#Comicsgate - The Culture Wars Hit The Funny Books!

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Mr Processor said:
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Zack used to do this thing when his enemies (who all happened to have jobs in comics that he envied) would make what he called "baby-brained takes." Basically, "googoo gaga I don't understand," when they definitely did understand and were pretending not to in order to own the CHUDs.

Well, that's what Zack is doing here. Nobody has been clamoring for a series based on the character Agatha Harkness, and nobody thinks it's going to be a hit. Nobody wants this show. So, "who was this made for?" is a valid criticism. But Zack pretends not to understand the Drinker's snark here, just to be a dick.
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Finding out that Zack actually worked with the Critical Drinker on one of the Rambo books is the missing element to the story of why he's doing this. For whatever reason they must have had a falling out and now Zack very obviously specifically targeting him, regardless of his lame rhetoric about "Birthday Party Clowns".

And after Drinker and the crew helped boost one of Zack's floundering books. Really burning some bridges he could have really used in the future. Total stupidity.
 
Agatha All Along is supposed to be Disney Marvel's gayest show yet, so I can see why Nu Zack who has embraced his fabulous inner drama qween is defending it.

Whip up a batch of milkshakes and binge Emily in Paris and Agatha All Along, Zack. You go, gurl!
 
That Other Dude's Persona said:
We have people in this thread that despise EVS and still hatewatch Trashcast. Do you actually think there's 10k CGers or are you being sarcastic?

CF2 had 11k backings (not backers) 4 years ago when literally everyone in the griftosphere was shilling EVS's books. His subscribestar currently has 384 people.
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EDIT: CF3 went indemand with 3,618 backings and had 24-hour exclusive variants. Your numbers are retarded.
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This is just wishcasting on your part, because you don't like Frog. Well neither do I but it doesn't change the facts.

Subscribestar is irrelevant these days since there are Youtube channel memberships that do the same thing but is more convenient. Honestly the fact that he has that many people subscribed on that obscure service tells me I may actually be undercounting his fans.

Cyberfrog 3 now has over 6600 backers, you're just cherry picking and wishcassting. Like I said, if anything I'm doing an undercount.

Not everyone that is a fan is going to shell out money for his books or superchats, but he gets enough to let you know he probably has 5K hardcore paypigs and beyond that at least 10k hardcore listeners. Hardly anybody even hatewatches his livestreams anymore, since they are so long and boring. Not even Kiwis seem to be doing it.
 
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Dafuqisdis? said:
This is just wishcasting on your part, because you don't like Frog. Well neither do I but it doesn't change the facts.
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No, I just think we're either not talking about the same thing or you're retarded.

CGers are people who buy books. Not vaguely defined "fans". He averages 2k viewers on his streams. That's where the clientele for his books is. That's where he gives updates or answers questions. The normies left after they got a book 3 years after they bought it (if they were lucky).

Nothing supports the 10k CGers number you pulled out of your ass (youtube numbers, backing numbers, subs) with such confidence and that you have to rationalize with "there's not even hatewatchers anymore". I'm sure his chat is full of people praising him every day.

I've heard people say 3k, but you're completely delusional.

EDIT: Based on your comments on RCM and subscribestar it could be just that you're not very informed. EVS made a big deal out of shutting down his patreon and switching over to subscribestar to protest off-platform censorship. Calling it an "obscure service" when it was a multi-week performance for EVS is just silly, come on now.
 
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Level99Manchild said:
an antisjw once with Just Some Guy Pedo and Zack.
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Just Some Guy has been posting a lot of anti-stuff, I wonder why Zack isn't railing against him with all his damn negativity in videos!

That Other Dude's Persona said:
Andrea has Parkinsons? That's fucked. Now two people in that family depend entirely on a morbidly obese, terminally online narcissist.

By the way, apparently Godlike 2 has launched, but no one seems to care.
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They love that $500 flex goal so they get the big number % in front of it. Good luck Malin. Your #2 "best" project is still not doing better than Eric July's #4.

WhimsicalTrolli said:
I guess transformers One doesn't quinch the palette of Richard C Meyer. Maybe things will change if FNT reviews it.

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Zack, why are you going to see this children's movie? You don't have children after you abandoned them. Why are you going to this movie that wasn't made for you?
 
Mr Processor said:
Well, that's what Zack is doing here. Nobody has been clamoring for a series based on the character Agatha Harkness, and nobody thinks it's going to be a hit. Nobody wants this show. So, "who was this made for?" is a valid criticism. But Zack pretends not to understand the Drinker's snark here, just to be a dick.
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For the slow kids: "Who was this made for?" = "The show fails to attract the supposedly intended audience who did not watch it nor did it attract a peripheric demograghic".

Grunka Lunka said:
I think Drinker is just trying to be the better man. I believe he did mention that he doesn't know what is going on with Zach and stopped it there. Same as when people try to bring stuff up that EVS said in an attempt to get Razorfist to say something about it. Basically, there is no benefit to getting riled up about it. Particularly because of the shared fanbase.
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The Drinker might be trying to be professional or he truly does not understand what is going on. To be fair, even we can only speculate what is going on in Zack 's mind to cause all this (insert the song "Do you believe in magic" by the band "The Lovin' Spoonful").

WhimsicalTrolli said:
I guess transformers One doesn't quinch the palette of Richard C Meyer. Maybe things will change if FNT reviews it.

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Let us have the Drinker and the rest of the gang give positive reviews to the movie so that Zack leaves them alone for a while since he seems to ignore things that do not fit his worldview.
 
That Other Dude's Persona said:
No, I just think we're either not talking about the same thing or you're retarded.

CGers are people who buy books. Not vaguely defined "fans". He averages 2k viewers on his streams. That's where the clientele for his books is. That's where he gives updates or answers questions. The normies left after they got a book 3 years after they bought it (if they were lucky).

Nothing supports the 10k CGers number you pulled out of your ass (youtube numbers, backing numbers, subs) with such confidence and that you have to rationalize with "there's not even hatewatchers anymore". I'm sure his chat is full of people praising him every day.

I've heard people say 3k, but you're completely delusional.

EDIT: Based on your comments on RCM and subscribestar it could be just that you're not very informed. EVS made a big deal out of shutting down his patreon and switching over to subscribestar to protest off-platform censorship. Calling it an "obscure service" when it was a multi-week performance for EVS is just silly, come on now.
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I already quoted the number of backers for Cyberfrog #3 at over 6600. I'll do the math for you you dumb nigger, that's 2/3 the way to 10k. Doesn't sound like I'm really off does it? Especially when you consider that it's a number 3 issue and isn't going to get nearly as much buy in.

Not that you get to define the terms of the debate to only count "people who buy books" anyway, you stupid faggot. The post I was reply to said there were only 1.5k COMICSGATERS, which was plainly and flagrantly wrong, but you decided to respond to me instead of him for some reason in order to correct my numbers. But of course you didn't even mention what the correct numbers would be, even though you know mine are just so wrong.

And you don't seem to understand how livestreaming viewership works, which makes sense since you seem to be an all around mongoloid. People pop in and out of a long live stream all of the time. So no, Frog doesn't average 2k viewers on his streams you simpleton. You're talking about the average number of viewers at any one time. And there are plenty of viewers that watch after the fact, who are still capable of buying books and channel memberships just as much as those who watch live.

And finally subscribestar is obscure in that it is little know and used. If you did watch Frog's stream, you would know that not only do people regularly buy his channel membership, they often gift them out, sometimes 50 at a time. So he gets a lot of money that way.

So it's easy to stick by my 10k hardcore fans argument, and if anything I'm undercounting.

Have I covered all the bases for you, niggerfaggot?
 
Dafuqisdis? said:
Finding out that Zack actually worked with the Critical Drinker on one of the Rambo books is the missing element to the story of why he's doing this. For whatever reason they must have had a falling out and now Zack very obviously specifically targeting him, regardless of his lame rhetoric about "Birthday Party Clowns".
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Drinker delivered the work on time and completely. Zach is eather too lazy or too incompetent to get the job done.
Gee Willows Wilson! said:
Zack, why are you going to see this children's movie? You don't have children after you abandoned them. Why are you going to this movie that wasn't made for you?
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Because he's a retard and a man child
 
Edgeymcedgename said:
Drinker delivered the work on time and completely. Zach is eather too lazy or too incompetent to get the job done.

Because he's a retard and a man child
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The thing is Zack isn't an artist, so he isn't even in very much control of when the work gets done.

While on the other hand Frog has the destiny of his books completely in his hands and still squanders it.

But whatever the reason for Zack falling out with Drinker, he just must love damaging his own prospects because that was one of the most useful alliances he could have had.
 
@Dafuqisdis? You're a genuine retard and a prime mark for CG. IGG counts backings, not backers. The way they set up their campaigns means CGers (a.k.a. subhuman mongoloids like yourself) have to back multiple times to get the time-exlusive shit that they add over time.

All your takes have been dogshit. Stop pulling shit out of your ass and maybe actually read the thread so you can learn things that people have known for years, you low IQ faggot.
 
That Other Dude's Persona said:
@Dafuqisdis? You're a genuine retard and a prime mark for CG. IGG counts backings, not backers. The way they set up their campaigns means CGers (a.k.a. subhuman mongoloids like yourself) have to back multiple times to get the time-exlusive shit that they add over time.

All your takes have been dogshit. Stop pulling shit out of your ass and maybe actually read the thread so you can learn things that people have known for years, you low IQ faggot.
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Damn you sat there for like 45 minutes and that was the best you could come up with?

Nothing about you not knowing how livestreaming works you stupid fuck? Were you just pretending to be retarded?

There doesn't seem to be that many additional backing due to the variants he's added. Blue MAGA added like a couple of hundred and change. Got any evidence that there are a large number of duplicate backers? Of course not.

If you've been sitting here for years reading this thread I suggest you leave and go out into the real world. You've been here to long and it seems to have warped your already limited mental capacity.
 
Dafuqisdis? said:
Damn you sat there for like 45 minutes and that was the best you could come up with?

Nothing about you not knowing how livestreaming works you stupid fuck? Were you just pretending to be retarded?

There doesn't seem to be that many additional backing due to the variants he's added. Blue MAGA added like a couple of hundred and change. Got any evidence that there are a large number of duplicate backers? Of course not.

If you've been sitting here for years reading this thread I suggest you leave and go out into the real world. You've been here to long and it seems to have warped your already limited mental capacity.
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I didn't read past your comment about the IGG numbers. If you didn't know how IGG works in 2024 or that we discussed the new CF3 covers a couple pages back, I'm not giving your worthless, retarded wall of text more of my time. I'm sure whatever you wrote next was completely true.

Kill yourself, preferably along with your non-imaginary 10,000 CGers.
 
Dafuqisdis? said:
Damn you sat there for like 45 minutes and that was the best you could come up with?

Nothing about you not knowing how livestreaming works you stupid fuck? Were you just pretending to be retarded?

There doesn't seem to be that many additional backing due to the variants he's added. Blue MAGA added like a couple of hundred and change. Got any evidence that there are a large number of duplicate backers? Of course not.

If you've been sitting here for years reading this thread I suggest you leave and go out into the real world. You've been here to long and it seems to have warped your already limited mental capacity.
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FOR YEEEEEARS!

I really hope your Cyberfrog investment works out bro.
I hope you make a gorrrrillion dollars.
 
Incecticyder said:
The Drinker might be trying to be professional or he truly does not understand what is going on.
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If we're to believe what Drinker's YouTube friends have to say about him, people in Hollywood watch Drinker and take his opinions seriously. Why would a guy who is being listened to by the industry itself care what some mentally-ill YouTuber way past his best days who has betrayed the principles that gave him an audience in the first place has to say?

Drinker has respect, affluence, influence, prospects, Zack has a ruined reputation and a relatively small channel that is dwindling fast.
 
Dafuqisdis? said:
There doesn't seem to be that many additional backing due to the variants he's added. Blue MAGA added like a couple of hundred and change. Got any evidence that there are a large number of duplicate backers? Of course not.

If you've been sitting here for years reading this thread I suggest you leave and go out into the real world. You've been here to long and it seems to have warped your already limited mental capacity.
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It's always been known there are multiple time backers. Just look thru the comments asking for refunds. Also a lot of the refund requests are for Briefcase/Box editions that are like $200 and come with multiple items. In earlier campaigns indiegogo had an option to donate as little as $1 without buying a perk that counted as one backer too. He had drives on stream to up the numbers by getting people to give him free money. The counting system is gamed for max bragging but it is a relatively small amount of people paying a lot of money each. People who pay him are stupid, would you buy anything where you look at the feedback and it's all refund requests?
 
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