#Comicsgate - The Culture Wars Hit The Funny Books!

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WhimsicalTrolli said:
It was a waste of 200k to be honest.
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FROG said:
As for Zack's GFM, I guess we'll see. I'm not sure what the point is anymore.
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His GoFundMe has the same amount of money as ANOTHER Case for the LITTLEST UMBRELLA. I know which one I'd rather see come April/May 2021.

Discovery is scheduled to conclude in a matter of days. The trial date has already been set. People are getting what they paid for.
 
FROG said:
Looks like Donal did do a CyberFrog piece for a trading card set.
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Even if Donal Delay is a fucking scamer and a dishonorable fuck who doesn't pay his writers, one must admit it looks much more dynamic and interesting than your stiff over detailed, kind of boring art (you would gain from dropping some of that overdetailed sucking to hollywood style movie wannabe art style that really doesn't fit the high fantasy / sci fi style of your main characters, look at your past work on cyberfrog, it had a graphical identity, it has now completely lost it), it also looks much more directly readable and appealing to the eye, as well as he has a better understanding of how to place elements in a panel / picture (composition, learn about it). U should hire him if you want to bring a larger and younger audience to your comics.

Also, thanks for Nasser if you did call him out, even tho it's a very tiny droplet of honesty in an ocean of bullshit, it's still commandable for it being the exception. Even tho it shouldn't even need to be thanked, nor to be the exception either, it should be the standard line of work that's what is truely fucking sad about it.
 
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HonsPonzud said:
Even if Donal Delay is a fucking scamer and a dishonorable fuck who doesn't pay his writers, one must admit it looks much more dynamic and interesting than your stiff over detailed, kind of boring art (you would gain from dropping some of that overdetailed sucking to hollywood style movie wannabe art style that really doesn't fit the high fantasy / sci fi style of your main characters, look at your past work on cyberfrog, it had a graphical identity, it has now completely lost it), it also looks much more directly readable and appealing to the eye, as well as he has a better understanding of how to place elements in a panel / picture (composition, learn about it). U should hire him if you want to bring a larger and younger audience to your comics.

Also, thanks for Nasser if you did call him out, even tho it's a very tiny droplet of honesty in an ocean of bullshit, it's still commandable for it being the exception. Even tho it shouldn't even need to be thanked, nor to be the exception either, it should be the standard line of work that's what is truely fucking sad about it.
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Not a lot of people have said something publicly about Donal, especially not a lot of people as influential as EVS. He's actually the only big YouTuber to say something. I'm thankful for anyone speaking up about it.
 
FROG said:
Unless you sue Donal, it doesn't seem like you're getting any money from him. Business deals that sour like this mean there's absolutely no good will, and Donal can easily just spend all of the money producing and shipping the comic, leaving no profits to split.

I think that's the end result of all of the fighting. Donal wants to fuck you over, and I'm afraid he's going to get this particular laugh.
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But you'd still work with someone like that?


FROG said:
Having seen the trio, no, no plans to eat their cooking. Jesus.

As for Zack's GFM, I guess we'll see. I'm not sure what the point is anymore.
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Of the lawsuit? You don't think Waid would sabotage you anymore or that places like Dynamite and Antarctic are irrelevant. Because unless you plan to cover everything from printing to retail, there will always be choke points SJWs will go after.
 
Grimm said:
Dude, your a Kiwi Farmer. You've must have seen must more weirder shit than what I've said. Besides, y'all brought up TUG, not me.
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But who in the hell casually alog about killing and raping someone's mom......3/5ths like you need to be whipped the common sense into you.
 
WhimsicalTrolli said:
But who in the hell casually alog about killing and raping someone's mom......3/5ths like you need to be whipped the common sense into you.
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Sir, you shouldn't be throwing stones from glass houses in regards of people saying things.

WhimsicalTrolli said:
The retarded nigger is back.
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WhimsicalTrolli said:
exorcising the spirit of joggers out of Ashley's pussy? Of course you go outside you're too ugly to be a house slave.
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Mister Dongs said:

This morning, Mecha Iscariot took to the tubes to address the expose of his pact with Zombienomicon, that he sold Preston out to Caesar for thirty piece of "silver" Ribbitcoin. That in a moment of weakness he allowed the Deceiver to ply his ear with honeyed words to the effect that Preston must be removing from the Comicsgate™ Wiki. That he was led from the true path of comic book criticism and astray from the pure goal of redeeming the fallen medium that is comics.

With a somewhat more circumspect and humbled tone than before, he then turns to the main content of his show - reading Liam's youtube comments in response to his and Preston's review because quote, "Liam felt very strongly about it". All things said and alleged about Liam in the past, Mecha credits him with being a true believer in his product and his goal and that he can appreciate the sincerity of an effort even if the end result falls short in his estimation.

Preston Poulter then arrives on stream to commiserate over the hostility of Liam's response to their review, but that topic is quickly dispensed with to offer Mecha forgiveness for his transgressions against him, saying with a touch of sorrow in his voice that he wears the crown of thorns of anti-CG of his own accord, that he suffers the slings and arrows of his erstwhile friends willingly for the redemption of all. Poulter adds that in the end, when recriminations and drama videos and "cancellings" are being cast about one should ask if you yourself are truly free of sin? And let he who hath spread the first cheek catch the first bone. Amen
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To follow this up

Three days ago (Aug 17) Doug TenNapel sensed the growing schism among his flock and wished to mend fences the only way he knows how, by demonstrating tolerance, unity, compassion and most importantly the Christian virtue of forgiveness. First welcomed on his stream was Mecha McCheese, extolling McCheese's virtues as "a faithful brother and a friend". Next, Doug brings Preston on. First discussed was something they shared in common, their effors in reviewing Xenotype: Pursuit by Liam Gray. Doug plays devil's advocate with the work, arguing that his own cartoons are fantasically cartoonish and illogical in nature and could not stand against the realistic standard they imposed upon X : P and that, since much of Doug's writing is autobiographical at heart, criticism of self-inserts would be applicable as well. What matters to Doug was if the work fundamentally succeded in entertaining the reader or not.

Mecha shifts to asking Doug's opinion on Liam's threats of channel strikes and a possible lolsuit against Mecha and Preston; Doug replies that they are the actions of a "petulant child" and are to be expected from a lolcow, but being a good Christian means forgiving all failings and not just that of sin. Doug goes on to ask the panel that at the end of the day, is not everyone on this stream a nerd making cringe content for public consumption on the internet? Are we all not Liam, in some way? Judge not, lest ye be judged, looks to be the intent of the Worm's sagacious wisdom.

Not sold on the principle of forgiveness, Mecha lists other offenses Liam has done such as superchatting his grievances against smaller creators but, paraphrasing, Doug repeats his refrain of hating the sin and not the sinner and segues into Preston telling the history of how White Lily became the last work of one of the artists on his creative team. That segues into Preston espousing the principle of tolerance, that he is willing to work with anyone, and is certainly a much more reliable and nonjudgmental person to work with than, say, Dynamite Comics if Cecil was interested. Forgiveness is good, and forgiveness in the name of shared business interests is merely an extension of Christian virtue.

As this concept is explored, at 20:40 of the video, Preston describes how he even sent a DM'd offer to Ro Kabir of Warcampaign about how, although their dislike was mutual, he was open to printing variant cover editions of Guinevere and the Divinity Factory with Warcampaign commissioned covers. Preston's reading of the Dynamite/Frog disaster, evidently, was that he sensed opportunity, where he could play the role of Nick Barrucci and Ro could assume the role of Frog. The fact that Warcampaign spent months in open revolt against the idea of being obliged to buy variant covers for people of questionable loyalty does not appear to have been accounted for in his mental calculus.

Warcampaign, according to Preston, put the matter of selling WC-approved Pocket Jacks Comics to a vote that failed to pass, although not unanimously as some like WC transvestite "Man of Sex"/"Gina" surprisingly voted yes to working with Preston, to which I invite the reader to offer up their own analysis. In any case, the effort was made in the objective pursuit of business.



However, the virtues of forgiveness fell on deaf ears for some. It turns out many people in "anti-CG" are not fond of Warcampaign and do not see the end goal of "making Preston money" as suitable justification for associating with the people that, in many cases, drove them from Comicsgate in the first place.

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As SWC leveled charges of high Judaism against Mecha McCheese for making pacts with the Deceiver, the theory was opened that many of these setbacks and conspiracies within were in fact engineered without, masterminded by @FROG as a diversion tactic to occupy his most hated enemies. The assembled crowd bayed for McCheese blood, which Mecha was not about to give. Internet battle was offered with sides and swords drawn on Youtube, both unloading vitriolic clips against one another on their respective channels.





Hoping for a hat trick, Doug worked to get both Roiloup and McCheese on the same stream, however three hours of shared conversation appear to have only paused hostilities until the stream ended.
 
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