatic attempting a smear campaign for viewership and petty spite.
IPoS' four hour long diatribe ticks every box on the Breadtuber cliche checklist, and his delivery of that checklist is so distilled and over the top that normies are taking notice of the insanity being espoused and clowning on it.
It's very serendipitous that Wendigoon keeps his nose clean because it makes him unassailable as a target for these losers, but IPoS is desperate enough for Youtube shekels that he'll try anyway.
Hopefully this will start the process of Breadtube's decline so it can join the Atheist, Skeptic and Anti-SJW movements of Youtube in the annals of irrelevant faggots, and I sincerely hope nothing of equal or greater faggotry comes to take its place.
Now, I don't really care about BreadTube, I am only here because I like watching wendiGOONER content and this is the only place talking about the shit that is going down, that being said: What are your predictions on what's gonna happen to IPoS? Will he survive this or he's going to be permanently gone?
He's a normie in the sense that he doesn't possess the rhetorical devices that a right winger or lefty Youtuber would have and mostly speaks with a pedestrian vernacular. That tells me he's not super deep into online politics.
Surprised nobody's brought up iPOS's sorry excuse for a Return to Oz review. If you want a good idea of how much of a massive walking vagina he is, this is the video for you.
He spends about ten minutes sperging out about how the Nome King taking back the gems used to make the Emerald City is an allegory for socialists getting what TEH EBIL CAPITALISTS stole from them. It's absolutely insufferable. Plus he totally just did a quick google search for the rest of the Oz books because his lack of knowledge about the series is abysmal.
I could easily make the equally dumb argument that the Gnome King is a based capitalist MAGA redpiller taking back stolen property, seeing as how he's a wealthy landowner (a king) with an army of subordinates (serfs). It's equally retarded as what he said because he's trying to fit a square peg in a round hole, which is always the case with all these film analyses.
It's amazing there's so many of these weirdos who insist on filtering every film ever made through the lens of Marxist rhetoric and can't bring themselves to appreciate the content without shoehorning Leftoid rhetoric into it, as if the film in question doesn't already have its own identity and the people who made it believe all the same things they do.
You couldn't ask for more in-the-box thinking, and the fact they have such in-the-box thinking says they could never hope to have their dumb revolutionary fantasy come to life because they possess no theory of mind that would enable them to outwit an enemy, they can't imagine a perspective or idea outside their own unless it's one of a deranged monster, which is ironic because they all regard themselves as being film literate.
It's amazing there's so many of these weirdos who insist on filtering every film ever made through the lens of Marxist rhetoric and can't bring themselves to appreciate the content without shoehorning Leftoid rhetoric into it, as if the film in question doesn't already have its own identity and the people who made it believe all the same things they do.
Well that's the consequences of believing all art and everything is political. There's a reason why when socialism or communism takes control of a nation that all forms of art and expression are heavily suppressed. It still floors me that leftists believe that somehow their shitty commentary channel and art endeavors wouldn't be purged if they managed to actually get what they wanted.
Man, if I had any sort of online platform, I'd wait for this shitstorm to die down, and then make my own "WENDIGOON: EXPOSED/CANCELLED" video or whatever, but it would just be clickbait, and I rag on him for being a Baptist and get autistic about holy communion in the way that only a Lutheran can for however many minutes.
Featured on May 28, 2024 by Burning Fanatic: Wendigoon and friends have been the recent targets of a vindictive BreadTuber's skitzo hitpiece. It failed miserably.
Note: I've previously highlighted this story in the Community Happenings thread if you're looking for an initial summary of the drama. This post and some of the replies may get spun off into a seperate thread if there's enough interest. Otherwise, this post will act as a more concise overview of what's happened leading up to the hitpiece video's creation, and what the response has been like since.
Spoiler: If you try to view the current video, it now has this entire chapter about Wendigoon completely removed
Zane, who runs the YouTube channel "In Praise of Shadows", covers various horror films and franchises. He's not too different from many of the other channels that review, discuss, and analyze all kinds of horror-based media. That was up until his infamous video covering the Hills Have Eyes (THHE) franchise a couple years prior. Zane attributes this video as being the catalyst that not only harmed his career and reputation as an online content creator, but also lead to the decline of his mental health due to countless alt-right trolls leaving slurs and other nasty, bigoted messages in his replies.
Now you may wonder, why did this video garner so much backlash in the first place? Well, our media savvy expert decided to propose in his video that the film's white, upper-middle-class family, who are openly racist and own a German shepherd, represent the American Imperial Machine, while the inbred, murderous, rapist cannibals are a stand in for marginalized groups, such as Native Americans, queer folks and poor people.
Unsurprisingly, longtime viewers of the channel felt very put off by this rather colorful interpretation of cannibalistic inbreds who rape and murder civilians being somewhat similar, at least on a sympathetic level, to the marginalized groups facing systemic plights and oppression. Some would simply unsubscribe, while others would leave comments either expressing their dissatisfaction with the video or some kind of nasty message. This seemingly goes on for two years, eventually leading to the release of a new video called, "Bad Conservative Horror Movies."
The video was taken down for damage control, so here's someone's reupload
Seriously putting aside any political biases for a moment, the video on its own is downright atrocious. Had this merely focused on the usual low hanging fruit, such as the lame films and shows produced by PragerU or the Daily Wire, normal people wouldn't have cared. However, due to the past few years of internalizing all the hate comments and his channel underperforming, Zane decides to make this longwinded video incredibly personal, as its filled to the brim with pure bitterness and spite. Not only does he whine about the continued backlash and repercussions he's dealt with from his controversial analysis of THHE, but he goes as far as to blame Wendigoon of all people for being responsible for the continued harassment.
Before even getting into the skitzo arguments made against Wendigoon and his associates, here's some of the ridiculous points made in the prior sections leading up to it:
Nitpicks about a horror convention he went to being terrible, especially for having Kevin Spacey (who starred in the film Seven) as one of the major guests to attend.
Laments about how THHE video harmed him financially, as he now can barely rake in ad revenue on his video as a full time content creator.
He whines about receiving around $500 one month last year in YouTube ad revenue (not including roughly 1k a month in Patreon income).
He complains about making videos covering horror franchises he’s not interested in just to pay the bills, all while also refusing to take any sponsors.
He admits to being late on his rent payments.
Focuses on arguing about more identity politic messages and allegories that can be found in other Wes Craven films.
Literally reads off dozens of hate comments complaining about his THHE analysis.
Constantly tries to laugh off the comments as if he's above it all, despite admitting that they've harmed his mental health over the past couple years.
This goes on for a while. It's not just some cherry picked examples, he really reads through as many examples as he could find to point out how much backlash he got from his initial video.
Rest of the video focuses on some of the more recent controversies taking place with both old and modern films, such as Late Night with the Devil getting criticized for using AI images in its film, or how an actress of the rebooted Scream franchise got removed for being pro-Palestine.
Rather than go through them all, instead imagine dozens of these comments directed at Zane. Congrats, you've just saved yourself 20-30 minutes of a grown man literally coping and seething about mean Internet comments.
Zane then dedicated over half an hour of his video to purely hating on Wendigoon and blatantly calling him alt-right. So many of the criticisms and claims made are done out of jealousy and utter resentment, such as Zane outright whining about Wendigoon being born into a wealthy family (although later losing this wealth due to his grandfather getting caught for having ties to organized crime), whereas he grew up poor. Therefore, as a rich guy, he lacks perspective when it comes to analyzing and critiquing (horror) media. Or how all white people who live in a given region of the country are inherently racist, and that guys like Wendigoon should explicitly not be allowed to show his face in public.
There's also the absurd claim put forth that because Wendigoon previously used "Boogaloo Boy" for a username many years ago as a teenager and that he wears Hawaiian shirts, this still makes him directly tied to the rise of the far right group "The Boogaloo Boys", who have been labeled as domestic terrorists. Despite Wendigoon outright acknowledging in the past, as shown in Zane's own video, that he wanted to not be a part of any extremist political group in an old response via Reddit, Zane believes that Wendigoon's distancing wasn't good enough.
Keep in mind that Zane says all of this while wearing a Hawaiian shirt as well throughout this whole section of his video. https://www.reddit.com/r/wendigoon/..._about_my_old_boogaloo_boy_persona/?rdt=48836
As for some of the more far reaching assertions he makes:
Amongst the people that Wendigoon is friends with and/or follows:
Followed (and therefore supports) Kyle Rittenhouse on Twitter.
Openly friends with Turkey Tom, who said the dreaded N-word.
Connected to Internet Historian, having starred in his video about the man trapped in a cave. IH once made a joke about his Birthday being the day Hitler was born.
Friends with very far-right leaning GunTuber Donut Operator, who profits off the footage of police killing people.
His immediate go-to example? A video where a literalpedophile gets executed by cops.
Collaborated with Nick Crowley, who profits off of True Crime content + mutually follows some of the aforementioned content creators.
Also collaborated with Plagued Moth, who also profits off of gore content.
Weirdly, Moth isn't even an example of an immoral, right-leaning creator, and is instead just a shitty guy who (rightfully) has a lolcow thread on the Farms.
Openly friends with Shoe0nHead, who 'masquerades as a leftist.'
Friends with Brandon Buckingham, who has "been accused of threatening someone with rape."
Bizarrely, this dipshit didn't take two second to look up the fact that this claim was made by Sneako of all people.
Friends with Oompaville, a "gun-obsessed content creator" who exploited Nickacado Avocado during his mental decline and made a video talking to Andrew Tate.
Yes, this loser somehow believes that Nick is mentally ill and collaborating with him in a video is a form of exploitation.
He also fails to acknowledge that the video with Tate was meant to mock him the entire time.
And Oompa doesn't even make gun content on his channel, he just owns them...?
Friends with Mutahar, who was against Tate being deplatformed and most recently, 'has shown a great deal of transphobia' (toward Keffals).
Positively interacted with RockSolid, a Twitter shitposter who likes edgy content.
Positively interacted with Disclose.tv, a "far-right propaganda website that uses hate speech, engages in Holocaust denialism, and platforms neo-nazis"
Appeared in content with a Mrgunsngear, a pro-second amendment figure.
Publicly friends with Brandon Herrera, another pro-gun figure running for Government.
Despite not finding any concrete evidence, insists that Herrera may have also had ties to the Boogaloo Boys simply because people online said so.
Wendigoon has stolen the (user)name from a mythical creature that is symbolic to indigenous people.
Believes Wendigoon's too white to have any blood ties or connection to Indigenous people, and goes on to discredit any of Wendigoon's personal stories to try and paint him as a racist colonizer.
Essentially argues that Wendigoon is culturally appropriating and directly profiting millions off the culture of Indigenous people
Wendigoon misgendered Chris-chan.
Wendigoon followed not only In Praise of Shadows, but another trans creator who focuses on horror/conspiracy content. Zane genuinely believed that Wendigoon doing this was a blatant form of intimidation.
And at this point, I tapped out. Fuck this miserable loser.
The now deleted section of the video going after Wendigoon can be found here, and a copy of it will hopefully be made available on this post at a later time.
Wendigoon, for his part, left a rather apologetic, yet level-headed response. He was mostly confused as for why this guy seemed to outright hate him so damn much as he doesn’t recall interacting with Zane. He was also rather upset at the misrepresentations made toward his friends being labeled as terrible people.
Speaking of, amongst the creators called out, Brandon Buckingham was arguably the most egregious. Brandon has a channel that sheds light on various communities and gives a voice to those who wish share their experiences, from the homeless living underground in Las Vegas to the folks who host yearly festivals celebrating Shrek. He's by no means a Saint, but to call him a GunTuber who threatens other people with rape, while also showing a picture of him with his Grandfather coming home from the hospital, was downright scumbag behavior. It especially doesn't help that Sneako, the very antithesis of the BreadTube community, was the one who made the allegation of Brandon being a sexpest. Brandon plans on covering Zane's atrocious hitpiece in a response video (now included at the bottom of the post).
In addition, Zane painted Mutahar as not only being an Andrew Tate sympathizer, but also transphobic for the ugly depiction of Keffals as his thumbnail. When called out on this, Zane doubled-down on Twitter, resulting in Muta putting out his own video.
Leave it to the fine folks on r/YouTubeDrama to view Muta's direct response to Zane calling him a bad person as an attempted harassment campaign.
Zane's initial attempt at damage control was to put out a long Twitter thread explaining why he made the video, with some corrections toward the parts he got wrong, like about how he went after Brandon based off false information. He deletes the entire section going after Wendigoon and friends, and proclaims that horror is about love. However, he still lamented that people were 'focusing on the fine details he got wrong', rather than looking at the bigger picture of how Wendigoon, his associates, and his fans are all incredibly problematic for the horror community as a whole.
Oh, and he also tried to play victim, such as claiming that Brandon's insult of 'calling him a low testosterone loser' is homophobic (which nobody even knew Zane was gay to begin with).
Unsurprisingly, people didn't like his weak attempt at a retraction while still doubling-down, which lead to him soon privatng his Twitter account. He has since uploaded a Patreon community update to once again insist that he was merely trying to do a good thing by calling out who he perceives as the toxic members of the horror community.
So in summation: This loser went out of his way to blame a popular creator for his own channel doing poorly, receiving mean comments over the years, and then outright calling said creator and his friends all far-right extremists. And somehow, he was genuinely surprised that people did not take too kindly to the video upon its release, despite seemingly knowing that he’d get at least some amount of slight pushback. I'd say it's one of the strangest self-inflicted implosions I've seen in a long time, yet this all happened around the same time as Rekeita’s arrest, so... Definitely not winning in that department.
Update 1: Immediately after posting this, the video has since been taken down. Crazy coincidental timing. Zane also put out an explanation via a YouTube community post:
Update 2: The coward removed the YouTube community post due to all the commenters rightfully criticizing him for how he went about it. He’s retreated to his hugbox Discord server, wondering if his online career is at all salvageable, and somehow is still asserting that everyone hating on the video is too stupid to properly address any of his skitzo criticisms:
Meanwhile, Brandon, Wendigoon and Oompaville have addressed the video directly:
And WillyMac has also put out a shorter, yet concise video summarizing Zane's bullshit criticisms and blatant attacks against everyone he dislikes:
Note: I've previously highlighted this story in the Community Happenings thread if you're looking for an initial summary of the drama. This post and some of the replies may get spun off into a seperate thread if there's another interest. Otherwise, this post will act as a more concise overview of what's happened leading up to the hitpiece video's creation, and what the response has been like since.
Oh, yeah. I have seen the videos on this guy's hit piece against Wendigoon and other youtube commentators. One part of the video peaked my interest. When he immediately assumes that because Wendigoon followed him, he must know about the harassment against him, he must be whistle signaling the harassment and it's all an intimidation tactic from Wendigoon. I wonder if there is history of schizophrenia in his family, because that's one of the most paranoic conclusions that I have ever seen from a dude following you on X.
