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I don't know where to post this on the site, but I feel like this is a topic that hasn't been covered by the Farms.

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Bugchasing is a practice that homosexuals do where they seek to get HIV through sexual means intentionally. It is a subsection of barebacking (which is unprotected anal sex). Bugchasing has been around since the early days of the Internet where faggots on Internet forums detail stories about how they went to a gay bar, found used condoms on the floor, and tried getting HIV through random condoms.


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Treasure Island Media (Archive) is a U.S. gay porn studio founded in 1998 by Charles Steven Key, or Paul Morris that primarily produces bareback films. It was the first commercial producer to specialize in bareback films as part of the emerging 1990s underground interest in the pre-condom era of gay porn that was concerned with the freedom of the sexual experience. The studio is named after Morris's favorite childhood book, Treasure Island.

Morris said Treasure Island Media was established to "preserve the integrity of pornography and the honest representation of male sexual behavior. When I started producing porn, the genre had become depressingly corrupt, representing only a small subset of sexual behaviors [...] I wanted to capture the kind of sex that has meaning for me and I wanted to do so as accurately and honestly as possible. I also wanted to document the men. I wasn't interested in what they looked like, I was interested in what they understood regarding the complex behavioral language of sex among men." He added, "Most recently, I've been motivated to produce pornography to directly address the appalling phenomenon of the HIV "'closet".

In October 2007, Treasure Island Media (TIM) won the prize for Best US Studio at the DAVID Awards. This caused controversy as TIM produces bareback films, causing Titan Media founder Bruce Cam to decline a Lifetime Achievement Award at the same event. In 2008, Morris received a Best Director Golden Dickie Award for "What I Can't See 2" (which also won Best Video) from Rad Video and Treasure Island Media received the most awards of any adult company including Best Studio.

Morris and his company have been repeatedly banned from consideration for most adult industry awards and events. In July 2009, it was announced that Treasure Island Media had been banned from participating in both The Folsom Street Fair and Dore Alley in San Francisco, and also International Mr. Leather in Chicago. When asked for his opinion on winning awards, Morris states, "I don't pay attention to those things. Prizes are for kids. I'm a grown up now."

Morris's list of controversies starts as follows:
  • December 2010 – the California Occupational Safety and Health Administration fined Treasure Island Media $21,000 for exposing employees (i.e. the models) to "semen and other potentially infectious materials".
  • September 25, 2011 – The studio's booth at the Folsom Street Fair was shut down by the San Francisco Police Department (SFPD).
  • August 2012 – TIM releases Slammed, which depicts men engaging in bareback sex after injecting crystal meth.
  • 2014 – Morris directs Viral Loads, a video centered on bareback sex between HIV-positive and HIV-negative men.

Even Cancerman Jim made a video reading old internet forum posts of horny gay men begging to get HIV



According to TheBMJ (no, not Bossman), This was not the first story about bug chasing—in September 1997, for example, Newsweek ran a feature entitled “A deadly dance” that discussed the phenomenon. What was shocking about the Rolling Stone article was its assertion that an astonishing 25% of all new HIV infections in gay men were caused by bug chasing. Bug chasing started gaining mainstream fame in 2003 when an article written by The Rolling Stone titled "Bug Chasers: The Men Who Long to be HIV+" (Archive)

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The majority of the article is a profile of the life of "Carlos", who is described as a gay male living in New York City. Carlos is HIV-negative but spends his time seeking HIV infection through bareback sex with AIDS men. Carlos reports that the HIV-positive men he meets have sexual arousal when allowed to spread HIV to people who wish to become infected. Carlos is unconcerned with the health consequences of HIV/AIDS, and compares it to diabetes by saying that both are easily managed by taking pills,

This private information is unavailable to guests due to policies enforced by third-parties.

The Gift is a 2003 documentary film by filmmaker Louise Hogarth documenting the phenomenon of deliberate HIV infection. The film follows the stories of two "bug chasers" who are seeking "the gift" of HIV infection. Interviews are also conducted with AIDS activist and author, Walt Odets, HIV-positive and negative men. The film explores the normalization and glamorization of HIV/AIDS and discusses the isolation and division caused by HIV status in the gay community.


In this clip, a faggot details having "fuck parties" where they have "no drugs and no attitude". Participants aren't supposed to wear condoms, but you can if you like. They had 100-120 men fucking, with only 2/3 condoms on the ground in the morning


There has been plenty of debate if "bug chasing" is a real fetish or not, but judging by the number of videos on YouTube and personal stories, I am inclined to believe this is real. Many pro-LGBTQ communities will tell you "No stalker child, this doesn't exist. Enjoy AIDS". However, it is an under-discussed topic.

I did a lot of research on this whole AIDS breeding subject after this thread opened up, and what I've read has basically said this:

1. The fetish sites where they discuss bug chasing and stealthing are 99% fantasy

2. The gay community is difficult and lonely to be in at times, and for some having AIDS brings them together and garners way more support than not having AIDS

3. bug chasing is not something that actually really happens ever, besides the few crazies here and there. It was sensationalized by a nearly fabricated article in Rolling Stone which has since been refuted.

4. Stealthing isn't actually a thing. It's all fetish fiction that seems real. It's not documented that it ever really happens, besides some crazy homicidal dude randomly here and there

5. Generally the few bug chasers there are are a younger generation of gay men who did not live through the age of AIDS and feel alone and without a community and seek inclusion, or they are the older generation that lived through the 80's and had all of their friends die around them from AIDS and have intense survivors guilt

6. Bug chasing appeals because it is the ultimate sexual deviancy, so many have adopted it as a fantasy fetish...but it ends there. The few who actually do bug chase are few and far between, granted some DO bug chase for the sexiness of risk and also the relief of not worrying about when you'll finally catch the damn thing.



In June 2012, an anonymous blogger posted "Top 10 Tips To Stealthing" to unknowingly infect gay men with AIDS. (Archive)
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Stealthing is controversial. Yes, I know that. But it’s also a reality. If you want to do it, you need to know how. If you don‘t, you should know the techniques someone employs.

The act of stealthing or a stealth fuck is somehow assuring that it appears as “safer sex” to one party involved in the fuck but, in fact, the other party has conspired to assure sperm will be deposited in the ass of the bottom.

How many times I’ve been at a sex club or an adult bookstore or during an online hook-up when a bottom hands me a condom then turns around, never to look back again. I’ve even been at a gloryhole when a bottom slips a condom on me then backs his ass up and never checks again to see if the condom is still on.

This implicit trust is by one party. I have not verbally acknowledged that I will use the condom.

These tips, combined from my own experience and discussing the methods with bottoms and other tops, brings them all together in one place. I hope you enj
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You’re a Magician. Practice. Practice.
Practice Your Trick for Your Trick.

A lot of what you do is sleight of hand — sort of like up close magic tricks. Understanding the diversions are more important to accomplish your goal and should be foremost in your mind. Whatever you’re doing as a top or bottom, you need to figure out a technique that works best for you. Nothing is ever on the fly. Some tricks may be practiced on your own but others require you find a bareback buddy and enlist his help. And like a professional magician, understanding that sometimes a trick can go wrong. You must simply be able to keep your cool and maintain the illusion.

Condom Preparation (for Tops and Bottoms)
If you control the condom, you control the whole trick. Condom brand selection can be the most difficult but luckily there’s always someone giving some away for free, either at sex clubs or doctor’s offices. Grab a handful. I find the colorful generic Durex brand brings me the most luck. Generally, you can’t find the bulk ones, but I did at Drugstore.com where there’s some variety packs there. My favorite seem to be Durex Rainbow Color.

Option 1
The season (at least in the Northern Hemisphere) is getting perfect to begin preparation. Put your condoms in your car for a few days, especially if you can sit them on your dashboard. Then bring them inside and put them into your freezer straight from the extreme heat. Then take them back outside to the car. Doing this a few times — extreme heat, extreme cold — really breaks them down but only once or twice helps.

Option 2
Pinpricks through the wrapper and the condom if you don’t have the time or patience to switch off with the extreme temperature technique is also fine. I recommend getting a very small pin and only poking though the side with the printing on the condom wrapper. If you are careful, this leaves the see-through side intact; tampering there is more likely to be seen.


Other Prep Work (Tops)
Tops will need evidence of their cum. For some, you might be able to produce more than one load. Or you just might prefer to dump both inside the unsuspecting bottom. So you’ve got multiple problems: Cum that should be “outside” the bottom (probably inside a condom) and a lack of cum inside a bottom.

[alert style=”green”]A note here about the folks at Str8Cam Lube and SpunkLube. The use of this cum-substitute has long been a product of my (and my alone) idea.The makers of Str8Cam Lube and SpunkLube neither endorse nor had any knowledge of this activity. In fact, the lube produced is “safe” for use with condoms and marketed as such. By using the product, you’re able to safely pretend to play with cum and fuck yourself in the ass with it.I could remove this gay-positive product and go with other similar products (and there are some) but I’d prefer not. I just want it clear that if anyone is to be blamed for stealthing, it’s not Str8Cam Lube/Spunk Lube. It’s also not Durex or Drugstore.com or any other products implied or listed here.[/alert]


Enter the solution: Str8Cam Lube . Condom safe, it looks and smells like cum. So if you know you’re going to fuck a bottom tomorrow and stealth him, preload a condom (make sure it’s the same color) with Str8Cam Lube (or even jerk off into it) and slick off the outside. Have it handy before hand. This is where sleight of hand is very important. You might even stage multiple condoms around the room if you’re not sure where you’ll end up. A lot of bottoms won’t notice condoms sitting out if you’re careful. If you finish up on the bed or the edge of the bed, have one just between the mattress, easy to pull out.

As a top, since you’ve already shot a load in his ass, learn how to use the lube to “shoot” another load on his chest using the lube. This takes some acting chops. Adding a reservoir of Str8Cum Lube in your hand, jerk off, staying loose around the palm. Move a lot (as a distraction) and talk about how hot his ass was. Then begin to “shoot.” Thrust forward with your body and dick while you squeeze your hand, moving your palm to where the pee hole is located. Aim down for his pubes. Grunt a lot.



Other Prep Work (Bottoms)
Yes, bottoms can stealth, as many of them told me. But in many cases, they aren’t in the driver’s seat, so to speak, since they cede control to the top. However, here’s a few things a bottom can do if there’s options to do so.

First and foremost, get rid of all condom-safe lubricants but not the bottles they came in (maybe not all… when you do have the barebacker over, you might prefer one). Fill up these “safe for condom use” bottles with oil or petroleum lubricants.

Now let’s say you’re going to his place to use his condoms and his lube. After you’re all cleaned out, take a nice glob of petroleum jelly and coat your insides. By the time you’re there, your pussy will be dripping for him (and won’t be a very friendly environment for condoms).

I Just Said I Wouldn’t Bite… You (Bottom)
With all your might, you’ve done what you can to get a top to fuck you raw. You’ve been rubbing your cunt against his hard cock and tried to take a seat but he just won’t let it in without that fucking piece of plastic. But you want his sperm so bad. You didn’t prep in any other way so you’re fucked.

Not so fast.

As a bottom, you need to provide full service. When he pulls out the condom, take it from his hands. Tear it open and apply it. Suck it. Lick it. And while using both hands to play with whatever is most sensitive like his balls or nipples, bite a hole into the tip. You have to know what you’re doing in order to make this work since you don’t want to mistakenly bite the head off his cock. It works best if you grind between your teeth for a second. Unfortunately, you can’t really give it a good rip, or he’ll notice.

If you have fingernails, you can slick up his dick inside the condom and use a nail on opposite sides to slice through.

If you can control the fuck, he will never know. So ride him. And if he asks, just tell him you want him to feel good. Relax. Lay back. Let the bottom do all the work.

Breaking a Condom (Tops)
If you can control the condom, you can control the fuck and everything about it. Of course, your prepared condoms (Tip #9) come more breakable than others, but sometimes that’s not the case. First thing is to learn how to put on a condom “porn style.” This means unrolling the cock in your hands, stretching it wide and putting your hard cock directly into it. This takes practice — a lot of practice.

During that process, you can pop a hole using a finger.

Perhaps you’re not so talented at this. If you put the condom on the normal way with the roll-down method, grab the tiptop and pinch with your dominant hand (your right hand if you’re right-handed and vice versa). With your non-dominant hand, grab near the head and pop the tip. This should create a tear.

Slipping It Off Mid-Fuck (Bottoms and Tops)
The whole question here is how much the non-stealther is monitoring the condom. If he is checking the condom closely, it would be tough. If he isn’t, it’s much easier.

As a top, pulling completely out and plunging it back in needs to happen a few times needs to be part of your regular routine. Even after the condom comes off. Work the condom down and then take it off. The best thing is to have a couple of additional things happening at the same time.

You want those distractions. If you can, give the bottom a whiff of poppers. Additionally, while slipping it off, play with his nipples, jerk his cock, kiss him or whatever else will distract him from your ultimate goal. He needs to be feeling something else rather than the difference of with or without a condom. You might even add some extra lube too.

The bottom stealther needs to create similar distractions for the top. If ass-to-mouth (ATM) is an option, you can go down on him. As you suck on him, then when you’re climbing back on top, slipping it off will be very easy as you go on top. You do you also need to try other distractions as well, like pinching a nipple, pulling on balls, etc.

Condon Watchers (Top)
So you’ve got a condom watcher. Someone who is monitoring too closely for a tip-off broken condom or to slip it off mid-fuck. How are you going to breed. First, you need to determine where the bottom wants you to cum. This maintains the illusion, of course. You also need to say you need to fuck in a particular position. Get dominant. My best technique I found is to position the bottom at the edge of the bed, pull the condom off, grab the bottom’s hands and pin them and then fuck hard core.

You must control your breathing so that when you cum, it’s not apparent you’re cumming. Immediately after shooting in the bottom’s ass, pull out and reach down to appear to pull off the condom. In this process, wipe off any excess cum from the ass. Produce the wet condom and drop it somewhere near his chest and/or face. Now breath hard and “cum.” Hopefully you’ve got some Str8Cam Lube.

Condom Watchers (Bottom)
Aggressive fuckers really need to pound to get off. So you’re probably out of luck getting the condom off. But beg him to cum while inside you. The cum goes into the condom. Take the condom off him. Suck him (distraction) and then go “clean up” with the loaded condom in hand. While you’re in the bathroom, you can load your ass with his cum.

If he’s not an aggressive pounder, you’re in luck. Just ask if he minds if you climb on top so you can jerk off while you ride it. Tell him, “It hurts a little when it’s going in.” You know how to wince. After riding with the condom on a bit, you add more lube or something and, when you sit back down on it, slip the condom off. Put it somewhere close by. Now, a good, experienced bareback bottom knows how to give a top the ride of his life. For a top who never or rarely fucks bareback, this will feel incredible so bringing him to climax will be easy. After he cums, grab the condom, grab his cock, act like you take it off and suck him clean.

What to Do If the Bareback Is Caught (Or How to Lie Convincingly)
Breaking condoms, overly attentive people, little slip-ups can cause things to be discovered. Remain calm with a “these things happen” attitude. If he’s freaking out, you just respond that you know you’re fine and have nothing to worry about and you hope he doesn’t either. If he’s the one who’s freaking out, he’s the one who will look like the problem.

Now if he starts to suspect you’ve sabotaged the condom or something else, you’ve got another issue. Try never to be on the defensive. Look him straight into the eyes and do not blink when you speak to him. Rapid blinking is a dead giveaway you’re lying. Also don’t divert your eyes ever from his, especially down and to the left (that’s another dead giveaway you’re lying). And don’t fidget with anything. Control your breathing at a steady pace and talk calmly (at this point).

Act like a politician and pivot on any attack. If he’s asking if you broke or sabotaged or took off the condom, say to him: “I honestly have no idea what you’re talking about or what you’re accusing me of.” If the condom broke, just say the condom failed. These things happen.

The most important thing is to never say too much. Don’t over explain. If there’s silence, don’t try to fill it. Let there be some awkwardness. It makes the problem seem like it’s his, not yours. And stick as close to the truth as you can, that way you won’t seem guilty or in trouble. For example… your trick just discovered the condom failed. He’s very worried.

“Are you sure I’ve got nothing to worry about?” he asked.

“I’m absolutely positive,” you respond.

If you can’t figure out what you just told him, read it again.

If you took the condom off and he’s figured that out, here’s where you have a choice. Do you want to burn him forever or do you want to fuck him again? Burning him forever, you might want to suggest (especially if he’s average size) that the condom just didn’t fit him very well and next time a more “appropriately sized condoms” should be used if he was the top. If he was the bottom, you might say something about needing to “feel” and the “ass just didn’t provide enough friction” (in other words, he was too loose).

At some point, you may need to abort. Blame his outrage on his past. Just simply say, “I don’t know whatever someone has done to you in the past, but this was just a fuck. Thanks.” He’ll be baffled.

Now if you’re hoping to fuck with him again, point out you’ve already fucked bareback by mistake (wink wink) and you both might as well keep fucking raw.

Here's a documentary of a gay man talking about the epidemic in the gay community.


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On March 24th, 2024, CuriousChaser (the website featured in the documentary) responded to the video made about them and the bug-chasing community. (Archive)
When you watch a documentary, the intention is to learn something about a particular subject based on information that is factual. If you would like to watch a documentary about bug chasing hoping to be informed from a neutral standpoint, I would not recommend the documentary recently released by Channel 4 that was produced by Future Studios, as this 20 minute documentary provides some insight into bug chasing, including a selection of facts that are overshadowed by a significant amount of bias that will most likely lead to a large percentage of viewers ridiculing those who are gay or HIV-positive and create stigma due to the way this documentary was presented.

Channel 4 is a publicly owned British free-to-air public broadcast television channel owned and operated by Channel Four Television Corporation that receives no public funding and is funded entirely by its commercial activities, including advertising. Future Studios is a production company based in London that makes documentaries and factual TV for Netflix, Channel 4, the BBC, Snap Originals and others. The producer of this documentary admitted on film to infiltrating online communities to find bug chasers and learn more about bug chasing, and shared that it was difficult to find bug chasers and gift givers, due to the small percentage of people who do actually chase and gift, yet when the presenter did find 2 people to talk to, he admitted to being disturbed by how open and honest they were.

This guy talks about a time when he brought a man home from a date, presumably had gay sex, and told him after the fact that he had HIV. Faggot dances around this subject by saying "In terms of law, I don't have to disclose it if I'm undetectable"


I am not a healthcare provider or doctor, but I can ask ChatGPT what their opinion is on it and this is what I got
ChatGPT said:
No, you cannot get HIV from someone who is undetectable.

An HIV-positive person is considered "undetectable" when they are on effective antiretroviral therapy (ART) and their viral load (the amount of HIV in their blood) is so low that standard tests cannot detect it. This state is often referred to as undetectable equals untransmittable (U=U).

Research has shown that individuals with an undetectable viral load do not transmit HIV to their sexual partners. However, for this to hold true, the person must:

  1. Be on consistent and effective ART: This means taking medication as prescribed by their healthcare provider.
  2. Have maintained an undetectable viral load for at least six months: This is confirmed through regular testing.
  3. Continue regular medical follow-ups: To ensure the viral load remains undetectable.
While the risk of sexual transmission is eliminated, it’s important to note:
  • Sharing needles or syringes can still pose a risk for HIV transmission, even with an undetectable viral load.
  • This does not eliminate the need to prevent other sexually transmitted infections (STIs), as ART does not protect against them.

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Curious Chaser (Archive) is a register-only online sexual health platform that forces you to self-dox, and discusses high-risk sexual encounters between men who have sex with men (MSM). This website openly discusses bug-chasing and gift-giving topics, including sexually transmitted infections, unprotected sexual intercourse, and intentional HIV transmission for those who are already interested in the subject of bug-chasing and gift-giving.
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To the uninitiated, gift gifting refers to giving someone AIDS.

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Breeding.zone (Archive) is another anonymous forum where faggots will discuss their gay hookups and getting filled with HIV semen.
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In early 2015, someone created PozConvert.com, a defunct religious site dedicated to the act of "gift-giving". And before you say, this is a troll. It's 100% REAL. "PozConvert.com is an utterly unique, and completely debased, online destination for fearless, slutty Barebackers who think that the best CUM is CHARGED Cum."
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On July 8th, 2014, a niggerfaggot uploaded a YouTube series called "Poz Lyfe" (Post)






Here are faggots on the internet posting about bug chasing
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In Toronto, there was an HIV+ eatery, which I'm sure everyone should eat at
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Michael Johnson / Tiger Mandingo (Archive)

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A former Missouri college wrestler has been sentenced to 10 years in prison for infecting another man with HIV and endangering four other sexual partners. Michael Johnson, 25, was sentenced Thursday after reaching a plea deal.

Johnson, also referred to as "Tiger Mandingo" in some news reports, initially was ordered to serve 30 years after a 2015 conviction, but an appeals court tossed the guilty verdict, finding that a trial court erred in admitting jail recordings that weren't disclosed to Johnson's attorneys in advance. The tapes were used to cast doubt on Johnson's claim that he disclosed he was HIV-positive to his sex partners.

So congratulations, a guy gets 30 years for knowingly infecting people with AIDS. End of the story, right?

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Common Filth talked about this community on YouTube, though his channel got nuked and only archives of his videos survived.




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Sniffles.com (Archive) is a map-based hookup app for gay men. The website features a map that shows the approximate locations of nearby users who are currently active or have recently been active on the platform. The map also shows the locations of groups and popular meeting places in the user's area. Users can browse the map to view profiles, chat, and share pictures with potential partners in their area. Sniffies does not require registration to use; however, certain features, such as filtering results, require free registration.

Many homosexuals have cited this as being worse than Grindr (which is saying something) and a radioactive place for faggots to spread their AIDS around. The name "Sniffies" came from an earlier website that was used for trading underwear, but now refers more to "sniffing out what's around" and "sniffing out the fun", according to its marketing officer


Look at the Captcha they use
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Bug chasing seems to follow the usual rationale behind depraved fetishes, which is "corruption gets them off." The problem is, this particular fetish harbors the potential for the consequences of indulging in it to spread far beyond a single intimate encounter. You can't even begin to excuse this by claiming two consenting adults can do whatever they want together because of that.

You have to wonder how you even groom someone into developing this fetish, like is there bug chaser porn?

You know what don't answer that. Don't look for it. It probably fucking exists.
 

This forum has some relevant content
What the fuck have you just introduced me to...

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I feel like most cum dumps I meet are either poz, trying to be poz, or like to parTy. Nothing wrong with this but are there any guys out there who like to take anon loads from strangers at bath houses but want to remain neg? I am on prep and don’t do drugs other than poppers and 420. I don’t wanna be pozzed but I also love letting big belly daddies and strangers breed me. I go to the bath house once a month and I take anon cock with a blind fold on and let a couple people breed me. Anyone else feel the same? Not seeing many guys who are like me. I would love to hear from you.
This is actually the most gay retarded shit I've ever read nigga... it has to be terminal
 
Bug chasing seems to follow the usual rationale behind depraved fetishes, which is "corruption gets them off." The problem is, this particular fetish harbors the potential for the consequences of indulging in it to spread far beyond a single intimate encounter. You can't even begin to excuse this by claiming two consenting adults can do whatever they want together because of that.
So, I think that kinda goes out the window when you are purposefully infecting people with AIDS. If two people want to have gay AIDS sex, fine but who's to say that these people will continue to be open and honest, assuming they are making proper medical decisions and getting their 6 month blood checkup

these are faggots come on
 
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