#Comicsgate - The Culture Wars Hit The Funny Books!

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i don't think EVS even needs to blackmail him i think he's just taking advantage of Richard's spiral.

Richard was already sperging at drinker out of jealousy, a probable personal vendetta, and Richard truly is crazy and a Just some Guy tier leftist and blames him for movies failing. I think Ethan just saw this and being the POS that he is decided to start shit talking his own enemies to Richard and encouraged him to go after them behind the scenes also, and being an impressionable retard Richard does it.

This is probably the most egregious thing Ethan does and no one talks about it because a good chunk of his haters are either leftist morons or dipshits who can't think for themselves because they worship another Internet personality. I don't believe for a second Ethan and Meyer are friends anymore and if they are then shame on Ethan for not trying to talk Meyer off the edge or-assuming he was rejected-disowning/ignoring him.

Wait, in what way is Zack mentally ill?

Really?

Look, I understand why the Ed Piskor thing would send YBZ off the deep end, I do. But Will Jordan and company aren't causing an Ed Piskor situation. Losing your mind over the so-called "birthday party clowns" should at least be a warning flag to friends and family that something may be wrong. YBZ may not like everything they do, but he should have a little but of pride knowing he inspired a lot of these guys to stand up to the shitheads wrecking pop culture and the awful shills that protect them. Instead it's insane jealousy.
 
how happy would EVS be if he got this kind of response?
Very.

It must be galling to EVS that July finds Juju more worthy of a reply than the leader of the great Comicsgate. The guy who is still... I guess... his biggest competitor in the independent comics market.

Juju is trying and failing to turn July into the next Maddox, but I think EVS is more obsessed overall. It's like every Trashcast.

Which is why I don't really follow this thread much anymore. For one, I personally find Zack boring (no offense to anyone here who feels otherwise, but I just don't care myself). The other thing though is EVS's Trashcast episodes are so long and boring, they're basically a Geneva Convention violation. I haven't got the time to keep up if nobody clips or summarizes them.

Overall, I think July gave a pretty solid response to Juju. Unfortunately, he also gave Juju the one thing he wants more than anything: Attention.
 
Overall, I think July gave a pretty solid response to Juju. Unfortunately, he also gave Juju the one thing he wants more than anything: Attention.
He does acknowledge it’s what Juju wants, but in the most belittling way possible. Like he said, Juju needs him, but he in no way needs Juju.

And if he was ever going to give him any really attention, this was a pretty great way to do it.
 
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He does acknowledge it’s what Juju wants, but in the most belittling way possible. Like he said, Juju needs him, but he in know way needs Juju.

And if he was ever going to give him any really attention, this was a pretty great way to do it.
Oh, I'm not criticizing him. In fact, I think July handled this whole thing a LOT better than people were initially willing to give him credit for. This went well beyond a normal Internet slap fight in several places, and Eric kept a remarkable amount of cool. I think even @Mister Dongs, God bless him, thought there was gonna be spergout after spergout from July, and there really wasn't.

It's just that, by finally doing this, he needs to understand it's not gonna put Juju in his place. It's gonna cause him to get super assmad, and maybe try even more stupid shit to ruin July. Juju plays dirty. Very dirty. July should watch his ass.

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Juju is trying and failing to turn July into the next Maddox, but I think EVS is more obsessed overall. It's like every Trashcast.
I do not blame EVS at all for seething at Eric. EVS had to use all of his fame and goodwill to achieve what he achieved but Eric pulled of more while being a nobody. Anyone would be angry at that but, in the end, EVS is at fault for this state of affairs.

Overall, I think July gave a pretty solid response to Juju. Unfortunately, he also gave Juju the one thing he wants more than anything: Attention.
Not all attention is good. Juju will find out soon.

It's just that, by finally doing this, he needs to understand it's not gonna put Juju in his place. It's gonna cause him to get super assmad, and maybe try even more stupid shit to ruin July. Juju plays dirty. Very dirty. July should watch his ass.
I think we learn that when the pet mini-ogre started stalking Eric. We are way past escalation at this point. This was not about putting down Juju but about clearing up the narrative with the neutral parties. Crushing Juju is a bonus but taking away his support is the main goal.
 
I do not blame EVS at all for seething at Eric. EVS had to use all of his fame and goodwill to achieve what he achieved but Eric pulled of more while being a nobody. Anyone would be angry at that but, in the end, EVS is at fault for this state of affairs.
I disagree. EVS made heaps of money in his first campaigns. He was successful. Who cares what Eric does? They could have allied and promoted each other and then there would be more business for both of them. Instead, EVS decided to attack Eric and alienate his fans, and now his own business is dying a slow death. And many people who supported the early Zack and EVS campaigns have just walked away from CG after witnessing what a cesspool of infighting it has devolved into. That's more lost business that will never return.

That type of thinking is unhealthy and shouldn't be excused.
 
I disagree. EVS made heaps of money in his first campaigns. He was successful. Who cares what Eric does? They could have allied and promoted each other and then there would be more business for both of them. Instead, EVS decided to attack Eric and alienate his fans, and now his own business is dying a slow death. And many people who supported the early Zack and EVS campaigns have just walked away from CG after witnessing what a cesspool of infighting it has devolved into. That's more lost business that will never return.

That type of thinking is unhealthy and shouldn't be excused.
EVS and Eric July were tight in the beginning. He had July on his show several times, most notably immediately after the FNT charity stream debacle both shitting on FNT together. EVS only flipped when July shunned IGG and released his stuff without cutting EVS in or even asking his approval. Not kissing EVS' green lantern ring is the only sin that matters.
 
EVS and Eric July were tight in the beginning. He had July on his show several times, most notably immediately after the FNT charity stream debacle both shitting on FNT together. EVS only flipped when July shunned IGG and released his stuff without cutting EVS in or even asking his approval. Not kissing EVS' green lantern ring is the only sin that matters.
And Rippa was critical of people who, you know, give their backers what they asked for two years after the expected arrival date.
 
I disagree. EVS made heaps of money in his first campaigns. He was successful. Who cares what Eric does? They could have allied and promoted each other and then there would be more business for both of them. Instead, EVS decided to attack Eric and alienate his fans, and now his own business is dying a slow death. And many people who supported the early Zack and EVS campaigns have just walked away from CG after witnessing what a cesspool of infighting it has devolved into. That's more lost business that will never return.

That type of thinking is unhealthy and shouldn't be excused.
What I mean is that it is normal to feel angry when you are overshadowed so badly. EVS brought it upon himself but, considering he was beaten by that much, it is normal to feel frustrated. He is not on the right but it is human nature to get angry, even irrationally.
 
I disagree. EVS made heaps of money in his first campaigns. He was successful. Who cares what Eric does? They could have allied and promoted each other and then there would be more business for both of them. Instead, EVS decided to attack Eric and alienate his fans, and now his own business is dying a slow death. And many people who supported the early Zack and EVS campaigns have just walked away from CG after witnessing what a cesspool of infighting it has devolved into. That's more lost business that will never return.

That type of thinking is unhealthy and shouldn't be excused.

Don't care about the infighting, most of them weren't making very good books (especially YBZ) and Ethan has proven to be completely irresponsible with his investments. Want to spend a little extra time on Cyberfrog? Fine. No excuse for Reignbow the Brute. It's a parody comic and your bad work is better than most people's good work (not to mention it's cultural significance is borderline obsolete now). As for "attacking" I guess we're forgetting the nightletter and the fact that most of Rippa's hardcores possess some mental defect that revolves around his racial background. Wouldn't write them off as innocent. Speaking of which...

What I mean is that it is normal to feel angry when you are overshadowed so badly. EVS brought it upon himself but, considering he was beaten by that much, it is normal to feel frustrated. He is not on the right but it is human nature to get angry, even irrationally.

No, you meant what you meant and you're just covering it up because what you said was stupid and you rightfully got called out for it.

Cyberfrog was a success, so was Cyberfrog 2 and some of the lesser campaigns did well also. The issues started in June 2023 but didn't go into overdrive until August 2023. Cyberfrog 3 launched in July 2023 and, quite frankly for Ethan's standards, underperformed. You want to pretend that went downhill because he started arguing with your Internet God and not because he's the biggest procrastinator you've ever seen be my guest, you're going to do it anyway so I don't know why it matters.
 
i unconsciously did a facepalm as he was recounting that story. If that was me, I’d have told Hunter that her hands had better be spotless by the time I get back home And I’d have went on to see the concert. But him coming back home for Ava is giving EVS way too much credit. I’m one hundred percent sure he cut his outing short because of the CG drama. Which is lame as fuck and I don’t know Andrea didn’t get pissed off at him because of that.

I doubt she cares. Honestly with her illness it feels they need every penny they can scrape together and quite frankly working on books people have already paid for isn't going to help. Superchats and eBay sales will. Like it or not Ethan's good at getting money out of his diehard/paypig audience.
 
No, you meant what you meant and you're just covering it up because what you said was stupid and you rightfully got called out for it.
I said that it is normal to be angry when being beaten at something you are considered good at. I DID NOT say that EVS was on the right, I said that it is normal to be upset at being defeated. It is sad but it is nonetheless true. You cannot expect everyone to be gracious in defeat.

Also, you are the retard that defended Juju despite all the easy to find proof that he harassed Eric and lied about him. Your opinion does not matter. Your interpretation of reality is flawed at best.

Cyberfrog was a success, so was Cyberfrog 2 and some of the lesser campaigns did well also. The issues started in June 2023 but didn't go into overdrive until August 2023. Cyberfrog 3 launched in July 2023 and, quite frankly for Ethan's standards, underperformed. You want to pretend that went downhill because he started arguing with your Internet God and not because he's the biggest procrastinator you've ever seen be my guest, you're going to do it anyway so I don't know why it matters.
Just because you have an "Internet God" does not mean everyone else does too. Stop projecting. EVS failed because he is late AND because he starts fights with those he shouldn't AND because he wastes his money. Many things can be true at the same time.
 
As for "attacking" I guess we're forgetting the nightletter and the fact that most of Rippa's hardcores possess some mental defect that revolves around his racial background. Wouldn't write them off as innocent. Speaking of which...
Oh please, Eric called him out on parading someone actively trying to fuck with his business while claiming to be cool with him just for Ethan to pretend to be threatened months later because Eric won't be his bitch like the rest of the losers still hanging on to CG.
 
I said that it is normal to be angry when being beaten at something you are considered good at. I DID NOT say that EVS was on the right, I said that it is normal to be upset at being defeated. It is sad but it is nonetheless true. You cannot expect everyone to be gracious in defeat.

Also, you are the retard that defended Juju despite all the easy to find proof that he harassed Eric and lied about him. Your opinion does not matter. Your interpretation of reality is flawed at best.


Just because you have an "Internet God" does not mean everyone else does too. Stop projecting. EVS failed because he is late AND because he starts fights with those he shouldn't AND because he wastes his money. Many things can be true at the same time.

Typical Rippatard repsonse. You're lucky this site leans towards shitting on CG, if it didn't you'd all get dragged for the "based black man" losers you are.

"You're defending Juju so you don't count!" I didn't even bring up Masterson in my reply, this is you trying to change the subject and discrediting me so you can automatically dismiss the criticism. Learn that one from Eric? Let me guess, the nightletter was technically me bringing up Masterson? Yeah, if @KingofSomething hadn't brought that up you weren't going to think of it yourself.

"I don't have an Internet God, YOU have an Internet God!" Are you twelve? On top of the fact that I've barely said anything nice about Ethan it's painfully obvious you're a Rippatard. You keep moving the goalposts with this "it can be both" bullshit-which is not what you originally said-in order to save face. Pointing out that Cyberfrog 1 & 2 were successful is a fact, not a sign of worship. Technically Cyberfrog 3 is a success but if Ethan says he's happy with that result then he's lying. The receipts were in long before the blowup and it's obvious EVS' ass dragging was the ultimate factor. This is reality, not Internet worship, but I think you already knew that, which is why you led off with Masterson and your brand of deflection instead of the truth.

And I know eventually you'll go here so I'll get it out of the way now: Yes, as a married man I sympathize on a basic level with a husband who's scared for his wife's future. That is not an endorsement of anything Ethan does no matter how hard you try to paint it that way. You don't seem like the married type so I don't expect you to understand.

"Eric does it better!" Does he? He once said Isom 3 could make a quarter of Isom 2 and they'd be fine. Spoiler Alert: $400,000 is not a quarter of what Isom 2 made. Yaira 2 sales were a joke and so were those other ones. He's the shithead who made his expenses public (well, used to) so an intelligent person can surmise that it's getting harder and harder for Eric to keep the lights on. As far as I know Ethan has two mouths to feed, a warehouse worker he probably pays terribly, and at this point some medical bills, so losing 40% of his audience is bad but not the end of the world. If you actually did the math instead of taking Eric's word for it you'd know that.

"...AND because he starts fights with those he shouldn't ..." What does this mean? Are you trying to imply that, for better or worse, Ethan's not allowed to pick fights with certain people? Be very careful in your response there buddy, remember, you're the one who said you don't have an Internet God.

Oh please, Eric called him out on parading someone actively trying to fuck with his business while claiming to be cool with him just for Ethan to pretend to be threatened months later because Eric won't be his bitch like the rest of the losers still hanging on to CG.

Wrong. Ethan said some of the criticisms were valid (yes, he clearly read the book when they had the argument in June 2023, showing me a video from May 2023 where he says he didn't doesn't dispute that) and Eric used "he's fucking with my bidness" as an excuse to ignore that. These are two different subjects but Rippa didn't see it that way. You also I guess.

And if you read that leaked text message it's fairly obvious that one person demanded the other get in line-or else. But something tells me you didn't actually read that text. At best it's Rippa being an inarticulate moron. At worse it's what ended up happening.

I really don't know why there's such a rush to defend Eric July on this site. Among other things, does hiding like a coward from a subpoena after insisting Riley was a threat to him and his employees not qualify as "lolcow" behavior? Or do we actually need to hear the interviews with the police for you to see how ridiculous this guy is? Nah, you'll probably just dismiss them because "Juju" was the only one who filled out the FIOA.
 
I didn't know EVS' wife was ill. Doesn't that make him taking her out on a date after letting her get dressed up and excited over something she probably doesn't get to do very often and then blowing it off to livestream kind of super cruel? I would spend the rest of the night crying that he chose superchats over me. It's not like one night of getting drunk online to 200 people could make a dent in serious medical bills. And wouldn't they have already paid for their concert tickets? Concert tickets are extremely expensive now and usually non refundable, even for virtual nobodies. She should be breaking things in the background and screaming at him to get a job. If she had the energy for a concert she could probably manage that.
ETA I also just remembered himsmoking crack with dirty hookers and cheating on her with a toilet. Girl what are you doing.
 
Wrong. Ethan said some of the criticisms were valid (yes, he clearly read the book when they had the argument in June 2023, showing me a video from May 2023 where he says he didn't doesn't dispute that) and Eric used "he's fucking with my bidness" as an excuse to ignore that. These are two different subjects but Rippa didn't see it that way. You also I guess.
I don't care how valid the criticisms were, you're just as retarded as Ethan if you expected Eric or anyone to take advice from someone who admitted they were actively fucking with them. Dax only read it because he got called out for taking shots at Eric before he read it. Why would he listen to the guy who was more interested in starting a fight for content?

And if you read that leaked text message it's fairly obvious that one person demanded the other get in line-or else. But something tells me you didn't actually read that text. At best it's Rippa being an inarticulate moron. At worse it's what ended up happening.
He pointed out that Ethan was being a dick to him, mind you Ethan cries on streams for hours about betrayal if someone interacts with someone he doesn't approve of no matter how small and encourages his fans to mess with them.

I really don't know why there's such a rush to defend Eric July on this site. Among other things, does hiding like a coward from a subpoena after insisting Riley was a threat to him and his employees not qualify as "lolcow" behavior? Or do we actually need to hear the interviews with the police for you to see how ridiculous this guy is? Nah, you'll probably just dismiss them because "Juju" was the only one who filled out the FIOA.
Prove Eric was hiding, he has the receipts stating he was never asked to appear and the courts obviously have his information if they wanted to serve him. And lol at saying Eric has lolcow behavior because the retard who traveled across the country to mess with his business and ancestor, got hit with a charge and then continued to be a nuisance anyway. Eric wasn't unreasonable when he said the attention seeking retard might do something stupid and he could be liable if he didn't show he was taking steps to protect them.
 
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