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WhimsicalTrolli said:
Yanzi bring a good lu obsessing over Eric on Twitter.


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Yeah. Her and Shane have been doing this for the last week or two. It's funny though. The latest "issue" they have is the butthurt over business sense thing.

But it seems like Shane got butthurt and cut EJ off possibly based on what EVS told him since for the last few days he's been asking for screenshots or videos where EJ said he hates crowdfunding. Even asked people in his stream the other day if they agree that EJ hates crowdfunding or if Shane is misunderstanding things. Of course, most of the people watching Shane at this point probably dislike EJ too. So it's like asking a prisoner if he's innocent or not. Of course, they're going to agree with Shane/EVS or say they're innocent.

It's kind of dumb at this point. People on either side are too locked in and aren't going to change their stance one way or another.
 
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That Other Dude's Persona said:
Ethan is a stable individual and I'm sure he will handle Graham calling him "one bad apple" like a mature adult. It's just friendly ribbing, right?
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Ethan will be caught off guard since he sees nothing wrong. The attention and superberries have centripetally coalesced around him--balance has been restored to the CG™️ universe . Trashcast is getting viewers and the wacky new characters Vito, Jizz Salad, Dick, TonyFrog and Dogfucker are so much better than those boring nerds who are so serious about comics.

100% chance Ethan felt very benevolent giving Graham a free pass the first time he stepped out of line, but he's gonna be furious now. Graham is pushing his luck, going back to the well one more time and using 'just horseplay' as a fig leaf for such egregious disloyalty.

On the flip side, Graham doesn't give a shit. He has his fans and backers and a rock solid record of fulfillment along with regular communication to his backers.
Good luck to EVS trying to shame Graham for being the counter-example to his own failures.

The best EVS could do is to gently chasten Graham for getting baited into responding to a Twitter troll. Graham should know you aren't allowed to notice Ethan's fraud and you aren't allowed to respond to other people noticing.
 
Yanzi has honestly been a huge disappointment. If you have free time maybe focus on tard wrangling your husband, not fighting the negro for supposedly dishonoring you.
You had to do a 2nd chance campaign in order to catch up with the numbers of the 1st Inglorious Rex (4 campaign closeouts spread across multiple begathon streams). The delivery window is also significantly later compared to the 1st campaign. How is this helping your business?
 
WhimsicalTrolli said:
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That EJ clip is really not helping her make her case. Dude is saying creative pros who worked exclusively as contractors shouldn’t be looked to for expertise in entrepreneurship. Where’s the lie? Where’s the part where he says you have no business sense?
I mean if I have to extrapolate the least charitable inference possible out of his statement (like Shane apparently does) then OK fine, I get it. But no neutral party is going to go there. This is all so… small.


Meanwhile!
Kenneth Rocafort released Groken 3 two days ago and it’s hovering just under $65k. The only CG support I’m seeing for this is a tweet from Shane and a few tweets from Bancroft. Is Bancroft still CG? Is Kenneth Rocafort, for that matter? Oh, and the Splintering, Snuggy Jr, the late lamented Leroi, Jose Garcia… all these names you never really see anymore, weird, huh.
They’re propelling an interesting book by a creator with a track record of timely fulfillment towards six figures, organically. Without CG or Eric July! Who’d have believed it was possible…?

Lmao how many small creators are watching this and taking notes?
 
That Other Dude's Persona said:
The delivery window is also significantly later compared to the 1st campaign. How is this helping your business?
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I'll give him a pass on that. Shane had to have surgery on his hand or arm a few months ago for some reason. So that's probably why the due by date was modified to be a few months later than originally intended. He supposedly had the doctor make it so drawing was still a possibility. But I guess the cast or whatever he had at the time (not sure if he still has it) still slowed things down a bit.
 
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Grunka Lunka said:
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But anyway, Inglorious Rex 2 already had an extra 2 months from start to estimated delivery compared to IR1, before the surgery even happened. If they are really shipping it in June, as the 2nd chance page indicates, they are destroying any momentum they had. And this is the only property of theirs people seem to care about.
 
Grunka Lunka said:
Recently, Dillard had a plumbing issue or something so now he can't live in his home. Supposedly YF had offered to help out, but guess he wanted to do a GoFundMe for it instead? I don't know, the whole situation is dumb. Either way, because YF and EVS are no longer dating, EVS sees this as an opportunity to go to the aid of a down on his luck artist while say how much of an evil bastard YF is for not wanting to give the guy money on a comic that hasn't even come out yet. I'm sure this won't affect sales or anything too.
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I don’t think Yellowflash clears as much money as many believe. Most of YF’s videos are under 10 mins which gimps your monetization. If Ethan gave such a shit he’d have stopped virtue-signaling to own Flash and used his power to help Dillard (who ended up saying he’s not living in poverty like Ethan claimed). This is the same sociopath that shouts “THIS IS NOT A COMMUNITY” when anyone suggests CG is some kind of club where you have each others’ back. But when The Griftering cried poor-mouth, Ethan was quick to mobilize his paypigs. Anyone remember EVS’s lawsuit fundraiser for Hambly when he got punched by a GenCon crossdresser & ran away like a little bitch to damsel on YT?
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Ethan only did that to grab as much of The Quartering’s audience as possible, because of course Hamburglar would promote it too & come on his streams. His feigned outrage over Dillard is a peak example of him weaponizing his audience. I remember a few years back some viewers were asking Ethan to help promote a fundraiser for Bill Messner Loebs, a handicapped bronze-age writer who was homeless. Ethan tweeted about it once or twice. No Jerry‘s Quartering Kids telethons for that one, was of very little benefit to Frog.
 
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To be fair, there was some pretty compelling evidence that Ernst was once tard wrangling Hut and exerting editorial control over his video content. This was discussed in this thread back in 2022, and all but the biggest Ethan haters at that time thought there were gay ops emanating from Ernst (and possibly Iconic). I know @Mister Dongs took that view (example), and his analyses are usually pretty level headed.

All that said, Ernst is also not wrong that Ethan should shut the fuck up and work on his own comics already. That shit happened two years ago, and nobody took Hut's slogging of Ethan seriously anyways. I remember thinking at the time that using Hut as a proxy was rather retarded because Hut is himself retarded.

Ethan bitches about what other people are doing too damn much, all in an order to deflect from his own laziness and incompetence. Shit is beyond tiring at this point.

Bunny Wigglesworth said:
Anyone remember EVS’s lawsuit fundraiser for Hambly when he got punched by a GenCon crossdresser & ran away like a little bitch to damsel on YT?
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Yes. He donated the remaining money to the Humane Society. There's even a Bounding Into Comics article on it.

 
Mecha II said:
Oh I'm sorry, I didn't know I couldn't say a Comic book looked like shit on here. Maybe I should talk about qualifying times in ARCA or something for a couple pages. What that be more Germane to the conversation?
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Coom is entered in tomorrow's Backyard Rasslin' Pensacola 500 at Five Flags Speedway driving the 06 car against 17 other top-notch drivers!


Qualifying is at 5:00pm CST although I'm not sure why since only 18 cars are entered. The full race is at 7:30pm CST.

 
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Captain Manning said:
To be fair, there was some pretty compelling evidence that Ernst was once tard wrangling Hut and exerting editorial control over his video content. This was discussed in this thread back in 2022, and all but the biggest Ethan haters at that time thought there were gay ops emanating from Ernst (and possibly Iconic). I know @Mister Dongs took that view (example), and his analyses are usually pretty level headed.

All that said, Ernst is also not wrong that Ethan should shut the fuck up and work on his own comics already. That shit happened two years ago, and nobody took Hut's slogging of Ethan seriously anyways. I remember thinking at the time that using Hut as a proxy was rather retarded because Hut is himself retarded.

Ethan bitches about what other people are doing too damn much, all in an order to deflect from his own laziness and incompetence. Shit is beyond tiring at this point.
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Retrieving a grievance as insignificant as Hutt & Ernst is like digging under 10 stacked mattresses to retrieve the one chicken nugget that got away. It still burns him! Truly in a spiral and he doesn't have anything else to throw in front of him. You literally have to be a degenerate to run after the salad he's tossing nowadays. The arc is well underway. With Masturdson, Vedo, and Balldo Baggins in tow, this is guaranteed to open new levels of failure. Can't wait!
 
chalkyresidue said:
Where’s the lie? Where’s the part where he says you have no business sense?
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I implore you to stop sucking July's dick. He's a borderline autistic running an Anti-Sjw grift. You don't need to record every single thing he says as Gospel. His comics are bad to retarded in quality, you just need to think for yourself a little.
SaidNoOneEver said:
Coomalot
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I avoided this thread for weeks because of this shit. It's not comics related at all. incredibly gay.
Fleetwood said:
The Charlie one is a Charlie Chaplin bio comic made by a woman who used the screen name Charlie's London (Title of the book). It was funded by comicsgate, the book was published and @Mecha II was disappointed that Charlie Chaplin didn't shoot lazers out of his eyes. A second book according to an Indiegogo update is shipping soon.
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Chauw Lee's Lundun is a cunt. She superchatted her old ass into the inner circle of CG with autistic fury.

That said I backed her book, and it was very pleasant. Not to my liking, but the art was superb and there was a real story, or attempt at one in there. It did gloss over or outright ignore Charlie's predilection for the underage, and surrounding controversy, but farbeit from me to cancel a dead guy.

You can't really appreciate Charlie's London until Jaybama fan decided to Amp up his Superchats. No doubt seeing Chauwlee's success he decided to pursue a similar strategy to earn the Frog's favor. Incessant Superchatting in the hopes of someday gaining a seat at the table. From what I understand he did get on some streams, or at least met up with his heroes at a con. Was he the lookout for the dick drawings on the homeless guy? I don't know.
Anyway he spent a lot of money to be able to rub elbows with the live streamers and he's produced nothing. Charlie's London made a really quality book. A sequel too I think. So yeah I'd rather she make something interesting like Mecha-Charlie Chaplin with laser eyes, but I think her efforts are worthy. Jaybama not so much.

A tale of two superchatters
 
Mecha II said:
I avoided this thread for weeks because of this shit. It's not comics related at all. incredibly gay.
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In case you missed it the ARCA scam is all Comicsgate has now. Unless you count the recent Ku Klux Komicsgate direction.

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Incredibly gay is correct. Funny though. Comics people are f'ing weirdos.
 
SaidNoOneEver said:
In case you missed it the ARCA scam is all Comicsgate has now. Unless you count the recent Ku Klux Komicsgate direction.

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Incredibly gay is correct. Funny though. Comics people are f'ing weirdos.
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Jesus fucking christ, I just noticed the 29 campaigns under Ethan's name...

How many has he fully put out? CF1+2(?), Vampirella cover (thanks to Dynamite not him), and I guess the figures, and the omnibus of 90s CF? Off the top of my head. And that's over the course of how many years?
 
You know, before all this happened with Eric July, my only exposure to EVS is him making fun of Andrew Dobson(Dobson made a pissy strawman comic about him) once way back when and was pretty funny.

This stuff now is just fucking embarrassing.
 
Gee Willows Wilson! said:
Jesus fucking christ, I just noticed the 29 campaigns under Ethan's name...

How many has he fully put out? CF1+2(?), Vampirella cover (thanks to Dynamite not him), and I guess the figures, and the omnibus of 90s CF? Off the top of my head. And that's over the course of how many years?
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CF2 isn't even fully shipped yet. Best guess 8 campaigns still unfulfilled:


Ethan Van Sciver’s CYBERFROG:BLOODHONEY Comic Book [1 of 2 campaigns]
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Ethan Van Sciver’s CYBERFROG:BLOODHONEY Comic Book

The return of CYBERFROG, awakened into a world seized by a swarm of murderous alien hornets. | Check out 'Ethan Van Sciver’s CYBERFROG:BLOODHONEY Comic Book' on Indiegogo.
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Due Nov 2018

Ethan Van Sciver’s CYBERFROG:BLOODHONEY Comic Book [2 of 2 campaigns]
Due Nov 2018

CYBERFROG BLOODHONEY TEAM UP COVER!
Due July 2019

CYBERFROG AND VAMPIRELLA exclusive variant cover!
Due Oct 2019

ETHAN VAN SCIVER's VAMPIRELLA #1 RED FOIL VARIANT!
Due Dec 2019

CYBERFROG: BLOODHONEY Lmtd ed. Line Art Variants!
Due Dec 2019

2nd Chance CYBERFROG 1998 Ashcans and Chromiums!
www.indiegogo.com

2nd Chance CYBERFROG 1998 Ashcans and Chromiums!

CYBERFROG 1998: THE DIARY OF HEATHER SWAIN + AMPHIBIONIX ashcans plus SALAMANDROID CHROMIUM offer! | Check out '2nd Chance CYBERFROG 1998 Ashcans and Chromiums!' on Indiegogo.
www.indiegogo.com www.indiegogo.com
Due Jan 2020

2nd Chance CYBERFROG Chromium Comic, plus POSTERS!
Due Mar 2020

CYBERFROG RIBBITCOIN COLLECTIBLE COINS!
Due Apr 2020 - Canceled

CYBERFROG: UNFROGETTABLE TALES #1 & 2!
Due July 2020

VENGEANCE OF VAMPIRELLA ft. CYBERFROG #1
Due Oct 2020

Ethan Van Sciver's CYBERFROG 2: REKT PLANET
Due May 2021 - Unfulfilled according to comments

Ethan Van Sciver's CYBERFROG: WARTS AND ALL
Due Sep 2021

Trent Kaniuga's CREED: Re-IMAGINARY #1 & 2!
Due Dec 2021

Ethan Van Sciver's REIGNBOW THE BRUTE
Due Dec 2021 - Unfulfilled according to comments

SNOWMAN: A COLD DAY IN HELL
Due Dec 2021 - Unfulfilled according to comments

1st Wave CYBERFROG Action Figures!
Due June 2022, later changed to June 2023 - Unfulfilled according to comments

New ALL CAPS COMICS CYBERFROG Apparel!
Due July 2022

2nd Chance for CYBERFROG 2: REKT PLANET
Due Dec 2022 - Unfulfilled according to comments

CYBERFROG BLACKLIGHT POSTERS!
Due Mar 2023

2023 ALL CAPS COMICS and CG Apparel!
Due July 2023

CYBERFROG: DARK HARVEST
Due Sep 2023 - Unfulfilled according to comments

Dale Keown's PITT Poster Campaign!
Due Dec 2023 - Unfulfilled according to comments

ELECTRIKK BLUE CYBERFROG VARIANT ACTION FIGURES!
Due Dec 2023 - Unfulfilled according to comments

FEARSOME Preview Book plus ALL CAPS COMICS Store
Due Mar 2024

CYBERFROG: HEARTSICK DELUXE plus RACE CAR!
Due Aug&Dec 2024

Ethan Van Sciver's CYBERFROG 3: RED EXTERMINATION
Due Dec 2024
 
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Grunka Lunka said:
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I mean, you COULD talk about the comics you love and why you love them, use them as examples of what the comics you love did right vs what the comics you hate do wrong. Show everyone why the artform you love is worth fighting for.
But that might actually involve some work. Better to just screech at your more successful competitor for an hour. Way better use of your time, I'm sure a lot of people will totally not be turned away by that sort of shit.
 
Gee Willows Wilson! said:
Jesus fucking christ, I just noticed the 29 campaigns under Ethan's name...

How many has he fully put out? CF1+2(?), Vampirella cover (thanks to Dynamite not him), and I guess the figures, and the omnibus of 90s CF? Off the top of my head. And that's over the course of how many years?
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Nine or ten. But could be a few more that I missed going through his list of campaigns. This is just based on the recent campaigns. His other campaigns are mixed in with other people campaigns so bit of a pain to go through.

In progress​

Ethan Van Sciver's CYBERFROG 3: RED EXTERMINATION​

Started last year.

CYBERFROG: DARK HARVEST​

Last update says working on getting print quotes.

Snowman​

Last update was it cost too much to print back in October on Twitter. Some guy in a YouTube comment recently said it will be going out soon. Have my doubts on the latter.

Reignbow​

He's working on it now, looks like he's rushing it so he can work on Cyberfrog 3 based on the few pages he's shown.


Technically in progress​

CYBERFROG: HEARTSICK DELUXE plus RACE CAR!​

Guess we'll see the wrap tomorrow? He'll probably keep it open for future races and it's easy money for him. Plus he's selling cars, a comic, and pies for himself on it.


Currently (or possibly still) being fulfilled​

FEARSOME Preview Book plus ALL CAPS COMICS Store​

Possibly fulfilled. But he hasn't updated that he's done.

Dale Keown's PITT Poster Campaign!​

Closed. Late as of December, but added cards saying they'll ship in April. No updates and a lot of unhappy comments.

ELECTRIKK BLUE CYBERFROG VARIANT ACTION FIGURES!​

Closed, but EVS says they still have 29 orders to go out in a comment.

2nd Chance for CYBERFROG 2: REKT PLANET (this will also include the original campaign for this)​

Supposedly the ones still left are those waiting on a sketch, but have also seen some people say they are just waiting on their books with no mention of a sketch. Not sure why he just doesn't send the stuff out and follow up with the sketches later. The shipping costs won't be that big of a deal. Regardless, I think I recall him saying there were a couple hundred left 2-4 weeks ago.
 
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