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why is it always this way?
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#Comicsgate - The Culture Wars Hit The Funny Books!
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Please tell me he always had that and didn't get it to "own the Libs"
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Can you post an example of this?
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( I still haven't received my ashcans tier and first cover / issue but i could care less now )
Here's a very low effort example of a page : (Let's be honest, it's only a photography of a planet that he not only didn't draw, on the top of a stock photo of stars that only his colorist made the smallest amount of effort copy pasting on a full page, talk about "doing the work of my life huh" when you are so lazy for one page)
It's so jarring that even his drawing on top of the picture on the last panel feels out of place.
Another example of very very low effort drawing on one page with a lot of "space" : (there is barely any drawing but photoshop filters and a bunch of 3D effects)
Another sample of slightly less "low effort" but still is very lazy, also notice the moon hasn't been corrected in the final print, yes, it's still like that, i didn't put in all my scanned pages because my scanner is only A4 but i'll take the extra effort to scan this page for you :
(yes, lol, you see it right. the moon is still cut by the cables in the final print, and i remember Ethan stating ON stream this will be corrected before the final, clearly it's not.)
Here's one illustration spread on top of two pages :
Another 2 page spread :
(And there are at least 4 double page spread that are completely "retarded" and provide nothing like these in the book)
Example of 1 drawing taking one full page (and there are numerous pages like this in the 46 to 44 pages of "true" story, while the 20 first of them are more or less a recap of previous events, truely.
Out of the 20 pages of recap and the last 24 pages of real boring "story" you have to also discount huge retarded chapter pages with a whole lot of nothing, separating what is left of these pages into three chapters with 3 black pages with one retarded cyberfrog face on it, each one has the same cyberfrog face / drawing in the dark on them :
Also notice the poor quality of the ink and how ink is already bleeding out and making all kind of nasty wobbles like the pages never had enough grain or absorption quality to take it in. (you can easily see it on the chapter page, all the pages are slightly wobbly like that, it was printed on the cheap).
Also, the 16 - 20 last pages or so is just a contest of self masturbating ego rehashing OLD / previous drawings from his previous books and talking about how great his shit is. ( not so humble man, at the very least, i may say to myself. )
Taking two pages for this :
And yes i feel cucked, i'm a cuck to have put any money in this trash, but at least i have the balls to speak out.
HEY LOOK LEL IT S A BONUS PAGE TO STEAL YOU SOME OF YOUR 88 promised PAGES that are in reality less than 80 because i put some of my OLD drawings in it for the SCAM.
And warning you about this scam in the form of a page ACCOUNTS FOR ONE PAGE ALSO AIN'T IT GREAT ?
You know what i'm gonna do because you love me so much as cuckboi's fans ?
I will add one of my drawing board, blue page as a front fake cover and one at the end so it counts as 4 pages too in this already not so FILLED comic book and try to steal a few more pages out of the bargain again !
Am i not generous enough to you ? Cuckboi's ?
Not real you say ? Look at this : (not even a guard page or a chapter page either and the back of it is just white LOL feel cucked yet ?
I don't know... But looking at how much this book tries to "save" any effort and sell you huge pages of nothing feels pretty scum... funny to me.
Now we will surely hear "gonna suw you bcauz you are part of the force working outside of CG ! They try to put us down ! They try to attack us because they anus" shit on Ethan livestreams everytime he needs a new enemy to project on. While his worst enemies truely are "within"...
Realizing they finally are...
Only his own ex-cuckstomers.
No boogieman coming from outside.
But i learnt some important lesson nonetheless in the process.
Should have listened to SWC.
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This is why I read here, I value real criticism. This is not how I want people to see me at all.
WhimsicalTrolli
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Isn't he the discount ranbot for Ethan?
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Wenger is really entertaining. The problem with him has always been the quality of his audio and camera/connection. If you're going to talk at the speed of Eeyore, make sure it at least comes in clearly.
I have no problem with 2 page spreads when the art is good, and Sciver's generally is. A lot of the problems have nothing to do with the art, though when you flip through the book you see an inordinate amount of black which is a bit lazy as you said, and he has admitted to being called out for this before which makes it confounding. I think he relies too much on Kyle Ritter filling in empty space.
This book was constantly promoted as being 80+ pages, and having 25% of it being taken up by "bonus material" and another third of it being devoted to recapping/origin/retcon is bunk. That material could have easily expanded the ashcan or Amphibionix, and origin stuff seems unneeded when he's planning to release the collected volumes of Cyberfrog as another campaign. What's the price-point of that going to be I wonder?
All of these livestream trash talk sessions come off as desperate. EVS and 5 others spent over 3 hours "destroying" a 10 minute video Doug TenNapel made. That's 18 hours of possible productivity between them wasted.
I can't help but think part of this hate they keep throwing at Doug is preemptive damage control for when Earthworm Jim gets shipped a month early. A 160 page hardcover graphic novel and 96 page hardcover ashcan shipped on-time and for the same price that these other artists are charging for 50 page floppies that end up 10 months late.
Comicsgate likes to flap their fucking heads endlessly about respecting the fans/customers. Well I think giving the customer something actually worth their money and getting it to them when you promised shows a lot more respect than the bufoonery the Ethan corner of CG is doing.
His own book misprinted his name, "Schiver" lol. Also, does he know Van means "from?" He's not from Sciver, he's from Jersey or something. How pretentious can these people get demanding an extra syllable in their last name?!
I have no problem with 2 page spreads when the art is good, and Sciver's generally is. A lot of the problems have nothing to do with the art, though when you flip through the book you see an inordinate amount of black which is a bit lazy as you said, and he has admitted to being called out for this before which makes it confounding. I think he relies too much on Kyle Ritter filling in empty space.
This book was constantly promoted as being 80+ pages, and having 25% of it being taken up by "bonus material" and another third of it being devoted to recapping/origin/retcon is bunk. That material could have easily expanded the ashcan or Amphibionix, and origin stuff seems unneeded when he's planning to release the collected volumes of Cyberfrog as another campaign. What's the price-point of that going to be I wonder?
All of these livestream trash talk sessions come off as desperate. EVS and 5 others spent over 3 hours "destroying" a 10 minute video Doug TenNapel made. That's 18 hours of possible productivity between them wasted.
I can't help but think part of this hate they keep throwing at Doug is preemptive damage control for when Earthworm Jim gets shipped a month early. A 160 page hardcover graphic novel and 96 page hardcover ashcan shipped on-time and for the same price that these other artists are charging for 50 page floppies that end up 10 months late.
Comicsgate likes to flap their fucking heads endlessly about respecting the fans/customers. Well I think giving the customer something actually worth their money and getting it to them when you promised shows a lot more respect than the bufoonery the Ethan corner of CG is doing.
His own book misprinted his name, "Schiver" lol. Also, does he know Van means "from?" He's not from Sciver, he's from Jersey or something. How pretentious can these people get demanding an extra syllable in their last name?!
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Just putting this up here, but seems to me Eehee has lied and he has been lately calling for others he is accusing of lying to apologize. So..... does that mean Eehee is going to apologize for his lies? I am betting he won't and even if he does.... should anyone believe it? I know I wouldn't.
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It's not fair to compare YBZ Jawbreakers books due to the chicanery involved in Lost Souls. He was on track for about 170k when the secret facebook comic retailer boycott was discovered and announced, which boosted sales by about 20k and on track for mid 190k. The TI by waid gained him some conservative press and doubled his sales from fuck you money. He finished up the 2nd campaign at +~30k and +~50k to date if you remove the controversy. I don't know how IS2 will go, but it'll probably do fine.
Manwithn0n0men
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Like Mike's art is mid tier. His stories are low tier. I am kind of interest in his non lonestar content but his bad attitude is turning me off
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( I still haven't received my ashcans tier and first cover / issue but i could care less now )
Here's a very low effort example of a page : (Let's be honest, it's only a photography of a planet that he not only didn't draw, on the top of a stock photo of stars that only his colorist made the smallest amount of effort copy pasting on a full page, talk about "doing the work of my life huh" when you are so lazy for one page)
It's so jarring that even his drawing on top of the picture on the last panel feels out of place.
Another example of very very low effort drawing on one page with a lot of "space" : (there is barely any drawing but photoshop filters and a bunch of 3D effects)
Another sample of slightly less "low effort" but still is very lazy, also notice the moon hasn't been corrected in the final print, yes, it's still like that, i didn't put in all my scanned pages because my scanner is only A4 but i'll take the extra effort to scan this page for you :
(yes, lol, you see it right. the moon is still cut by the cables in the final print, and i remember Ethan stating ON stream this will be corrected before the final, clearly it's not.)
Here's one illustration spread on top of two pages :
Another 2 page spread :
(And there are at least 4 double page spread that are completely "exceptional" and provide nothing like these in the book)
Example of 1 drawing taking one full page (and there are numerous pages like this in the 46 to 44 pages of "true" story, while the 20 first of them are more or less a recap of previous events, truely.
Out of the 20 pages of recap and the last 24 pages of real boring "story" you have to also discount huge exceptional chapter pages with a whole lot of nothing, separating what is left of these pages into three chapters with 3 black pages with one exceptional cyberfrog face on it, each one has the same cyberfrog face / drawing in the dark on them :
Also notice the poor quality of the ink and how ink is already bleeding out and making all kind of nasty wobbles like the pages never had enough grain or absorption quality to take it in. (you can easily see it on the chapter page, all the pages are slightly wobbly like that, it was printed on the cheap).
Also, the 16 - 20 last pages or so is just a contest of self masturbating ego rehashing OLD / previous drawings from his previous books and talking about how great his shit is. ( not so humble man, at the very least, i may say to myself. )
Taking two pages for this :
And yes i feel cucked, i'm a cuck to have put any money in this trash, but at least i have the balls to speak out.
HEY LOOK LEL IT S A BONUS PAGE TO STEAL YOU SOME OF YOUR 88 promised PAGES that are in reality less than 80 because i put some of my OLD drawings in it for the SCAM.
And warning you about this scam in the form of a page ACCOUNTS FOR ONE PAGE ALSO AIN'T IT GREAT ?
You know what i'm gonna do because you love me so much as cuckboi's fans ?
I will add one of my drawing board, blue page as a front fake cover and one at the end so it counts as 4 pages too in this already not so FILLED comic book and try to steal a few more pages out of the bargain again !
Am i not generous enough to you ? Cuckboi's ?
Not real you say ? Look at this : (not even a guard page or a chapter page either and the back of it is just white LOL feel cucked yet ?
I don't know... But looking at how much this book tries to "save" any effort and sell you huge pages of nothing feels pretty scum... funny to me.
Now we will surely hear "gonna suw you bcauz you are part of the force working outside of CG ! They try to put us down ! They try to attack us because they anus" shit on Ethan livestreams everytime he needs a new enemy to project on. While his worst enemies truely are "within"...
Realizing they finally are...
Only his own ex-cuckstomers.
No boogieman coming from outside.
But i learnt some important lesson nonetheless in the process.
Should have listened to SWC.
Thank you for answer my question, I see your point about the moon and the dark spaces.
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WhimsicalTrolli
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So evs was talking about how the coins failed and they don't want merchandise and how they want the books, well maybe Ethan if you fulfilled the books then maybe more people would buy the merchandise of cyber frog.
Manwithn0n0men
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No one actually wants coins....wrong crowd for coins.
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I didn't even want fucking merch.
I just wanted the book, and had to pick the one with the least amount of shit that would just collect dust.
Manwithn0n0men
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How many people are reading cyberfrog who are coin collectors?
How many people who read Cyberfrog are ex military bikers?
those are the audiences for the coin @FROG
Action figures, shirts, posters are the core merch you can grind out [buttons and key chains. Maybe a plushy doll line]
TheSoutherStar
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Some people are saying that mike made this poll to be divisive but I am sure the reason is much simpler. Mike is in a pretty rough financial state given he is living in san diego with 4+ kids. I’m certain he created the poll so he has some sense of reassurance that he is doing what he thinks is the correct business decision. He’s gotta have some anxiety after publicly and loudly turning his back on such a large following.
Tl;dr: the poll will help him sleep at night
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DSP Mike has tried several avenues of making money without being comicsgate. First it was working for Geeks and Gamers but his videos were shit so he tried getting the outrage bucks by putting Lonestar on Kickstarter. After it was rejected (like everyone predicted as it was Kickstarter after all), he used articles from Dailywire to get the outrage money.
Manwithn0n0men
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Could he have maybe made a poll that actually was remotely well constructed or told him the information he thinks it does?