#Comicsgate - The Culture Wars Hit The Funny Books!

[Flexo]

doesn't fit your narrative" is a weird phrasing to use when talking about the quality of fucking star trek streaming shows. Meyer is so brain broken by the "culture war" he thinks this is actual politics. Did anyone even watch Strange New Worlds?

Reminds me of a blog post I saw where the guy chewed Zack out. (Which makes it even funnier that he uses "gamma" unironically)

https://arkhavencomics.com/2023/02/27/i-dont-owe-them-a-chance/

What little patience I ever had with Ya Boi Zack is exhausted. He used to be a reasonably good source for keeping up with everything wrong with the comic book world. He was always a Gamma but lately, he’s been cucking out completely. He only attacks people on the Right for pursuing the culture war.​

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Never the Left. He’s pretending that executives at Woke corporations like Disney, don’t care about fans criticizing their propagantastic entertainment products. That it is the Right that is just too political.​

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Zach is firmly of the opinion that Picard season 3 has earned being given a chance on the grounds that they are at least half-assing it now.​

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Even after six years of Kurtzman Trek’s abusive Woke fail.​

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No.​

This guy worked at DC at one point? Can't tell from his tweets.

EVS? Yeah I could sperg about his Firestorm issues but that's some extreme autism.

 

[Captain Manning]

I am curious though, did Vito become Maddox 2.0 finally or do we have to wait further? Juju needs to decide so that EVS knows whether he is stuck with Vito long term or not.

At the moment, Juju and Vito are still together, with a number of people thinking the whole thing is a work.

You are also assuming that FROG is gonna base any decision on whether there is a falling out between Juju and Vito.

Remember, Vito still feuds with Eric July, and he's still got a comic book. While it's insane to have Vito in CG, FROG is single-minded these days. It's all about trying to destroy Eric July now. I dunno if he'd kick Vito to the curb just because Juju might.

He'll go with whatever one he thinks would get him the biggest army to continue to attack July. That might be Vito, but it also might be Juju and his attack dog Riley.

I have also speculated that if Vito leaves TBPITU, Juju might actually lose interest in July. All this shit started because Vito felt slighted by July. If not for that, Juju wouldn't have cared, Rekieta wouldn't have cared, and so on.

 

[Level99Manchild]

@FROG , remember when you, Zack, TSWG, and a bunch of other pathetic Comicsgate fags made Hail Salad? Well, that book sucked dick, and it wasn't worth the two-year wait. It's a book that aged very poorly.

This guy worked at DC at one point? Can't tell from his tweets.

And to think this guy was seen as an antisjw once with Just Some Guy Pedo and Zack. The antisjw scene has been looking bad lately.

 

[SteelPlatedHeart]

Remember, Vito still feuds with Eric July,

Can you really call it a feud when it’s completely one-sided? It’s essentially that “I don’t think about you at all” meme.

 

[Captain Manning]

Can you really call it a feud when it’s completely one-sided? It’s essentially that “I don’t think about you at all” meme.

I'll clarify:

Vito still flings shit at Eric July, and delays his comic, while Eric July largely ignores him and continues to make comic books that sell decently and ship on time.

IOW, he's like pretty much everybody else in CG. He fits like a glove.

 

[SteelPlatedHeart]

I'll clarify:

Vito still flings shit at Eric July, and delays his comic, while Eric July largely ignores him and continues to make comic books that sell decently and ship on time.

IOW, he's like pretty much everybody else in CG. He fits like a glove.

All that shit flinging was especially hilarious in hindsight when Vito released part of his comic only for it to get almost universally mocked for being shit.

As for Ol’ Froggy…

https://x.com/studentofgodd/status/1835282143003467845

 

[That Other Dude's Persona]

Some related comments.

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The guy who said "You're all grifters anyway" to Cider is unironically an RCM simp, I always see him in those community posts.
Let's hope hope he buys your books, Meyer.

 

[Captain Manning]

All that shit flinging was especially hilarious in hindsight when Vito released part of his comic only for it to get almost universally mocked for being shit.

Most CG comics are shit.

The funny thing about that Kittydog clip Cider posted is she's only NOW concerned about CG being embarrassed by Vito, because Vito has no compunctions about being critical of any of them.

It's funny because Vito's claim that Frog Tony's book is shit is actually a very rare occurrence of Vito not having a dogshit opinion for once. I agree with him on this one particular issue (he still, otherwise, deserves the rope... so don't think I've lost my mind). Vito was actually the least insufferable one in that exchange he had with Frog Tony. Again, for once.

Vito's not an embarrassment to CG because he's a pedo.
Vito's not an embarrassment to CG because his book is shit.
Vito's not an embarrassment to CG because it triggered Riley to harass July IRL.

No, all of that shit was perfectly fine according to CG.

Vito is suddenly an embarrassment to CG because he called a spade a spade for once.

"Comics people are weird." - @SaidNoOneEver

 

[That Other Dude's Persona]

Greg "Porn O face" Land
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Greg "The Tracer" Land has produced more memorable art than anyone in CG and most of the modern western mainstream industry (and I'm tired of pretending he hasn't).

The funny thing about that Kittydog clip Cider posted is she's only NOW concerned about CG being embarrassed by Vito, because Vito has no compunctions about being critical of any of them.

My favorite development was Frog Tony saying he has missed out on business opportunities because of Vito. I love these retards.

 

[Incecticyder]

Remember, Vito still feuds with Eric July, and he's still got a comic book. While it's insane to have Vito in CG, FROG is single-minded these days. It's all about trying to destroy Eric July now. I dunno if he'd kick Vito to the curb just because Juju might.

He'll go with whatever one he thinks would get him the biggest army to continue to attack July. That might be Vito, but it also might be Juju and his attack dog Riley.

That is the point. Vito is the kind of person that chases away supporters. You cannot want "the biggest army" and have the man who causes the army to shrink as a part of it. Question is how long will it take him to realise it.

No, all of that shit was perfectly fine according to CG.

Vito is suddenly an embarrassment to CG because he called a spade a spade for once.

EVS is the worst thing to happen to CG.

Greg "The Tracer" Land has produced more memorable art than anyone in CG and most of the modern western mainstream industry (and I'm tired of pretending he hasn't).

Produced? You mean copied.

 

[Jeb Bush]

No, I haven't gambled money that doesn't come from my YouTube show, which is my personal income. And I almost always win.

Come the fuck on, you kept bragging about trippeling the money you made from a convention at a casino, as the first thing you did upon return.

I'm not going through the hundreds of hours of you bitching about Eric July, to find and clip the right stream (that you probably deleted anyway), but here's the clip from Elisa, where the Kino Casino, reacts to someone elses clip of that stream. The gambling story, is in the second half.

Not saying you shouldn't gamble

just learn to make your lies less obvious and ideally also find some different topics. "Black man uses 3D assets and his comic is mid", isn't something that needs months worth of daily coverage.

 

[Captain Manning]

My favorite development was Frog Tony saying he has missed out on business opportunities because of Vito. I love these retards.

Yeah, no.

I'll give Vito marginal credit for having the balls to call Frog Tony's book shit, but Frog Tony ain't missing out on business deals just because the fat pedo is right for once. Nobody cares about Frog Tony, and nobody of import actually listens to Vito.

That is the point. Vito is the kind of person that chases away supporters. You cannot want "the biggest army" and have the man who causes the army to shrink as a part of it. Question is how long will it take him to realise it.

I don't think he fucking cares. Again, you don't seem to realize he now cares more about TND than the integrity of his dying hashtag movement. He's been losing people for a while now, and it doesn't seem to phase him any.

Frankly, I hope FROG keeps Vito around forever.

EVS is the worst thing to happen to CG.

CG is retarded. It always was to one degree or another. And it will likely always be regardless of who is in charge. The sooner you come to terms with that, the happier you'll be.

 

[Dafuqisdis?]

Reminds me of a blog post I saw where the guy chewed Zack out. (Which makes it even funnier that he uses "gamma" unironically)

https://arkhavencomics.com/2023/02/27/i-dont-owe-them-a-chance/

What little patience I ever had with Ya Boi Zack is exhausted. He used to be a reasonably good source for keeping up with everything wrong with the comic book world. He was always a Gamma but lately, he’s been cucking out completely. He only attacks people on the Right for pursuing the culture war.​

​

Never the Left. He’s pretending that executives at Woke corporations like Disney, don’t care about fans criticizing their propagantastic entertainment products. That it is the Right that is just too political.​

​

Zach is firmly of the opinion that Picard season 3 has earned being given a chance on the grounds that they are at least half-assing it now.​

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Even after six years of Kurtzman Trek’s abusive Woke fail.​

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No.​

EVS? Yeah I could sperg about his Firestorm issues but that's some extreme autism.

This is someone in Vox Day's orbit (Arkhaven is his comic imprint). So of course he repeats the Gamma terminology that Vox uses ceaselessly.

He's not wrong though.

 

[Incecticyder]

I don't think he fucking cares. Again, you don't seem to realize he now cares more about TND than the integrity of his dying hashtag movement. He's been losing people for a while now, and it doesn't seem to phase him any.

Frankly, I hope FROG keeps Vito around forever.

Just doublechecking to see if I understand the situation well. EVS seems to be focused singlemindendly on destroying Eric yet he does everything he should not do in order to succeed. Disecting the situation to makes sure you crossed your t and dot your i is important.

CG is retarded. It always was to one degree or another. And it will likely always be regardless of who is in charge. The sooner you come to terms with that, the happier you'll be.

For sure, but EVS made it so it is completely off its tits. Gone is the well-meaning but flawed consumer movement, now it is just a rotting, retard cult and that is upsetting.

 

[Mr. Zed da Robot Poon Fed]

I'll clarify:

Vito still flings shit at Eric July, and delays his comic, while Eric July largely ignores him and continues to make comic books that sell decently and ship on time.

IOW, he's like pretty much everybody else in CG. He fits like a glove.

Vito even set his own estimate dates in the update section and he couldn’t even reach those. He was supposed to be done with revisions in August, and now September’s here and he is still working on them. Unless that means changing all the dialogue lol.

 

[Olórin of Hype]

Oh yeah!
That European Lore guy.
He's a mouthy fella.
Oh well, his fascination with AMERICAN lore is pretty funny though.
Is Europe not as lorestuffed anymore friendo?

 

[Stupor Mario]

Oh yeah!
That European Lore guy.
He's a mouthy fella.
Oh well, his fascination with AMERICAN lore is pretty funny though.
Is Europe not as lorestuffed anymore friendo?

European Lore is like Ya Boi and the rest of these envious YouTube backstabbers. He gained minor notoriety for a brief time by riding the popularity surge of anti Rings of Power videos created by bigger YouTube channels. Then after season one ended and his viewership declined, EL started turning on those more successful channels that helped grow his channel by calling them grifter frauds the same way Zack is now.

 

[Fleetwood]

If he truly wanted to get into the industry, he should have stuck with Jawbreakers and made his publishing company Image for the right wing and centrists. BUT NOOO! He had to make it "The Zack Show" and only his ideas were allowed. Not only that but, despite having eyes and ears, he fails to notice that a straight white right of center marine is propably the last person Marvel and DC would hire right now. He could have something good going on but his autism and lack of business mentality went in the way.

There was a brief chance years ago for comicsgate to be right wing Image if Van Sciver, Meyer, Tenapel, Miller, Lim, Ernst. etc had made it an actual publishing company and produced books. The only way they all outdid image is by fighting with each other even more and being even later with books. Image was notoriously late but todays crowdfunders ( Image bros Fraga & Liefeld included ) are setting new standards for that.

If you honestly believe Richard C Meyer is capable of writing anything on the level of Sandman, The Invisibles, Transmetroplitan, or Preacher, you are either dented beyond capacity for rational thought or you are actually Zack. But I repeat myself.

He couldn't compete with the best of vertigo stuff but there were a ton of forgotten relegated to the cheap bins books there that suck almost as bad as comicssgate junk. Most of the authors though were already acclaimed britbongs. He wouldn't fit in.

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Has to do $10 million and doesn't own the comic (character?)?...fascinating.

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Just like YBZ @FROG can't see this all applies to his own company too but he never even made as much as ISOM #1.
The poster bitching about the Warcampaaign guys, like ok old news, choose at random one of 100+ shitty things Gat and Ro did. Anyone who joined CG after they left deserves to have them back now anyhow, why even warn them? I guess spite.

Vito even set his own estimate dates in the update section and he couldn’t even reach those. He was supposed to be done with revisions in August, and now September’s here and he is still working on them. Unless that means changing all the dialogue lol.

That's how you know Vito is Comicgate, same thing with all the CG losers. Wait till you see in the updates the book is at the printers for a year plus!

 

[Captain Manning]

There was a brief chance years ago for comicsgate to be right wing Image if Van Sciver, Meyer, Tenapel, Miller, Lim, Ernst. etc had made it an actual publishing company and produced books.

Any chance of that fell apart because Uncle Pieman didn't want it too right wing.

Tim and Mark made Trump books, and Doug hated the gays.

Granted, I actually agree with EVS that Doug was retarded in wanting to turn CG into an anti-gay social movement (especially considering I now believe Doug's a fake-ass Christian anyways), but I still don't understand... all these years later... why Ethan had an absolute shitfit over Lim's Trump books.

 

[jspit2.0]

Any chance of that fell apart because Uncle Pieman didn't want it too right wing.

Tim and Mark made Trump books, and Doug hated the gays.

Granted, I actually agree with EVS that Doug was retarded in wanting to turn CG into an anti-gay social movement (especially considering I now believe Doug's a fake-ass Christian anyways), but I still don't understand... all these years later... why Ethan had an absolute shitfit over Lim's Trump books.

Which Doug?

The Lim stuff was both a power play and a conflict on the ideal of what was wrong with modern comics. Frog bought into the Gamergate/fandom menace fallacy that if we pander to the center/left hard enough people won't call us bad words.

Tim Lim was a part of that initial Indie wave of grifters who buddied up to CG creators that got eclipsed by EVS. Lim resented that. At the time EVS had his own designs on coopting CG.

In GG, they really made a mistake. trying to find 'normie'. This mythical consoomer that loves troons and queers and is a Libshit, but also totally wants tiddys in vidya enough to risk getting called mean names. It failed. By trying to do that, they diluted themselves. Early comics gate and @FROG were obsessed with the 'normie' and not being pigeonholed as conservative on culture, while making countless grifter videos complaining about the culture. A CG Trump book was bad publicity because it was political and undermined the selling point that comics should be apolitical. I think they've walked that back, but that was the time and criticism.