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yeah, I have no clue why they have so many products in the same categories, especially since they aren't really differentiated.
As is, you could consolidate the corolla cross, ch-r, and bz4x into one product, leave the rav4, consolidate the highlander and crown signia, and leave the grand highlander. that would take the crossover category down from 7 products to 4. Really, it should be 3 since the grand highlander is retarded and should be deprecated, and if you were shopping for that, either get a sienna, or go up to the sequoia.
and then there is the framed SUVs where the 4runner and land cruiser should be consolidated into one product because they are the the same thing now that everything is on the same platform, and its not like 30 years ago when the (real) land cruiser was (supposedly) built better than the sequoia.
The crown signia, and the crossover sedan thing are especially egregious since they are superfluous products when the highlander and the camry exist. I know they are supposed to be a middle ground between toyota and lexus, but they aren't doing a good job. I have never seen a real crown sedan in person, but if they were going to bring one of the crown products over, it should have been that. I think its supposed to be a full size sedan instead of a mid size like the camry is.
We should be due for a new one soon, but also cheap models are suffering across brands; mainly because anyone in the position to buy a new car has money, and the people that the corolla is aimed at, do not.
Given that the US market LandCruiser appears to be the 250 Series Prado*, then yes. Though I'd argue Toyota should give you guys the 300 Series LandCruiser and 70 Series too, though idk if the latter would pass US safety regs on account of it being based on a 40 year old design.
* btw the Prado is as much a real LandCruiser as a toon is a real woman, or at least that's the popular opinion held in places where people take LandCruiser ownership very seriously
Given that the US market LandCruiser appears to be the 250 Series Prado*, then yes. Though I'd argue Toyota should give you guys the 300 Series LandCruiser
The distinction does not matter because all of the current body on frame Toyota products all share the same platform (TNGA-F). I am 90% sure the Tundra, Sequoia, 300 series Land Cruiser, Lexus LX, Lexus GX, 250 series Land Cruiser, 4Runner, and Tacoma all have the same shit underneath the skirt, they just add/remove reinforcement to the areas on the frame that need it depending on which model it's going under; that and suspension changes like leaf springs for poverty tacomas, and the addition of kdss to the LX, and GX, and locking diffs on some trims.
We won't because its on life support everywhere else in the world it is sold due to emissions and safety regs, AND they wouldn't let it canibalize tacoma / 4Runner sales. On top of that, by the time it is imported, without any homologation (changes required to meet US traffic code, safety standards, etc.) you're looking at $37.5k+, and no normal car buyer is going to look at a 70 series, and a base 4Runner and pick the 70 series.
That said, I wish we got them. I don't know how the chicken tax + whatever other tariffs are calculated, but I wish toyota just said they were worth like 2 dimes and some pocket lint, and were able to sell them for $30k out the door.
The distinction does not matter because all of the current body on frame Toyota products all share the same platform (TNGA-F). I am 90% sure the Tundra, Sequoia, 300 series Land Cruiser, Lexus LX, Lexus GX, 250 series Land Cruiser, 4Runner, and Tacoma all have the same shit underneath the skirt
The 300 is noticeably larger than a 250 or a 4Runner though.
I'm a bit embarrassed that I overlooked the Fortuner, probably because it's a relatively poor seller compared to the 250 Prado, the LC300 and 70 Series down here. Think 4Runner but on a Hilux platform. Do you think there would there be enough difference between the Hilux platform and TNGA-F to justify swapping the 4Runner out for the Fortuner.
Not necessarily. South Africa and Australia are two of the biggest markets for the 70 Series. The former has bigger problems to worry about than globohomo emissions and safety regs,
Toyota will do just enough to keep the 70 Series compliant for Australua's set of oddball regulations because it's easily Toyota Australia's most profitable vehicle per unit. At one stage the waiting list for the outgoing V8 70 Series ballooned out to 3 years, though the waiting list on the 4-banger is only around 12 months. It also didn't help that Toyota Australia paused orders last year to give the factory time to get ready for the aforementioned regs.
Then there are the thousands of orders placed by international agencies such as the UN, along with all the middle men who buy 70 Series to resell to various terrorist groups and militia in third world shitholes around the world; most of these are funneled through a Toyota distributor in Gibraltar.
Only $37.5k? Down here the 70 Series starts from close to double that (around $80k dollarydoos / $60k Freedom Bux). Though a 70 Series is like money in the bank, as very few vehicles hold their value down here like a 70 Series (in fact a good low mileage 70 Series will likely appreciate in value).
That said, I wish we got them. I don't know how the chicken tax + whatever other tariffs are calculated, but I wish toyota just said they were worth like 2 dimes and some pocket lint, and were able to sell them for $30k out the door.
This is the part I feel most conflicted about. Toyota amortized the R&D on the 70 Series decades ago, so they're making money hand over fist per unit, It feels a bit like price gouging, but Toyota is being guided by the invisible hand. Even at the prices they ask, Toyota sells 70 Series LCs of all body shapes as fast as they can make them.
I bet dollars to donuts that Toyota will keep making the 70 Series with only the bare minimum of running changes for as long as it's a cashcow.
I have no clue. The short answer is I don't think they are going to swap the Fortuner for the 4Runner, or put the Fortuner on TNGA-F
I read this article that says they kept with IMV for the new Hilux because it is sold in developing nations where keeping price down, and being able to fix it when it breaks is important. The thing is though, comparing equivalently priced Hiluxs and Tacomas, the tacoma looks like a better product besides the engine, and surely it wouldn't be a pain in the ass to just put the diesel in the Tacoma and sell it abroad as a hilux, even if they can't sell it in the US. Then toyota can focus their engineering on one product instead of two, and theoretically be able to offer a better and cheaper product. The bean counters and product planners at toyota must know something I don't.
Since they stuck with IMV for the Hilux, I would imagine they would stick with it for the Fortuner if they are going to come out with a new one. There is the chance that Australia could see the 4Runner come in like the Tundra did. How popular Tundras are, I don't know, but I do know they sell them, and it must be worthwhile for toyota to make them in RHD.
Toyota will do just enough to keep the 70 Series compliant for Austraila's set of oddball regulations because it's easily Toyota Australia's most profitable vehicle per unit
yeah, because they can squeeze people to pay $60k USD for them there, with a waitlist. They're a cunt hair under $30k USD in japan. They sell them for $50k USD in the UAE, but they get a 4L gas V6 instead of the diesel.
It is, as evidenced by above. They should be able to sell them for nothing and still make money.
I thought it was kinda fucked up that I optioned out a 4Runner and it was in the low $60s, but at least you get a crash structure and some modern ameneties for your money. I would like something with low/no tech, but damn, if they're gonna charge that much for it elsewhere, they can keep it.
With the sheer number of those failures, and the Accord 1.5T being the worst when it comes to this, how will Honda dealers and corporate try to spin to deny owners this warranty?
I bought a cheap run-around last year and it's been fine outside of a rusty exhaust and a failed 02 sensor but both the rear shock mounts have now snapped. Not a big a job to do but can I for the life of me get the lug nuts lose. I don't know who the fuck worked on the car before me but they must have just sent the lug nuts on with an impact at a million Nm of torque.
With the sheer number of those failures, and the Accord 1.5T being the worst when it comes to this, how will Honda dealers and corporate try to spin to deny owners this warranty?
It's crazy to me that Honda made a mistake this basic and this easy to avoid in their effort to enshitify their cars, after 30 years of making similar small 4cyls that had no head gasket issues.
Why do women get so angry when you ask them “why did you buy your SUV?”
I can answer exactly why I bought my car. It’s small, lightweight , rwd, it’s quite pretty ,the roof comes off and it’s got a proper LSD.
if you ask a woman why she bought the biggest suv she could afford they can’t answer. They don’t know anything about driving dynamics or whether it’s FWD,4WD or shitty haldex fwd+. They just get really angry and defensive.
It's crazy to me that Honda made a mistake this basic and this easy to avoid in their effort to enshitify their cars, after 30 years of making similar small 4cyls that had no head gasket issues.
It's not that Honda doesn't know how to build an engine, but they have to make it fucked up on purpose to pass emissions & fuel economy. Thiletonomics says that the accord is most affected. My guess is that the 1.5 was developed for the civic/hrv and not intended to go into larger products, somehow it did, and now that its in a heavier vehicle, it has to work harder, possibly creating excessive boost, leading to headgasket failure.
Look at the situation with other automakers. The V6 in the tundra (which I might add was developed for the lexus LS, not a 6,000 lb truck) is supposedly having issues due to undersized crankshaft bearings and/or oiling issues. Toyota would not fuck that up other than having to reduce friction to meet emissions. Similar situation to GM. I know its not the same exact engine, but they've been making a pushrod V8 since the 50's. They didn't suddenly decide that they didn't know how to, just in their case it was a mix of trying to meet emissions/cafe by running thin oil, and trying cut corners on rod bearing and crankshaft quality.
not woman, but it's probably a combination of challenging the status quo, and having no interest in cars.
Some people think that a bigger vehicle means it is safer which isn't necessarily true, especially when cars have to meet more stringent safety standards than most SUVs and trucks. I was looking for a crash experiment I saw one time, it was a cabin intrusion test between a last gen tundra and a volvo product. a piece of wood or steel hit the cabin at the top of the windshied where it met the roof. The tundra deformed like a sardine can. The volvo took the impact and absorbed it, but it didn't peel the roof off.
Women also generally don't care about cars, they see them as status symbols and/or appliances. Some people would pick out their car like they would a fridge. They don't give a shit about how it works, just that it keeps food cold, is in their prefered door arangement, has the features they want, and that it matches their other appliances. If they are an "informed" consumer they might know which models have problems, but a lot of people do not care.
I would wager that there are a lot of men too that have little interest in cars and couldn't tell you what an LSD, or what diff gearing does.
I've never asked why someone bought anything to their face, but you might be asking it in a way that offends them as well. You might be asking it in a way like you are questioning their judgement, putting them on the defense.
Buying a used car is a pain in the cunt these days.
In the past it was 'hello mate, I'm interested in your motor, can you tell me a bit about it', and a folder of receipts and paperwork would slam down on the table in front of you, making the same noise my cock does when I whip it out. You would know every detail from number of owners, to mechanical work, to the time someone lost their virginity in the back seat.
That folder used to be a source of pride.
Now?
Sorry mate, I don't have anything for this 60,000 pound exotic car, but I'll throw in a service if you take it. or someone wanting top buck for a car that hasn't seen fluids in years...
With the sheer number of those failures, and the Accord 1.5T being the worst when it comes to this, how will Honda dealers and corporate try to spin to deny owners this warranty?
Honda screwed the pooch with that Earth Dreams shit. Between this and the well-documented oil dilution issues, the L-series engine's reputation has been utterly trashed. The saddest part is that early versions used in the Fit / Jazz from 2001 right up until the present day (in some markets) are right up there with the K-series as far as reliability goes.
It's not that Honda doesn't know how to build an engine, but they have to make it fucked up on purpose to pass emissions & fuel economy. Thiletonomics says that the accord is most affected. My guess is that the 1.5 was developed for the civic/hrv and not intended to go into larger products, somehow it did, and now that its in a heavier vehicle, it has to work harder, possibly creating excessive boost, leading to headgasket failure.
Also, IIRC, the Accord is tuned to have more boost compared to the Civic and HR-V, and the latter two have lesser reported head gasket failures, but they do happen on those cars too. Also, the 1.5T was designed in the Siamesed cylinder configuration, where the slit between the cylinders allows coolant to get in (?), and it breaks down the head gasket. Also, the turbo is located around cylinders 2 and 3 (?) which also further exasperates the gasket breaking down:
Also, Honda cheapened out on the head gaskets themselves, since the 2.0 Hybrid and 2.0T (the 2.0T is not part of this warranty extension) have also reported head gasket failures, but in lesser amounts compared to the 1.5Ts.
It's crazy to me that Honda made a mistake this basic and this easy to avoid in their effort to enshitify their cars, after 30 years of making similar small 4cyls that had no head gasket issues.
The d17 series would like a word with you on lacking head gasket issues.
Pic related, my old civic that ran for 4 years with a blown head gasket until a Mexican pulled out in front of me totaling the car. Luckily the truck and trailer were owned by the retard contracting out to him so I got double my money paid from their insurance.
The d17 series would like a word with you on lacking head gasket issues.
Pic related, my old civic that ran for 4 years with a blown head gasket until a Mexican pulled out in front of me totaling the car. Luckily the truck and trailer were owned by the retard contracting out to him so I got double my money paid from their insurance.View attachment 9550801
Honda D series are great little things, I know they had to move on, but so many of them still chugging along. I've had 2 D's in my civic (the oem 15b1 and an a6 cammed) man, looking back it's always cool what we can do and see out of motors. But Honda made even the D bomb proof and could take so much power. The D's for those not into older honda were the "entry" and cheaper SOHC motors, the sportier ones were the B.
I'm still running over 200 WHP on an B sucking it's own air, sadly the spares etc have dried up. I don't know if I'll K swap if/when I blow this up.
Dumping the dip stick is like, just a fuck you. It's really not a cost thin, it's a fucking streched nickle ffs. It's not a failure point, it's not where you fill or drain, it's just to keep YOU (and probably most mechanics) out of the car. Nope Fuck you GM.
