US Can Dems Save Themselves by Spending $20M on ‘Speaking With American Men’? - Democrats spend 20 million in order to not learn the lesson that they need to drop the idpol stuff

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In the aftermath of Donald Trump’s morbidly authoritarian return to the White House, several members of the Democratic Party elite have been pitching plans and multimillion-dollar ideas for how to win back young male voters, many of whom spurned Democrats last fall.

One of these proposals, “Speaking With American Men: A Strategic Plan,” went viral after receiving a brief shout-out in The New York Times on Sunday. Described as a $20 million effort to “study the syntax, language and content that gains attention and virality” in male-dominated spaces online (such as video games), the “SAM” fundraising pitch was roasted by everyone from left-wing podcasters to Kamala Harris 2024 operatives to Joe Biden’s former Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg, who discussed the proposal with The Bulwark.

After days of watching derisive comments pile up online and on TV (including on Fox News), and joking among ourselves about starting a competing “Speaking to Dudes” plan for only $19 million (codename: “STD”), Rolling Stone decided to get to the bottom of questions that until now remained publicly unanswered, including: Who or what is “SAM,” and who is actually running this thing?

Our reporting soon led us to the names of two Democratic Party heavy hitters running the “SAM Project,” as well as to some of the national party’s stalwarts who offered preemptive, hefty derision toward the new effort.

Certain details of this project had been circulating in Democratic circles for weeks. One Democrat who received the fundraising prospectus says that they saw it, skimmed it, then closed it immediately because what they had seen seemed so “fucking stupid.”

Still, we wanted to see for ourselves, so we reached out to the two key figures behind the SAM Project to learn more about it and review its much-discussed fundraising prospectus (embedded below). The group also shared with us its 31-page presentation titled “How to Stop Losing the Culture Wars — and Win Back Men.”

“Speaking With American Men” is being led by Ilyse Hogue, the former president of the abortion rights group NARAL Pro-Choice America, and John Della Volpe, director of polling at the Harvard Kennedy School’s Institute of Politics and an adviser to Biden’s 2020 campaign. The project’s fundraising pitch lists former Rep. Colin Allred (D-Texas), a one-time NFL player who lost a Senate race to Ted Cruz last year, as part of the SAM Project team.

In a joint interview today with Rolling Stone, Della Volpe and Hogue wanted to clarify a few things. (Yes, they have seen the mean social media posts.)

For one thing, they stress that the $20 million they set out to raise is for a two-year budget, which would be dedicated to not just research, but also for outreach, organizing efforts, and communications. The group intends to study and engage niche communities popular with young men of different races and backgrounds, including in forums and spaces focused on video games, cryptocurrencies, fitness, and DIY videos.

The point of the project, they explain, is to listen to “a cohort of young people who don’t feel like the Democratic Party hears them or cares about them,” as Della Volpe puts it. He says Democrats’ failure in 2024 was about “over relying on analytics and not listening to people,” and that the Harris campaign did “something that no other [Democratic] campaign this century has done, which is to not optimize young people.”

Hogue and Della Volpe both sought to warn Democrats last year about their growing problems with men, particularly younger men. Hogue wrote several pieces for The Bulwark last year about Trump’s appeals to young men and Democrats’ “male voter problem.” Della Volpe wrote an op-ed for the Times about how Trump was successfully “exploiting the fears and insecurities of young men.”

Their SAM Project is not just a fundraising pitch — it’s happening. Without saying how much money they’ve raised, Hogue confirms they’ve received “initial investment in the work that we’re doing and a lot of interest, honestly, in the research that is coming out of it.” Over the past two months, Della Volpe’s research firm conducted 30 focus groups among men ages 18-29.

“This level of listening is something that these young men have expressed explicitly that they have been waiting for for a long time,” says Hogue, adding that “$20 million seems like actually a drop in the bucket when you think about what is being spent over … a two-year cycle on speaking to voters. It actually feels pretty modest when you think about by how much we lost this group and how much we have to make up ground.”

The SAM Project says it is being fiscally sponsored by Democracy Matters, a Washington-based nonprofit with ties to David Brock’s liberal American Bridge network.

While some of the planks in the SAM Project documents risk coming off as ham-fisted (“Develop, disseminate, and test high-quality, meme-friendly content”), the group aspires to engage with real problems, such as how the right radicalizes men via online platforms — “utilizing the algorithms to cycle them into a right-wing funnel.”

It also highlights key financial concerns that young men face in today’s society: “job security, home ownership, wage growth, and affordable education/trade programs.” The prospectus seeks to “highlight the ways in which billionaire-backed culture war distractions serve as a smokescreen to divert attention from economic inequality, stagnating wages, and corporate exploitation.”

The SAM Project’s presentation notes that young men recognize that “institutions have failed them.” They feel “let down by politics, education, law enforcement, and labor systems.” They “don’t believe Democrats fight for them, but many don’t think Republicans care either.” And they have “learned to expect neglect, not support.”

The presentation says that “economic insecurity cuts across income and identity,” and young men are “overwhelmed by the cost of living, the instability of work, and the distance between what was promised and what’s real.”

On the other hand, the SAM Project’s financial solutions, as described in the fundraising prospectus, seem fairly small ball: “expanded child tax credits, homebuyer incentives, and workforce training.” Democrats’ 2024 platform, which failed to drive necessary support among young men, already contained references to such items. (The SAM Project team advises developing “specific language” to frame these policies “as a path to economic empowerment rather than government dependency,” which almost sounds like a conservative talking point.)

Asked about the fact that Democrats had already pitched similar ideas during the Harris campaign, Hogue says it’s impossible for the party to “build trust” around their economic policies “if you’re not in the spaces [where] people are debating them far in advance of the election, and the Democrats were completely absent from those spaces.”

Hogue says there are areas where many young men agree with Democrats, such as on social issues, as well as on economic policies, but the latter are “not being emphasized.” She explains that “unless the Democrats are saying these are top priorities because they affect young men, which they really were not, then that’s not going to resonate as much as it could.”

The SAM Project presentation indicates that many young men view Democrats as weak — and “want leadership that signals strength, clarity, and follow-through — especially in a world that feels unstable and demanding.” The document says there appears to be some level of “generational tolerance for authoritarian tendencies,” relating in part to institutions that aren’t working for them.

Hogue says that, in their research so far, what they’ve been hearing from people is that “‘Democrats don’t care about us, [and] even if they did care about us, they’re weak. They can’t get anything done. And that is an issue — that is a gap, a chasm, that needs to be addressed.”

The presentation quotes a Hispanic man from a rural background saying of Trump: “I think he has that strong man, you know, vibe that definitely a lot of guys, you know, like or relate to. I think people view him as, you know, kinda tearing down the structures that maybe they feel haven’t helped them.”

The duo fronting SAM are acutely aware that they have, even at this early stage, their fair share of intra-party critics who appear far from being won over. Several of these SAM Project skeptics are not mincing words, either.

“I think both Ilyse and John are smart, talented operatives who have very good intentions. I think broadly, writ large — and this is hardly unique to Ilyse and John — it is beyond embarrassing that in the year 2025, the Democratic Party wants to spend tens of millions of dollars to figure out how to talk to half of the population. It really isn’t that hard,” says Ammar Moussa, formerly the rapid response director for Harris’ 2024 campaign. “This really isn’t rocket science. We’re treating young men and working-class voters like they’re foreign aliens who just visited Earth who are speaking a different language. And to some degree, we are [speaking a different language], for a multitude of reasons — mostly because the Democratic Party is staffed with operatives who no longer reflect what the electorate looks like anymore. And that’s a problem.”

But, Moussa adds: “This isn’t a zoo!”

The Democrat who received the SAM Project’s prospectus, and who requested anonymity, says: “What pissed me off is that we’re doing all this research trying to find out the right combination of words to try to get them to like us, rather than understanding what their struggles and dreams are, and what they want out of life, and meeting them there.” This person also argues that multimillion-dollar fundraising efforts such as this run the risk of siphoning “money from organizations actually doing the work.”

One other Democratic recipient of the fundraising document says the pitch — particularly things like the use of word “syntax” — made the project read as broadly “condescending” to young American men. The price tag of $20 million also seemed “way too expensive,” this source says, referring to the idea of conducting a “safari-type study” of young male voters “as if they are a different species” as “insulting … why do this?”

But Hogue and Della Volpe contend that the issue is that there simply aren’t enough effective messengers or committed Democrats actually doing the work in these spaces, and that any liberal consultants or Democratic officials saying otherwise are fooling themselves.

In Hogue’s view: “‘Syntax’ is obviously sort of an academic word, but the way that breaks down for me is, when I, in the summer of 2024, was saying, ‘Hey guys, we have a problem. Trump just did a town hall on Kick with Adin Ross,’ and Democratic operatives were saying to me, ‘I don’t understand a single word you’re saying,’ that is a problem. When I wrote a piece earlier that year about the intentionality of RFK Jr. doing his failed presidential launch, bench-pressing shirtless in jeans, which was a direct line to the red-pill fitness channels, online Democratic operatives looked at me and said, ‘I’ve never heard of red-pill fitness.’ So they are free to suggest that the focus on language is a problem, but they don’t understand the language that people are speaking in the spaces where they are absent.”

“The solution is not wordsmithing our way to better slogans,” says Della Volpe, arguing that he and critics of the SAM Project likely “feel the same way around understanding values and experiences. There’s a misrepresentation, I think, of what the project is about.”

Here’s the SAM prospectus. See for yourself what all the hullabaloo was about:

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/25955887-sam-plan/#document/p1

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We really need to spend millions of dollars to consider not telling men they're the source of American society's woes by virtue of their sex/gender while paying more attention to their concerns? The dismantling of multi-tiered justice systems à la DEI would make them slightly more receptive to whatever message Democrats are trying to put forth.
 
The fundamental problem is that dems are starting from this assumption that it is their messaging that is flawed and not the platform itself. They think men are turning away from the Democratic party because they do not understand the message the dems are putting out. So they need to improve their communication skills to get their message across. They haven't even considered the possibility that men understand exactly what their message is and that they just don't like it.
 
The fundamental problem is that dems are starting from this assumption that it is their messaging that is flawed and not the platform itself. They think men are turning away from the Democratic party because they do not understand the message the dems are putting out. So they need to improve their communication skills to get their message across. They haven't even considered the possibility that men understand exactly what their message is and that they just don't like it.
Let's assume it is a messaging problem for a moment, this plan is still fundamentally flawed. They want to study "male dominated online spaces" (like video games), guess what, these "male dominated online spaces" (like video games) have been completely neutered, sanitized, and corrupted (can you guess by who?). So you will never be able to glean any meaningful information.
 
This is who the Dems are going to use to win back chuds, Olivia Julianna
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Here's her political talking points, where she tries to convince men to support abortion or else you have to support the woman or the child

Is so fucking Joever
 
If AOC gives me a blowjob every day for a year I will consider the possibility that the democratic party is an actual political organization, one that I will never vote for. That's the best offer I've got.
Crazy eyes and those teeth? Weak head-game potential.

Not worth it.
 
They spent $1.4 billion in 2024 speaking to troons, faggots, spics, niggers, illegals, kikes, Muslims, wine moms, antifa goons, Karens, soyboys, lefty boomers, and communists, and all they can spare for white men now is $20 million?

Shit, Biden found $8 billion between the couch cushions to fund Israel’s ethnic cleansing of Gaza. $20 million? That’s not going to cut it.
 
The fundamental problem is that dems are starting from this assumption that it is their messaging that is flawed and not the platform itself. They think men are turning away from the Democratic party because they do not understand the message the dems are putting out. So they need to improve their communication skills to get their message across. They haven't even considered the possibility that men understand exactly what their message is and that they just don't like it.
No stalker, child - stochastic and ontological terrorist. The problem is that conservative cishet male identifying individuals are insufficiently educated on the immeasurable benefits of prepubescent castration, kindergarten fisting lessons and ritual human sacrifice. Enjoy prison.
 
This is who the Dems are going to use to win back chuds, Olivia Julianna
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Here's her political talking points, where she tries to convince men to support abortion or else you have to support the woman or the child
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Is so fucking Joever
She says that Democrats need to move away from doing things to benefit specific groups like a black-owned business program and move toward things that will help large numbers of people. Problem is, 1) blacks will demand programs just for them and scream if anything is rolled back and 2) the reason they've focused on helping tiny demographics is that helping lots of people will consume billions of tax dollars that could be going to Israel.

She also says over and over again that their messaging doesn't connect with people and that they seem wonky and dorky to voters. She sidesteps the fact that the content of their message is insane, advocating for child transgender surgery and police abolition. Those ideas are ruinous and should be opposed no matter how they're phrased. She did mention Kamala's statement of sex changes for illegal immigrants but just sidesteps it saying "it's not the core of our platform." Anyone advocating for stuff like this, however small a part of their platform, is sending a message that they can't be trusted to run anything.
 
Odd decision to point out a core strategy of the Democrat party but hey, go for it.
It's only a culture war when the other side starts fighting back. The message they are trying to send is "if you stupid chuds would just let us win the culture war, then we could move on to more important things." It doesn't occur to them that the logic cuts both ways, if they really believed that culture war was less important than economic issues then they would let the chuds win so they could work with them on the economic stuff. As usual, my advice when someone tells you that a point of contention isn't important is "if it isn't important, then let me win."
She says that Democrats need to move away from doing things to benefit specific groups like a black-owned business program and move toward things that will help large numbers of people. Problem is, 1) blacks will demand programs just for them and scream if anything is rolled back and 2) the reason they've focused on helping tiny demographics is that helping lots of people will consume billions of tax dollars that could be going to Israel.

She also says over and over again that their messaging doesn't connect with people and that they seem wonky and dorky to voters. She sidesteps the fact that the content of their message is insane, advocating for child transgender surgery and police abolition. Those ideas are ruinous and should be opposed no matter how they're phrased. She did mention Kamala's statement of sex changes for illegal immigrants but just sidesteps it saying "it's not the core of our platform." Anyone advocating for stuff like this, however small a part of their platform, is sending a message that they can't be trusted to run anything.
Moving back to the policy of liberal universalism that they succeeded with under Clinton and Obama would probably be a good tactical move for the dems. They used to have this "we're all in this together, a rising tide lifts all boats" attitude. They abandoned it for a zero sum game of identity group against identity group, and that has alienated a lot of people. The smart thing to do would be to go back to the old strategy. But as you pointed out, there are too many special interest groups that would have too much to lose if this actually happened. So it's not going to happen.
 
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