#Comicsgate - The Culture Wars Hit The Funny Books!

[A nameless trool]

Exactly. If Ethan will be forever associated with Wascampaign faggotry, Ernst is forever associated with this mush mouthed retard. Fair is fair. Double moral standards are infuriating to me. Shouldn't really matter if anyone likes or dislikes FROG.

One could wonder how much angry 2017 YBZ that ripped books apart was the original Hut to (then respectable pro) EVS...

 

[Mister Dongs]

What info has he been feeding Hutt for 3 years?

Where is Doug getting this inside info on Ethan that he was disseminating through Hutt?

If all this was true Dongs would have had regular essays out breaking down the latest info that Hutt mysteriously got from his super secret source.

Yeah, uh, guess I really dropped the ball here boys.

 

[Absurdity]

If anybody starts a lolsuit over being criticized no matter how harshly, they will have gone full Poulter/Waid. At least with Pressedin, he had a sex tape to lie about not leaking himself. What exactly about what Hutt did to Ernst or what Ernst did to Frog that was stealing money?

 

[The Coon]

If anybody starts a lolsuit over being criticized no matter how harshly, they will have gone full Poulter/Waid. At least with Pressedin, he had a sex tape to lie about not leaking himself. What exactly about what Hutt did to Ernst or what Ernst did to Frog that was stealing money?

Yea I don't see any reason to throw money at lawyers for this. They are the only ones who will gain anything. If either side want to go through with it, just give your lawyer money to charity instead, that way maybe something good will come of it. I think both Doug and @FROG are barking. People throw out the lawsuit word to try and silence critics, but are too poor or smart to actually go through with it. The only people that follow through are retards like Peggy or people who are super rich and just want to do it out of spite or for shits and giggles.

 

[Newman's Own]

Not that @FROG 's sperging on livestreams makes him look particularly good, but Ernst was actually the first one to threaten a LOLsuit here.

Did Ernst threaten to sue @FROG or Hutt with this tweet? "If laws are broken."



The appropriate individual would be Hutt since Hutt is the originator of the claim. I haven't been following but I doubt Ethan has said anything actionable legally. But if Hutt's lying about Doug "controlling him" then that's a different story.

I mean sending clips to a YouTuber isn't a gay op. Are we supposed to believe that Hutt gave control of his channel to Ernst and that Ernst was scripting Hutt's stuff?

Doug was a full time journalist while this was happening., he was running his own YT channel, wrote and delivered two comic campaigns, family life...

... AND he was creating all of Hutt's content for him in Hutt's own voice???

I can see him clipping the occasional video for Hutt but I have a hard time believing he was operating Hutt like a puppet the whole time and running Hutt's channel for him.

How many videos was Hutt putting out a week that Doug was supposed to be writing for him or whatever? How many videos does Doug put out on his own channel?

Hutt has never struck me as the kind of sperg who hands control of his channel over to a 'mastermind manipulator' like Doug Ernst. LOL

He struck me more like that veteran WarCampaign sperg with the head injury (can't remember his name). Volatile, emotional, mentally unstable, idiotic and beyond anyone's control.

Doug Ernst must have a shit ton of secret charisma I didn't notice to have turned a lunatic like Hutt into his willing slave for three years.

Or Hutt's crowd funder went tits up and he blamed it on others and made up a story hoping Ethan would pick it up and help him sell his comic book.

I know Doug is mostly bald under that ball cap but he doesn't strike me as the Lex Luther type. Isn't this a rehash of the Doug TenNaple LOD conspiracy theory?

Then again, it's not like Hutt is a bullshit artist prone to spreading nonsense on his channel so maybe I've got it all wrong and Doug Ernst is a secret genius super villain.

Seems unlikely but I guess it's a more interesting story than Doug sent a few videos to Hutt.

I dunno, I haven't been neck deep in CG spergery for the last six months. Maybe this grand narrative makes sense and I just can't see it.

Have fun.

 

[Miniluv]

I mean sending clips to a YouTuber isn't a gay op. Are we supposed to believe that Hutt gave control of his channel to Ernst and that Ernst was scripting Hutt's stuff?

Doug was a full time journalist while this was happening., he was running his own YT channel, wrote and delivered two comic campaigns, family life...

... AND he was creating all of Hutt's content for him in Hutt's own voice???

I can see him clipping the occasional video for Hutt but I have a hard time believing he was operating Hutt like a puppet the whole time and running Hutt's channel for him.

I'm not sure where you're getting the idea that Hut "gave control of his channel" to Ernst or that he was "creating all of Hut's content". I don't think anyone, even Hut, is making this claim.

How many videos was Hutt putting out a week that Doug was supposed to be writing for him or whatever? How many videos does Doug put out on his own channel?

Hutt has never struck me as the kind of sperg who hands control of his channel over to a 'mastermind manipulator' like Doug Ernst. LOL

Nobody's really sure of the exact number of videos Ernst engineered for Hut. All we have so far is Hut's screenshot of his inbox showing Ernst sending him video content with ready made titles for Hut to distribute, along with Hut's claim that he doesn't have the skill, knowledge, or equipment to manipulate and edit video packages, which I find extremely easy to believe as he is a retard. Hut says he has much more evidence of deeper involvement and I suspect he's be able to give us a clearer picture of exactly how many videos Ernst edited and scripted for him. When he comes out of hiding, he may let more shit spill. Until then, it's all speculation.

Ethan said if you see a Hut video about a CG personality with any video editing/manipulation, it's likely something to do with Ernst since the other Hut vids are mainly just his talking potato head and that seems plausible to me. With that in mind, it would probably be easier to get an accurate number by going to Hut's channel and counting up the videos that meet the criteria of "about CG and competently edited" but that's not possible since Hut went DFE on a lot of the anti-CG stuff. One could also assume that if he only deleted the videos that Ernst provided, we could compare his total number of videos before he squealed and after and that the difference would be closer to the total number of Ernst authored videos.

Doug Ernst must have a shit ton of secret charisma I didn't notice to have turned a lunatic like Hutt into his willing slave for three years.

Or Hutt's crowd funder went tits up and he blamed it on others and made up a story hoping Ethan would pick it up and help him sell his comic book.

I know Doug is mostly bald under that ball cap but he doesn't strike me as the Lex Luther type. Isn't this a rehash of the Doug TenNaple LOD conspiracy theory?

Then again, it's not like Hutt is a bullshit artist prone to spreading nonsense on his channel so maybe I've got it all wrong and Doug Ernst is a secret genius super villain.

Dude, how much charisma and secret genius intellect do you honestly think it takes to manipulate a friendless retard? This situation is so lulzy precisely because Ernst wasted time and energy using a mongoloid to fling shit at CG. This was a dumb idea executed by stupid people, not a Lex Luthor level plot by any stretch of the imagination. Less Moriarty, more Wile E. Coyote.

All it took was for Mr. Professional Journalist and Successful Indie Comic Creator to be nice to Hut. That's literally it. Hut was probably so fucking grateful and excited to be part of the Major League He-Man Ethan Haters Club he would have done anything for Ernst. Listen to how many times Hut talks about how he thought Ernst was his friend. He's a lonely, borderline retarded, near middle aged guy who likely still lives in his childhood home where he talks about comics on YouTube. Being in kahoots with the Iconic guys was the equivalent of being asked to the prom by the entire cheerleading squad in Hut's world.

Any theory you have about this situation that requires a modicum of cunning, guile, or cleverness on Hut's part can probably be safely discarded.

 

[Absurdity]

The appropriate individual would be Hutt since Hutt is the originator of the claim. I haven't been following but I doubt Ethan has said anything actionable legally. But if Hutt's lying about Doug "controlling him" then that's a different story.

I mean sending clips to a YouTuber isn't a gay op. Are we supposed to believe that Hutt gave control of his channel to Ernst and that Ernst was scripting Hutt's stuff?

Doug was a full time journalist while this was happening., he was running his own YT channel, wrote and delivered two comic campaigns, family life...

... AND he was creating all of Hutt's content for him in Hutt's own voice???

I can see him clipping the occasional video for Hutt but I have a hard time believing he was operating Hutt like a puppet the whole time and running Hutt's channel for him.

How many videos was Hutt putting out a week that Doug was supposed to be writing for him or whatever? How many videos does Doug put out on his own channel?

Hutt has never struck me as the kind of sperg who hands control of his channel over to a 'mastermind manipulator' like Doug Ernst. LOL

He struck me more like that veteran WarCampaign sperg with the head injury (can't remember his name). Volatile, emotional, mentally unstable, idiotic and beyond anyone's control.

Doug Ernst must have a shit ton of secret charisma I didn't notice to have turned a lunatic like Hutt into his willing slave for three years.

Or Hutt's crowd funder went tits up and he blamed it on others and made up a story hoping Ethan would pick it up and help him sell his comic book.

I know Doug is mostly bald under that ball cap but he doesn't strike me as the Lex Luther type. Isn't this a rehash of the Doug TenNaple LOD conspiracy theory?

Then again, it's not like Hutt is a bullshit artist prone to spreading nonsense on his channel so maybe I've got it all wrong and Doug Ernst is a secret genius super villain.

Seems unlikely but I guess it's a more interesting story than Doug sent a few videos to Hutt.

I dunno, I haven't been neck deep in CG spergery for the last six months. Maybe this grand narrative makes sense and I just can't see it.

Have fun.

But then it was Cummings who actually sent the screenshots, right? So if Hutt made up the narrative whole-cloth, Captain would have had to have been a co-conspirator. Cummings might be unhinged but I don't think he'd have any interest in that. The way it looks to me is that Doug would pre slice and dice the clips and maybe an outline of talking points, but I don't buy for a minute this was thrust upon Christopher. I think Christopher probably asked for help and Doug not being a fan of Frog & Co. obliged perhaps using the opportunity to seed speculation or at least to chip away at the edges of CG until something was ripe for an exposé.

My theory has Doug wasting a lot of energy for minimal returns so that Hutt might one day become useful (which he never did) with Hutt as viewing Doug as a stepping stone into a career into comics and Youtube and nothing more. Such was Hutt's complete arrogance that after all that help, he couldn't tolerate any failure for his very first crowdfunding campaign for his very first comic book.

A frequent thing people tend to do when they look at someone with low IQ like this is they tend to use it to explain away the bad things they do. Hutt's final play is one of a not very bright narcissist who is just now learning that you can't burn the bridges you're still standing on. If I were to explain it to Mr. White I would say Doug's sin was that of the racing hare so comfortable in his lead that he decided to start planting a magical giant briar bush along the side of the track to irritate the bloated frog in a shiny metal tortoise shell he was racing against going 10 feet an hour. But every time he crossed the finish line he immediately came back to trim the giant briar until he finally got wrapped up in the same thorny stems he planted because he spent too much time prepping an obstacle course with a big dumb prick instead of just being content with crossing the finish line many times over.

 

[Analog Devolved]

I'm not sure where you're getting the idea that Hut "gave control over his channel" to Ernst or that he was "creating all of Hut's content". I don't think anyone, even Hut, is making this claim.


Nobody's really sure of the exact number of videos Ernst engineered for Hut. All we have so far is Hut's screenshot of his inbox showing Ernst sending him video content with ready made titles for Hut to distribute, along with Hut's claim that he doesn't have the skill, knowledge, or equipment to manipulate and edit video packages, which I find extremely easy to believe as he is a retard. Hut says he has much more evidence of deeper involvement and I suspect he's be able to give us a clearer picture of exactly how many videos Ernst edited and scripted for him. When he comes out of hiding, he may let more shit spill. Until then, it's all speculation.

Ethan said if you see a Hut video about a CG personality with any video editing/manipulation, it's likely something to do with Ernst since the other Hut vids are mainly just his talking potato head and that seems plausible to me. With that in mind, it would probably be easier to get an accurate number by going to Hut's channel and counting up the videos that meet the criteria of "about CG and competently edited" but that's not possible since Hut went DFE on a lot of the anti-CG stuff. One could also assume that if he only deleted the videos that Ernst provided, we could compare his total number of videos before he squealed and after and that the difference would be closer to the total number of Ernst authored videos.


Dude, how much charisma and secret genius intellect do you honestly think it takes to manipulate a friendless retard? This situation is so lulzy precisely because Ernst wasted time and energy using a mongoloid to fling shit at CG. This was a dumb idea executed by stupid people, not a Lex Luthor level plot by any stretch of the imagination.

All it took was for Mr. Professional Journalist and Successful Indie Comic Creator to be nice to Hut. That's literally it. Hut was probably so fucking grateful and excited to be part of the Major League He-Man Ethan Haters Club he would have done anything for Ernst. Listen to how many times Hut talks about how he thought Ernst was his friend. He's a lonely, borderline retarded, near middle aged guy who likely still lives in his childhood home where he talks about comics on YouTube. Being in kahoots with the Iconic guys was the equivalent of being asked to the prom by the entire cheerleading squad in Hut's world.

Any theory you have about this situation that requires a modicum of cunning, guile, or cleverness on Hut's part can probably be safely discarded.

The idea that Hut engineered this massive gay op alone is ridiculous and I agree that he is a fat retard too stupid to cook up all this shit without help.

Did Ernst enable a retard? Yes. That's pretty much a given.

What does Hut get out of this? Attention. Friendship. Free video editing.

If the gay ops really extend beyond sperging on youtube I'd be surprised. Fuck mitch breitweiser guy is a bitch, but does he deserve years of "Julay" phone calls? I say yes, yes he does. They all do.

I'm roasting marshmallows over this garbage fire.

Doug's chickens have come home to roost now he's mad.
Mitch is crying to del arroz about Hut.
Hut is shitting his pants. Again, not the brains.

The gay ops have gone tits up and weens are definitely involved.

I'm going to say a lot of the harassment is random Weens. I'm gonna need more than just someone made fun of me on the internet to give a shit.

Hut. Create an account and join the discussion! We want to know the truth Hut.

 

[Miniluv]

I think Christopher probably asked for help and Doug not being a fan of Frog & Co. obliged perhaps using the opportunity to seed speculation or at least to chip away at the edges of CG until something was ripe for an exposé.

I actually believe Hut's claim that Ernst approached him first in his guise as a "journalist" after seeing some of Hut's early anti-CG videos. Journalists do that kind of shit all the time when looking for stories. I can't see Ernst going out of his way to edit videos for Hut and give him dirt if it wasn't his idea already. And I can't see what would give Hut the idea to reach out to Ernst out of the blue for "help".

Did Ernst enable a retard? Yes. That's pretty much a given.

What does Hut get out of this? Attention. Friendship. Free video editing.

Yep. Hut got to play with the cool kids and Ernst found an easily manipulated patsy to whom he could feed damaging info who would also parrot his personal insults towards CG figures (like making fun of Zack for being homeless) without pushback or any real appearance of a connection so his hands aren't dirty. Doug probably found the perfect idiot.

 

[Stoneheart]

I dont know why people would sue each other over this! i will work as a gay ops merc for anybody who will publish and help push my comic on his channel.
Its called oskar and its about a criminal who gets a 2nd chance by joining the army to fight the russians. the symbol of their unit are 2 grenades crossed.
i already have an artist who will draw the comic, he will be 120% on time and its super cheap. (you guys should look into myanmar, they give you great rate and will shot the "artist" if they dont get it done in time).

If you need somebody to go after your enemies dirty, write me a DM.

 

[Captain Manning]

If I may, I wanna take a break from the back and forth of just how gay Ernst's op actually was, and point out the fact that, a couple of days ago, @Mister Dongs posted that Liam Grey is claiming that Leedle confided in him that she was sexually assaulted by Yellowflash.

And nobody here said shit.

I don't know WHY I find this funny. I just do. I figure either it's because Liam is so incredibly full of shit that our brains are now hardwired to gloss over anything he says, or this Ernst stuff is genuinely more interesting.

Good news for Hut is this means people care less what Liam has to say than they care about what he has to say. I suppose that's mild ointment for the burn Hut suffered in being replaced by Roiloup.

In any event, @Alazmat is covering this pretty closely, and there might be a pretty funny tard war between the combined forces of Leedle and Micah Curtis. and Liam Grey brewing.

 

[FROG]

I dont know why people would sue each other over this! i will work as a gay ops merc for anybody who will publish and help push my comic on his channel.
Its called oskar and its about a criminal who gets a 2nd chance by joining the army to fight the russians. the symbol of their unit are 2 grenades crossed.
i already have an artist who will draw the comic, he will be 120% on time and its super cheap. (you guys should look into myanmar, they give you great rate and will shot the "artist" if they dont get it done in time).

If you need somebody to go after your enemies dirty, write me a DM.

You're hired.

 

[Alazmat]

If I may, I wanna take a break from the back and forth of just how gay Ernst's op actually was, and point out the fact that, a couple of days ago, @Mister Dongs posted that Liam Grey is claiming that Leedle confided in him that she was sexually assaulted by Yellowflash.

And nobody here said shit.

I don't know WHY I find this funny. I just do. I figure either it's because Liam is so incredibly full of shit that our brains are now hardwired to gloss over anything he says, or this Ernst stuff is genuinely more interesting.

Good news for Hut is this means people care less what Liam has to say than they care about what he has to say. I suppose that's mild ointment for the burn Hut suffered in being replaced by Roiloup.

In any event, @Alazmat is covering this pretty closely, and there might be a pretty funny tard war between the combined forces of Leedle and Micah Curtis. and Liam Grey brewing.

https://archive.ph/YE4mk

 

[Stoneheart]

You're hired.

name your enemies?

also

 

[FROG]

From Comic Book Hut.

 

[Absurdity]

That's some pro-level cosplay going on there. I mean, it's not like it could compete with a Craptain Galaxy or a Cybertfrog... they probably don't even come in XXXL sizes!

 

[The Coon]

He struck me more like that veteran WarCampaign sperg with the head injury

First you pretty much said he was a retard.

Or Hutt's crowd funder went tits up and he blamed it on others and made up a story hoping Ethan would pick it up and help him sell his comic book

Then you said he could have made up this elaborate story, with pics and all, because his crowdfunder failed. Which is it? Retard or Doug sabotager, it can't be both. Also, I don't think he got mad that it failed, I think he was mad because they wouldn't let him go on their shows to promote his book. He thought he was actually friends with these fine Christian gentleman, only to finally come to the realization that they really didn't give a shit about him and were just using him.

I figure either it's because Liam is so incredibly full of shit that our brains are now hardwired to gloss over anything he says

It's this one, this Doug stuff is interesting, but not that interesting.

 

[A nameless trool]

If I may, I wanna take a break from the back and forth of just how gay Ernst's op actually was, and point out the fact that, a couple of days ago, @Mister Dongs posted that Liam Grey is claiming that Leedle confided in him that she was sexually assaulted by Yellowflash.

And nobody here said shit.

I don't know WHY I find this funny. I just do. I figure either it's because Liam is so incredibly full of shit that our brains are now hardwired to gloss over anything he says, or this Ernst stuff is genuinely more interesting.

Good news for Hut is this means people care less what Liam has to say than they care about what he has to say. I suppose that's mild ointment for the burn Hut suffered in being replaced by Roiloup.

In any event, @Alazmat is covering this pretty closely, and there might be a pretty funny tard war between the combined forces of Leedle and Micah Curtis. and Liam Grey brewing.

I don't believe anyone would be surprised if YF did anything retarded. He could spree-shoot a mall full of kids and people would just shrug.

 

[5t3n0g0ph3r]

I don't believe anyone would be surprised if YF did anything retarded. He could spree-shoot a mall full of kids and people would just shrug.

The claims are coming from @Tyne.
That alone should set off bullshit detectors.

 

[Captain Manning]

The claims are coming from @Tyne.
That alone should set off bullshit detectors.

Yeah, my first thought was "wake me if and when Leedle herself claims it."

I just find it amusing because, in a vacuum, sexual assault is a very serious claim. It would normally be a huge discussion topic in any cow community.

But because it comes from Liam, nobody cares. That should tell anybody anything they ever need to know about the state of Liam's credibility.
I'm guessing nobody here is "listen and believe," and rightly so, but Liam can't even gain a "listen." He's that fucked.