#Comicsgate - The Culture Wars Hit The Funny Books!

[MidUSA]

That is the point. Vox Day was soundly denounced for being an obviously hyper-political opportunist with delusions of grandeur who is attempting to co-opt the movement for himself. They're "acting like SJWs" precisely to keep such people out.

Pushing back on Vox for starting shit with that whole trademark nonsense, Sure. He is all about inserting politics into comics.

Going off on Jon del Arroz, not for inserting politics, but simply for (maybe) holding political opinions that they don't like. That's no different that the people who's attempted to drive Trump voters out of mainstream comics for holding opinions they don't like (or rather for the opinions SJW's believe Trump voters hold).

 

[AnOminous]

They just want the gamut of acceptable views to be widened just enough to include them personally, but not any wider.

Or in the case of Vox Day, they don't want him declaring himself Fuehrer, dictating logos and corporations, and forcing everyone to march in lockstep under his bullshit organization that nobody wants.

Going off on Jon del Arroz, not for inserting politics, but simply for (maybe) holding political opinions that they don't like.

He literally thinks people like Jon del Arroz should be exterminated for not being white.

 

[MidUSA]

He literally thinks people like Jon del Arroz should be exterminated for not being white.

I'm not talking about Vox* going after del Arroz. I'm talking about del Arroz being ostracized by people in the CG community for simply speaking about ethnostates.

*(Not sure about Vox in particular but ethnostate proponents generally don't advocate for the other ethnicity's to be exterminated. That's a strawman. I'm not saying their solutions are nessecarily realistic or ethical but they tend to envision various forms of 'encouragement' for people to leave the ethnostate; varying from economic incentives to repatriates to forcible ethnic cleansing. So yeah, not very pleasant perhaps, and quite possibly something bordering on extermination were it ever attempted in reality (I think current day South Africa gives us a hint about how the transition of the US into a white ethnostate might play out if it was to occur with the non-white minorities playing the part of the Boer), but extermination isn't what they set out for. Kinda like how communists don't intend for their nations to devolve into starvation and stagnation, it just tend to happen due to their politics)

 

[KimCoppolaAficionado]

*(Not sure about Vox in particular but ethnostate proponents generally don't advocate for the other ethnicity's to be exterminated. That's a strawman. I'm not saying their solutions are nessecarily realistic or ethical but they tend to envision various forms of 'encouragement' for people to leave the ethnostate; varying from economic incentives to repatriates to forcible ethnic cleansing. So yeah, not very pleasant perhaps, and quite possibly something bordering on extermination were it ever attempted in reality (I think current day South Africa gives us a hint about how the transition of the US into a white ethnostate might play out if it was to occur with the non-white minorities playing the part of the Boer), but extermination isn't what they set out for. Kinda like how communists don't intend for their nations to devolve into starvation and stagnation, it just tend to happen due to their politics)

I'm a connoisseur of Vox Day, and he is literally an advocate for the systemic elimination of all non-whites Turner Diaries-style and the virtual enslavement of all non-Anglo whites, as well as a return to theocratic monarchism and the wholesale dismantling of the US Constitution and Bill of Rights (he doesn't believe in rights in general, in fact). He is almost literally the White Supremacist boogeyman personified. Goddamn Stormfront doesn't want to be associated with his views. Regardless of other tactical decisions, distancing yourself from Vox Day is a decision that the vast majority of remotely-sane people from across the political spectrum can agree on. Read here to find out more.

 

[AnOminous]

I'm a connoisseur of Vox Day, and he is literally an advocate for the systemic elimination of all non-whites Turner Diaries-style and the virtual enslavement of all non-Anglo whites, as well as a return to theocratic monarchism and the wholesale dismantling of the US Constitution and Bill of Rights (he doesn't believe in rights in general, in fact). He is almost literally the White Supremacist boogeyman personified. Goddamn Stormfront doesn't want to be associated with his views. Regardless of other tactical decisions, distancing yourself from Vox Day is a decision that the vast majority of remotely-sane people from across the political spectrum can agree on. Read here to find out more.

He also has a personality that is even more repulsive than his political beliefs, and virtually everyone, even people who otherwise agree with his Nazi views, consider him an absolute asshole they wouldn't piss on if he were set on fire by Jews.

 

[MidUSA]

I'm a connoisseur of Vox Day, and he is literally an advocate for the systemic elimination of all non-whites Turner Diaries-style and the virtual enslavement of all non-Anglo whites, as well as a return to theocratic monarchism and the wholesale dismantling of the US Constitution and Bill of Rights (he doesn't believe in rights in general, in fact). He is almost literally the White Supremacist boogeyman personified. Goddamn Stormfront doesn't want to be associated with his views. Regardless of other tactical decisions, distancing yourself from Vox Day is a decision that the vast majority of remotely-sane people from across the political spectrum can agree on. Read here to find out more.

Fair enough, and I did say I didn't know of Vox' position in particular.

I'm not critizising anyone for pushing back on Vox' trademark stunt. What's worrying me is how easy people slip into the same role as the SJW's who tries to smear them and throw them out of the industry, and act the same way against Jon del Arroz.

 

[Flexo]

He literally thinks people like Jon del Arroz should be exterminated for not being white.

It is ironic considering how much Vox pimps Jon who is supposedly writing for the comic line. I've seen on other websites some call JdA a vox puppet. Makes you wonder how sincere half the stuff Vox spews is.

 

[Steamboat_Bill]

It is ironic considering how much Vox pimps Jon who is supposedly writing for the comic line. I've seen on other websites some call JdA a vox puppet. Makes you wonder how sincere half the stuff Vox spews is.

Perhaps Vox just decides who's white and who's not?

 

[Flexo]

Perhaps Vox just decides who's white and who's not?

Maybe. Which is funny since he loves to brag about how non-white he is.

Perhaps this is all the most elaborate suicide note of all time.

 

[AJ 447]

It's their exact MO though.

- Oh those opinions is so horrible, you're literally Hitler, we cannot have you in this industry.

Nobody said he was "literally Hitler" or that he has no place in the industry. Nobody even out-and-out called Del Arroz a white nationalist that I can recall, although they did express that they were shocked and concerned that he was fine with ethnostates and believes in extreme race realism. Having a genuine emotional reaction to finding that out is also understandable to me, since Del Arroz is someone they like and have been friendly with. The SJW MO would be to actually call him a literal Nazi, blast that all over social media, try to get him kicked off social media, try to sabotage his comics, etc.

 

[MidUSA]

Nobody said he was "literally Hitler" or that he has no place in the industry. Nobody even out-and-out called Del Arroz a white nationalist that I can recall.

Pretty sure this Ro guy did at least. (Who is that asshole anyway? He's insufferable)

 

[AJ 447]

Pretty sure this Ro guy did at least. (Who is that asshole anyway? He's insufferable)

Well, I don't remember that, so if you can provide the video, that'd be great.

 

[MidUSA]

Well, I don't remember that, so if you can provide the video, that'd be great.

The slapfight starts somewhere around here

Roughly 2:33:00 if the embed embed fucks up.

Don't remember where in the video what is said unfortunatelly. It's about an hour of spergery.

 

[You Promised]

Looks like EVS should get rid of most of his sycophant entourage he's started to surround himself with these days.

Sycophants? Whatever do you mean?

https://youtu.be/6-fV-snyUKQ?t=1h1m20s
(I can't embed it here, "playback on other websites has been disabled by the video owner.")

 

[Medicated]

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Spoiler: Screen grabs from the video

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The source is this guy https://twitter.com/SSJLarryDavid, who IIRC has been suspended 3x already and is friends with SJWSpiderMan.

But wether these DMS are real or not they did show me this Rob character and he’s definitely a character. Judging from his timeline he’s either playing a bit or he’s nuts (https://twitter.com/RoKabir):
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This seems to be the most conclusive evidence of wether or not those DMs are real:
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EDIT:
Yaboi revealed the full EVS Variant for Jawbreakers LS:
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This was a similar thing that happened during GG. Guys who went around trolling either because they thought they were being funny playing a character and they think themselves some sort of super troll, or because they were mad GG wouldn't listen to them about "attack attack attack".

Then the anti-GG screencapped them to use as ammo for their articles and to share to their friends how the GG people were harassers.

These people just turned out to be useful idiots for anti-GG.

 

[damian]

Spoiler

https://twitter.com/artistbobstone/status/1038133911090606081

Always good to see the usual faces in the likes bar:

https://twitter.com/ObscureAaron/status/1038159651198521344 https://archive.fo/v7Qkx

Gasp, the logo designed by a Gamergater is a callback to Gamergate. Great detective work Jason, you really make us proud:

How exceptional do you have to be that you tie an obvious Green Lantern reference to Vox Day (checked his timeline, I don’t think he’s joking):

How quickly he starts backpedaling on the “it looks fascist my dudes” once the creator comes in:

"Wahh! People don't like me calling them fascists"

 

[Johnny Cab]

Who the hell even is Ro in the comics world? Does he write? Is he an artist? Looking at his twitter now and doing a quick search engine, I can't find anything put out by this guy.

Even if he's not as crazy as he seems, it's a mistake to give a really visible seat to people like him who have only opinions and no product... Which is exactly the shit you expect from the thinkpiece writing journoscum that provoked CG and GG into being in the first place.

Correct me if I'm wrong, I just cant find anything actually created by this guy that gives him skin in the game.

 

[AJ 447]

Goddamit, those logos are stupid, but calling them fascist looking is fucking dumb beyond belief. And these assholes do this every single time.

 

[damian]

Spoiler

Spoiler

 

[RockVolnutt]

Okay, let's say "Comicsgate" vanishes over night.....then what? If you continue current trajectory you end up with a dead industry and any attempt at changing course besides "MAYBE WE HAVEN'T ADDED ENOUGH WOMEN" would be proving them right.

The whole thing is tiresome.