KR Comatose student released from best Korea dies at 22 - hey MSM where'sthe news swarm about this?!

Damn this is sad,
CINCINNATI (AP) — Otto Warmbier, an American college student who was released by North Korea in a coma last week, died Monday afternoon. He was 22.

The family announced his death in a statement released by UC Health Systems, saying, "It is our sad duty to report that our son, Otto Warmbier, has completed his journey home. Surrounded by his loving family, Otto died today at 2:20pm."

The family thanked the University of Cincinnati Medical Center for treating him but said, "Unfortunately, the awful torturous mistreatment our son received at the hands of the North Koreans ensured that no other outcome was possible beyond the sad one we experienced today."

They said they were choosing to focus on the time they were given with their "warm, engaging, brilliant" son instead of focusing on what they had lost.

Warmbier was sentenced to 15 years in prison with hard labor in North Korea, convicted of subversion after he tearfully confessed he had tried to steal a propaganda banner.

The University of Virginia student was held for more than 17 months and medically evacuated from North Korea last week. Doctors said he returned with severe brain damage, but it wasn't clear what caused it.

Parents Fred and Cindy Warmbier told The Associated Press in a statement the day of his release that they wanted "the world to know how we and our son have been brutalized and terrorized by the pariah regime " and expressed relief he had been returned to "finally be with people who love him."

He was taken by Medivac to Cincinnati, where he grew up in suburban Wyoming. He was salutatorian of his 2013 class at the highly rated high school, and was on the soccer team among other activities.

Ohio's U.S. senators sharply criticized North Korea soon after his release.

Republican Sen. Rob Portman of the Cincinnati area said North Korea should be "universally condemned for its abhorrent behavior." Democratic Sen. Sherrod Brown of Cleveland said the country's "despicable actions ... must be condemned." Portman added that the Warmbiers have "had to endure more than any family should have to bear."

Three Americans remain held in North Korea. The U.S. government accuses North Korea of using such detainees as political pawns. North Korea accuses Washington and South Korea of sending spies to overthrow its government.

At the time of Warmbier's release, a White House official said Joseph Yun, the U.S. envoy on North Korea, had met with North Korean foreign ministry representatives in Norway the previous month. Such direct consultations between the two governments are rare because they don't have formal diplomatic relations.

At the meeting, North Korea agreed that Swedish diplomats could visit all four American detainees. Yun learned about Warmbier's condition in a meeting a week before the release the North Korean ambassador at the U.N. in New York. Yunthen dispatched to North Korea and visited Warmbier June 12 with two doctors and demanded his release on humanitarian grounds.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/us-student-freed-north-korea-204425775.html
 
Condolences to the family.

NK is fucked! Like I found out about this on a South Korean forum, and they want blood-for-blood. Apparently, the whole thing reminded them that NK has kidnapped many SK citizens and made them fear the worse for them. That just it, though, they are tired of living in fear, and said they want kill as many North Koreans as possible. Never thought I would see that reaction from those cats.
 
ohhhh they done fucked up now.

like it's a fucking slap in the face that those cowards sent him back in a comatose state. those motherfuckers killed him and only gave him back in a comatose state to avoid the shitstorm.

well, guess what, nk. get rekt.
 
This is what you get for going to a place like North Korea. It look like the poster he stole was from a staff only area of the hotel. It's not like he casually took something from his room like how some people steal towels. He intentionally went to a restricted area to take a poster. That is if he wasn't just railroaded for the amusement of Dear Leader.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...a-roommate-speaks-out/?utm_term=.394523e8ed62

This account by Otto Warmbier's roommate at the hotel is rather suspicious. After being taken away by security at the airport Otto Warmbier called the tour guide and insisted that he couldn't get on the plane and travel because he was ill. He said he wanted to be taken to a hospital. The roommate has no knowledge of the theft. That doesn't mean that he didn't do it though. I've heard that he wanted to take it to impress some girl. i also heard it was a bet. Who knows. But if it's true then it was a really stupid thing to do. You don't mess around in North Korea.

A sales manager in his mid-40s from a small English town called Stone in Staffordshire, Gratton traveled to North Korea for the adventure of it, he said. He joined a four-day, three-night tour with a company called Young Pioneers Tours. Gratton met Warmbier in Beijing just before their flight, and the two struck up a friendship.
“When we got to Pyongyang, we were the two single guys, so it seemed logical for us to be put in the same room,” Gratton said. “So basically from the time we got to Pyongyang to the time I left him, we were together.”
Warmbier stood out in the group because he was so young, Gratton said. The two bonded that first night over a couple of beers.
“I got to know Otto really, really well,” he said. “He was such a mature lad for his age.”
Their second night in Pyongyang was New Year’s Eve and the whole group went out into the city square before coming back to the hotel for more drinking. This is the night that Warmbier allegedly committed the offense inside the hotel for which he would later be given a sentence of 15 years hard labor.
The charge was that Warmbier allegedly went into a staff-only area of the hotel and tore down a propaganda banner hanging on the wall, intending to steal it. Two months later, North Korean state media showing a tearful Warmbier confessing to that crime and begging for forgiveness, clearly under duress.
Gratton said that in the four days they spent together, Warmbier never said anything about a banner and that he saw zero evidence that Warmbier was planning any such act — quite the opposite. The first Gratton heard of the alleged attempted theft was when it was mentioned in news reports weeks later. Gratton and Warmbier weren’t together 24 hours each day, but they traveled together during the day and hung out each night.
“I’ve got nothing from my experiences with him that would suggest he would do something like that,” he said. “At no stage did I ever think he was anything but a very, very polite kid.”
The first time Gratton saw any sign of trouble was when the pair were among the last to go through security at the Pyongyang International Airport in the early morning of Jan. 2, 2016. They were running late because the hotel had mysteriously and uncharacteristically missed their wake-up call.
After handing their passports to the immigration officer, there was a lull, followed by the appearance of two North Korean security officials, who took Warmbier to a private room. Gratton assumed it was a routine check or another form of mild harassment because Warmbier was American.
“No words were spoken. Two guards just come over and simply tapped Otto on the shoulder and led him away,” Gratton said. “I just said kind of quite nervously, ‘Well, that’s the last we’ll see of you.’ There’s a great irony in those words.”
“That was it. That was the last physical time I saw Otto, ever. I was also the only person to see Otto taken away,” Gratton said. “Otto didn’t resist. He didn’t look scared. He sort of half-smiled.”
When the group got to the Beijing Capital International Airport, the tour guide called back to her colleague in Pyongyang, who by that time had been summoned to the airport and was with Warmbier, according to another person on the plane, who overheard the call.
Warmbier spoke on that call and said to the guide that he had a severe headache and wanted to be taken to the hospital, the other passenger said. Repeatedly, Warmbier told the guide he couldn’t travel because hefelt ill. Neither Young Pioneer Tours nor the tour guide responded to requests for comment.
Gratton said Warmier showed no signed of illness that day. Perhaps the North Koreans were trying to delay any public acknowledgement of his arrest, he speculated. It was 20 days later that they finallyannounced he was being detained and being accused of a “hostile act.”

Gratton has stayed in contact intermittently with Warmbier’s parents over the past year-and-a-half. He said he was “stunned” nobody from the U.S. government or the tour group ever tried to contact him to ask him if he had any information about what happened.
His message is that no one should blame Warmbier for his predicament. Even if he did take down the banner, it’s irrelevant because the consequences have been so horrendously out of proportion, he said.
“No one deserves that. He was just a young lad who wanted a bit of adventure,” he said. “Every once in a while they single out someone to make a point, and this was just Otto’s turn. It’s so sick and warped and unnecessary and evil.
 
I know what he did was idiotic...but it's still really sad. I'm really glad that his family at least got to see him one more time, that they were able to have closure. That's a luxury I'm sure many more families are never going to get.
 
This is what you get for going to a place like North Korea. It look like the poster he stole was from a staff only area of the hotel. It's not like he casually took something from his room like how some people steal towels. He intentionally went to a restricted area to take a poster. That is if he wasn't just railroaded for the amusement of Dear Leader.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...a-roommate-speaks-out/?utm_term=.394523e8ed62

This account by Otto Warmbier's roommate at the hotel is rather suspicious. After being taken away by security at the airport Otto Warmbier called the tour guide and insisted that he couldn't get on the plane and travel because he was ill. He said he wanted to be taken to a hospital. The roommate has no knowledge of the theft. That doesn't mean that he didn't do it though. I've heard that he wanted to take it to impress some girl. i also heard it was a bet. Who knows. But if it's true then it was a really stupid thing to do. You don't mess around in North Korea.
So there's no reason to believe the official NK story?
 

This fucking astounds me. The kid in this story literally fucking died for stealing a poster, and possibly for nothing at all, just because North Korea is so batshit insane they just randomly murder people.

Michael Fay, there is no doubt, vandalized six cars, and got a few whacks from a cane, which he had coming. It's very easy not to get caned in Singapore. One is not to go to Singapore. Another one is if you do decide to go to Singapore, don't vandalize cars. And if you do choose to go to Singapore and then vandalize cars there, suck it up when you get an entirely reasonable punishment for doing that shit.

Stopped reading after the comparison of the two, because it's literally moronic. Michael Fay had it coming. If they'd just given Warmbier a few lashes for his stupidity, that would also have been totally okay.

One guy is alive, though. The other is dead for no reason at all.
 
Also found this. One of the videos is still on the page.
http://www.news.com.au/travel/trave...r/news-story/357f95b68ef5d872b0650c044a6e09fb

Fighting through tears and his own quivering voice, 21-year-old American Otto Warmbier never broke character.

“My mother needs me,” Warmbier said, before reaching into his pocket for a tissue. “My father needs me. My younger brother, my younger sister need me. I have made the single worst decision of my life but I’m only human.”

For his efforts and for his confession — Warmbier was filmed stealing a poster on January 1 — he was sentenced to 15 years hard labour.

But maybe, just maybe, they were crocodile tears. One expert says “Warmbier is a clever boy” and “a convenient hostage” who, despite begging to see his family again, actually wants to stay in Pyongyang.

Dr Leonid Petrov, a Korean Studies researcher at the Australian National University, told news.com.au he doesn’t buy Warmbier’s story for a second.

“He’s acting, you can see if you watch the videos,” Dr Petrov said. “One video after another show he’s obviously acting.

“(He) plays his theatrical role exclusively for the North Koreans to make them feel proud and powerful. He is a convenient hostage and will be rewarded for that. Welcome to a new form of A year in Korea: Self-imposed field work.”

I think it's more along the lines of "read from this script or you'll have an unfortunate "accident".

“It looks to me like he is interested in staying there. He presents himself as a victim (but) I think he’s simply trying to get the media attention and get the experience of being detained there,” he said.

“He is trying to get as deep into the situation as possible. Maybe he’s curious, maybe he’s doing field work.”

Warmbier’s speech, delivered a month after his arrest, has been watched around the world. In it, he expresses absolute regret.

“I beg that you find it in your hearts to give me forgiveness and allow me to return home to my family. I also beg that journalists accurately and objectively report my story.”

In a second video, Warmbier confessed to his crimes. He labelled himself a “severe criminal” and explained his motivations.

“I committed my crime of taking out the important political slogan from the staff-only area of the Yanggakdo International Hotel, aimed at harming the work ethic and the motivation of the Korean people,” Wambier said.

“After committing my crime against the people and government of the DPR Korea, I was detained. I have been very impressed by the Korean Government’s humanitarian treatment of severe criminals like myself and of their very fair and square legal procedures.

“I understand the severity of my crime and I have no idea what sort of penalty I may face but I am begging to the Korean people and government for my forgiveness and I am praying to the heavens so that I may be returned home to my family.”

"very fair and square legal procedure". That's some awkward english right there.

‘HE KNOWS A LOT. HE IS NOT NAIVE’

Dr Petrov said Warmbier is smarter than people realise. The Theta Chi fraternity brother is on the university’s Dean’s List for outstanding academic achievement.

“He was in North Korea (twice before), he obviously knew the place. He went to a restricted area, an area a lot of people don’t know exists. He’s not naive, he’s not a victim.”

He said Warmbier knew “more about North Korea than any of America’s previous detainees” and could be trying to find out as much as he can before he’s kicked out of the country.

“He is a victim in the eyes of Americans,” Dr Petrov told news.com.au.

“He’s trying to portray that he’s not a sympathiser but he also wants as much access to the system as possible. A foreigner who knows too much is a threat to the system so he may not stay there long. They may trade him (for a North Korean prisoner in America) but sooner or later they will release him on some conditions.”

I totally buy that he's acting. But I'm leaning way more towards him being told by North Korean authorities exactly what to say. So when they haul his ass back to the gulag they might not beat him quite so much.

It looks like he was in North Korea twice before. I'm thinking it's more of a rich kid thing. The same way some rich kids brag about all of the resorts they go to. This dumbass wanted to be different. He wanted to brag about North Korea.

Maybe I'm wrong and he's a spy. And that's why he ended up in a coma. But for all we know he smuggled something out of there twice before and just didn't succeed the third time.
 
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“He was in North Korea (twice before), he obviously knew the place. He went to a restricted area, an area a lot of people don’t know exists."

I guess I get wanting to see a crazy place like NK.
But THREE times!?

His parents or the tour company should have known any further trips would have put him under intense scrutiny and his every movement watched even more so.

It's sad he died in such a way.
That is a tragedy but use your damn brain when you go into a country that has concentration camps that makes Auschwitz pale in comparison.
 
Also found this. One of the videos is still on the page.
http://www.news.com.au/travel/trave...r/news-story/357f95b68ef5d872b0650c044a6e09fb



I think it's more along the lines of "read from this script or you'll have an unfortunate "accident".



"very fair and square legal procedure". That's some awkward english right there.



I totally buy that he's acting. But I'm leaning way more towards him being told by North Korean authorities exactly what to say. So when they haul his ass back to the gulag they might not beat him quite so much.

It looks like he was in North Korea twice before. I'm thinking it's more of a rich kid thing. The same way some rich kids brag about all of the resorts they go to. This dumbass wanted to be different. He wanted to brag about North Korea.

Maybe I'm wrong and he's a spy. And that's why he ended up in a coma. But for all we know he smuggled something out of there twice before and just didn't succeed the third time.

"Dr." Leonid Petrov is obviously a paid apologist for this vile regime and should be thrown in prison himself. I wonder how much he was paid for this bullshit that preceded the murder of Otto Warmbier.
 

Going to North Korea was dumb. Stealing a poster was dumb. Getting sentenced to fifteen years' hard labor, ending up comatose and brain-damaged, never seeing your family again while conscious and ultimately dying of your injuries only days after being released ... that is not an appropriate punishment for stupidity and naivete. Trying to turn it into a bullshit white privilege discussion is just vile. That poor kid.
 
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