#Comicsgate - The Culture Wars Hit The Funny Books!

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TUG almost made Spectre seem like a normal person in comparison.
Nah, Spectre is a faggot. The reason why he likely can't remember if he told TUG's wife to kill herself is because Spectre has said that to a lot of different people. Spectre has a façade when it comes to the issue of suicide. He has falsely claimed he's worked as a metal health volunteer at the VA, and if you read his thread you'll find the hilarious story of him claiming he desperately tried to save Apollo Legend's life. His proof? He called the police RECORDS department AFTER HOURS. and then showed a screenshot of his call log to try and shut people up. He only wanted to attach his name to Apollo Legend's death.

Like @FROG, I'd also let out some slack in TUG's chain if I were faced with them going at each other over that subject.

Now when it comes to @Spectre_06, he is a known and well documented liar and dumbass, so much so that he has his own thread on the farms that even Null seems to check up on.
All of those things are equally true of TUG.
No, they're not. I know you're way smarter than this @Strix454.

Spectre's thread is meticulously researched, had the additional burden of having to go through Null to get a halal, and even survived a gay op attempt to get it taken down.

TUG's thread is... complete and utter dogshit. Just look at it. It barely even qualifies as a thread. @5t3n0g0ph3r has explained why. Nobody seems inclined to do anything about it either.

Unlike Spectre, I doubt Null knows who TUG is. He certainly didn't halal TUG (nor would he need to). It's been said by some that Null barely tolerates Weebwars. Spectre's biggest mistake on Kiwifarms was trying to shit up the corn harvest in the Gunt subforum, where Null most certainly DID notice him in a decidedly not positive way. I actually credit THAT, more than anything, for why he has a thread. Because ultimately it needed Null's permission to happen.

Those two threads could not possibly be any more different than one another.

Spectre wasn't wrong in thinking that if he attacked the right people, provided useful content to certain people and made himself useful to the right people that he could become one of the good guys.
He probably thought that, but what actually happened was very different. And, dare I say, a credit to CG.

Having been cast out of the Vikkiverse, Spectre thought that it would be a good idea to go over to Ethan's stream as they were e-fapping the fight between him and Vikki. He's got to remain involved somehow. After spamming the chat with his usual know-it-all retard bullshit, @FROG invited him on. Instead of being hailed as the "conquering hero of Vikkiverse" (which is what he probably expected), they metaphorically dragged him into a dark ally and beat the shit out of him (though TUG did most of the beating, and Ethan and YF seemed to be holding him down).

Then, after Ethan basically showed him the door, Wiggle (an Army vet) comes in and pisses on him some more by streaming the famous General Mattis video, and the DD-214 from his thread, that proves Spectre is stolen valor. Thus answering their earlier question about stolen valor that Spectre sheepishly dodged.

Video is queued up to the part with Wiggle:


The beauty of this is that if you're team-Vikki, you probably found this funny. If you're team-CG, you probably also found it funny. And if you don't give a shit either way, you probably STILL found it funny. Everybody wins.

Spectre being rehabilitated is no more insane than a lowlife cow like TUG becoming a figure of respect that people apologize to. It would not be shocking at this point if there were a long series of posts by people explaining how they got TUG all wrong. There would be admiration for how TUG dealt with all the bad people who smeared his good name and lied about what happened to his mailbox. Because Vikki.
Well, if it makes you feel better, I'll tell you right now that I have no intentions of doing any of that.

Though I must say, I have been kind of ambivalent about TUG for a long time time now. I think a lot of people are. That's WHY his thread is in the state it's in.
 
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No, they're not. I know you're way smarter than this @Strix454.
Well. You are also way smarter and have been around way long to know the actual reasons why there is no work on the OP for TUG. Its not because TUG isn't a cow, its because TUG has transitioned to being a boring guy who pushes celebrity gossip to women. TUG has become a historical subject rather than something with upside potential for future material. The question at that point becomes why spend the time where there are better things to be done.

But that doesn't make TUG a good guy or change his history.
 
This just dropped apparently PODS recorded a 2 hour vc slapfight between @VIkkiVerse and @Spectre_06 on the ethics of flagging or something.
So the gist of the debate is Vikki now unemployable after poorly expressing dog's anal glands takes up the very smart career choice of being daddy gym by repeating the phrase gay ops every other sentence of this 2 hour debate. Here is a small sampling.
 
Not quite.
Back in the early days of TUG's youtube career, he would regularly have his daughter go on livestreams to beg for superchats and sell crayon drawings made by her. I suspect TUG retardedly thought he was just sharing the schmalzy, monetizeable love that a bunch of doting grandmas might have for his adorable kid. What actually happened though was TUG wound up gathering a small coterie of simps around his six year old daughter. This all came to a head when a member of TUG's daughter fanbase, "SlickJimmyLove", managed to get on a livestream with TUG's catfishing wife and seized the chance to express his true feelings.


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Soon after this incident TUG seems to have decided that presenting his child for the enjoyment of random internet strangers was perhaps a bad idea, and LUG appreciation stopped being a regular feature on his show. TUG went on to have a successful career as an outrage peddling youtuber, TUG's wife had a good run cybersexing various Comicsgaters in the Warcampaign discord voice chat while TUG slept in the adjacent room and SlickJimmy split from CG around 2019 only to get charged with downloading 2,905 pieces of CP.

Anyways if you point any of this out, that amounts to causing TUG's family stress, which is tantamount to trying to murder his family.
I'm guessing the argument here is whether he was "pimping out his daughter to Slick Jimmy," or whether he was showing some highly questionable parenting, and Slick Jimmy took advantage of that?

With the additional context, @Analog Devolved's comment does make a bit more sense now. You just have to explain the full context. Otherwise it would sound like TUG knowingly let a pedo interact with his daughter. A claim which is probably harder to support, and could seem like alogging.

But that doesn't make TUG a good guy or change his history.
I never meant to suggest it would. You won't see my saying otherwise just because Vikki has become a cow. I merely take issue with saying the Spectre thread is like the TUG thread.

To that point, I'd certainly throw my support behind @Analog Devolved if he's willing to fix that shitass OP. I've long held that it needs to be fixed and moved out of WW. I believe @5t3n0g0ph3r has said he'd love to have it moved out if that can be done.
 
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I'm guessing the argument here is whether he was "pimping out his daughter to Slick Jimmy," or whether he was showing some highly questionable parenting on the, and Slick Jimmy took advantage of that?
While I find UmbrellaGuy shockingly amoral at times, even I have to give him the benefit of the doubt that he didn't knowingly expose his daughter to pedophiles for $5-10 superchats and only did so out of greed-fueled stupidity.
 
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You were doing so well....

Until you ventured into alog faggotry.

It's half-shitpost, half-true.
I think Jimmy was commenting on artwork created by TUG's daughter (if I remember it was a perk for TUG's second book) and Jimmy was associated early ComicsGate with TUG & EVS. Jimmy got busted last year.
When you listen to the audio it sounds like slick Jimmy sent them gifts that they accepted and he sent superchats then you find out Jimmy had a creepy ass dollhouse and awful material.

The truth is we don't know the extent SJL was able to obtain because the gifts were exchanged privately.

We know from tugs wife and Jimmy that there WAS contact.

Also RIP to my lil homie @TheLaughingMan you made me laugh.
 
Sorry I'm not a winner like you and I have no idea who this guy is.
You would if he had a proper thread. I think that's what we're all kvetching about. TUG stories are now mainly passed from Kiwi to Kiwi as if we were employing Native American oral history, instead of being written down and centralized.

To recap, TUG did a LOT of stupid lolcow shit last decade, but he's been boring for the past two years or so, so nobody can seemingly be arsed to go back and properly catalog all of it. He basically seems to spend his days shilling his comics, and doing Amber Heard videos for the clickbait revenue. Neither of which is very exciting.

To me, personally, it doesn't really matter. Spectre is a lowcow notwithstanding the fact so is TUG. It's not a zero-sum game. 🤷‍♂️
 
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While I find UmbrellaGuy shockingly amoral at times, even I have to give him the benefit of the doubt that he didn't knowingly expose his daughter to pedophiles for $5-10 superchats and only did so out of greed-fueled stupidity.
I cannot and will likely never understand people who allow their children to be exposed to an audience of complete strangers on the internet - no matter the context - and yet it happens constantly with many different types of people and groups. Even bringing up your kids to such an audience should provoke one of two emotions, and "the joy of sharing" should not be one of them.

TUG stories and now mainly passed from Kiwi to Kiwi as if it were employing Native American oral history
As evidenced in this thread for sure and it speaks to the ambivalence you mentioned, which I'd have to say I fall into. I'm a relative newcomer to TUG lore, thought he did ok as a "moderator" for recent "debates" and found his appearance on recent efaps of tard streams to be perfectly fine. He seemed to have a good "still waters run deep" thing going. An actual therapist as chronically-ineffective conflict mediator for a grab bag of borderlines and other certifiable mental cases could be a legit great angle (like Rekeita and the drive-by lawfaggotry). Sadly, TUG allowed himself to become the subject to some extent and that's tragic.
 
An actual therapist as chronically-ineffective conflict mediator for a grab bag of borderlines and other certifiable mental cases could be a legit great angle (like Rekeita and the drive-by lawfaggotry).
@Ken Jennings is the closest we have here.
He did an analysis of @Ron Toye and Ron flipped out over it.
That was funny.
He's also done one on @theralph.
 
What was the name of TUG's midget A-log and how did people know he was a midget?
That would be @TheLaughingMan, and people came to know he was a midget because TUG revenge-doxed him after he leaked Mailbox Matt's facebook page. Eventually though he confirmed the dox as accurate.

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(laughingman sperging, power leveling and probably a bunch of other haram shit in the TUG thread as usual)

TUG continued to angrily and publicly rail against his KF archenemy for years in what was some choice TUG-vs-little person action; his wife would drip-drop his dox through her catfish account (either at TUG's behest or not), and completely unrelated people who shared the name would be reflexively banned by TUG on suspicion of being TLM.

Eventually though as TUG moved on from doing pointless retarded embarassing crap in Weeb Wars to be a full-time boring Johnny Depp gossip peddler, @TheLaughingMan too moved on from a-logging TUG to enjoy what were to be the final years in his all-too short life with things like being a creepy human laugh track for the Trash Compactor show, and a-logging @Mecha II. But I'm sure somewhere down in Kiwi heaven, TheLaughingMan is looking up at TUG returning to form by threatening to beat Spectre to death with his trademark unsettling chuckle. RIP
 
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