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[IcyHotStuntaz]

Which is?...

Any hobby you can engage in without having screeching trans harpies shitting all over it's internet presence.

 

[Iwasamwillbe]

Any hobby you can engage in without having screeching trans harpies shitting all over it's internet presence.

So practically nothing then. Got it.

 

[IcyHotStuntaz]

So practically nothing then. Got it.

If all of your hobbies can be represented by a three month subscription to lootcrate.com, then yea, you're probably fucked.

 

[AnOminous]

So practically nothing then. Got it.

Lol wut are you on the spectrum?

Dry fly fishing.

Bowling.

Downhill skiing.

Three just random ones. Practically everything in the world but some nerd shit.

 

[LateNightComics]

Ethan Van Sciver on Twitter: "Dude, you’re mentally ill. Btw, TRUMP 2…

archived 2 May 2019 22:44:12 UTC

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Who the fuck cares?

If anyone is wondering why Renfamous got banned it was because of interacting with this.

Kind of a weird way to gay op dox a random dude really don't see how this relates to Ethan in any way. Decide for yourselves.

EDIT: Baby bones chimed in. Because of course he did.

 

[RockVolnutt]

http://archive.li/8Qp9u

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If anyone is wondering why Renfamous got banned it was because of interacting with this.
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Kind of a weird way to gay op dox a random dude really don't see how this relates to Ethan in any way. Decide for yourselves.

EDIT: Baby bones chimed in. Because of course he did.
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Is that even Ethan? I imagine it's not.

 

[Hatoful Dandy]

Some people will be REEing about Zack. Ethan and co. making a noticable impact on comic sales in the past year through crowdfunding.

"Ten Percent!"

 

[Jub-Jub]

He isn't. His worse offense (well besides being an annoying sperg himself) in this department is palling around with alt-right/anti-SJW spergs.

I kinda relate to what Odets is saying, Ethan tells A LOT of people to GFY, much like the Gail Simones of the world. However the people he tells to GFY come at him in bad faith, e.g. Durr Ethans book will have 88pages, NAZI confirmed or any masoggyknee/homophobe/whatever dogwhistle is thrown his way.

He's so good I STILL don't have a copy of Cyberfrog because he's too busy peacocking on YT to fucking finish something an inexperienced Goofy Dad managed to do in less than half the time and whose work I happily have in my bookshelf.

Just FYI, he's mentioned finishing in April with June shipping. I personally think he missed his end of April deadline by a few pages and should focus more on the book rather than peacocking, but it should almost be finalised.

EDIT: Baby bones chimed in. Because of course he did.

Is that even Ethan? I imagine it's not.

Probably not, although it's hilarious that they think a viable alt is Ethan switching his first and part of his last name (It's Van Sciver you idiots)

 

[AnOminous]

I kinda relate to what Odets is saying, Ethan tells A LOT of people to GFY, much like the Gail Simones of the world. However the people he tells to GFY come at him in bad faith, e.g. Durr Ethans book will have 88pages, NAZI confirmed or any masoggyknee/homophobe/whatever dogwhistle is thrown his way.

He's not obligated to be civil to people who literally want to kill his career and have him living under a bridge.

 

[Space_Ghost]

It's what I've been saying since this all started: EVS is no different from those whom he picks fights with and trash talks, except he's on the far-right end of the spectrum as opposed to the far-left. I won't deny the dude does have artistic talent, but with him, that's like painting a steaming hot turd gold and claiming it to be a 14 karat bullion when you take his attitude and the way he carries himself on social media into consideration. It's frustrating that he somehow gets a pass, when he's as much of a cow (if not a cow magnet) as the likes of Gail, Chuck Wendig, Mags, etc.

Frankly, I wouldn't be surprised if he has a fall from grace like Milo Yiannopoulous in the near future. It's only a matter of time at this point.

There are plenty of other right/center-right comic creators out there who don't act like gigantic spergs when dealing with their peers: it's largely how the likes of Bill Willingham, Mitch Brettweiser, and Ethan Nicolle have largely managed to avoid controversy and getting into fights constantly with others over the years in the industry. And even if they do get hit pieces put on them by Bleeding Cool or w/e, their reaction is to just shrug, ignore them, and keep working.

EVS Far-right? EVS is a fake conservative. He started kowtowing to SJWs back the moment he jumped in CG. "Noconservative politics in comics" "Trump books aren't CG" "Nerkish, you have to do something about your fans antisemitic edgelording, they'll make me look bad" every stance CG held before has been shifted because EVS cant stay consistent.

I gotta respectfully disagree. EVS does his share of shitposting, and may occasionally cross a line or two into temporary cowdom. But in no way, shape, form or universe for that matter, can a reasonable person compare him to the likes of Chuck Wendig, Mags and Gail Simone.

At some point WHAT you are saying/sperging/tweeting about is important. The anti-Comicsgate weirdos are about targeting, deplatforming and political correctness delivered with a Maoist verve. Ethan simply calls them out on it while selling his own books to make money. I got no problem with either of them.

Plus EVS, like his politics or not, has a 17 Charisma. The goofballs you listed are utterly revolting creatures. As for his "peers", most of them ran him out of the industry or silently watched and did nothing to help him. He's probably respectful to the ones that deserve it.

CG uses deplatforming just like SJWs. No one can say that CG is against deplatforming now. YF false flagged Renfamous off of Twitter saying she "misgendered" him. And EVS even sends his followers to mass flag accounts.

 

[Jub-Jub]

He started kowtowing to SJWs back the moment he jumped in CG. "Noconservative politics in comics" "Trump books aren't CG" "Nerkish, you have to do something about your fans antisemitic edgelording, they'll make me look bad" every stance CG held before has been shifted because EVS cant stay consistent.

I'll disagree with this too, EVS's position has always been let's make money. He has explained this position badly at times, but he doesn't think that alienating 1/2 your potential audience through right/left politics is a good way to make money i.e pro/anti trump books. The Nerkish thing is explained by guilt by association, EVS now relies on crowdfunding to feed his family. Kickstarter already has a polotik barrier for entry and he doesn't want IGG to follow. Guilt by association is already a huge tactic to de-platform people, Ethan should take any and all steps to prevent that, especially if he is making ~900k per year.

CG uses deplatforming just like SJWs. No one can say that CG is against deplatforming now. YF false flagged Renfamous off of Twitter saying she "misgendered" him. And EVS even sends his followers to mass flag accounts.

REEEEEEEE. OMG, how dare people have to play by the same stupid rules that they put in place.

 

[Space_Ghost]

I'll disagree with this too, EVS's position has always been let's make money. He has explained this position badly at times, but he doesn't think that alienating 1/2 your potential audience through right/left politics is a good way to make money i.e pro/anti trump books. The Nerkish thing is explained by guilt by association, EVS now relies on crowdfunding to feed his family. Kickstarter already has a polotik barrier for entry and he doesn't want IGG to follow. Guilt by association is already a huge tactic to de-platform people, Ethan should take any and all steps to prevent that, especially if he is making ~900k per year.


REEEEEEEE. OMG, how dare people have to play by the same stupid rules that they put in place.

EVS rakes it in on YouTube, he doesnt mainly rely on Crowdfunding. Before the Nerkish incident CG was all against letting SJW weirdos use guilt by association but the minute Nerkish wouldnt bend the knee for Ethan he abandoned that stance and became a coward afraid of SJWs associating him with fans of another person. "Ohmergerd Jew Jokes but I had a Sketch book called Mein Kampf" lol and yeah using SJW tactics like deplatforming when you say you stand against deplatforming makes you a hypocrite with zero credibility.

 

[Jub-Jub]

EVS rakes it in on YouTube, he doesnt mainly rely on Crowdfunding. Before the Nerkish incident CG was all against letting SJW weirdos use guilt by association but the minute Nerkish wouldnt bend the knee for Ethan he abandoned that stance and became a coward afraid of SJWs associating him with fans of another person. "Ohmergerd Jew Jokes but I had a Sketch book called Mein Kampf" lol and yeah using SJW tactics like deplatforming when you say you stand against deplatforming makes you a hypocrite with zero credibility.

I don't think his youtube revenue is anywhere close to the crowdfunding money he's got. I liked edgy Nerkish and I agree guilt by association is bullshit, but it's something people really have to consider due to internet bannings (The western social credit score is just around the corner and we'll all be fucked). Deplatforming is bullshit period, defeat enemies with debate and reasoning. It's hypocritical and shitty, however i won't hate someone for playing by the rules 'the enemy' has set.

What is even wrong with that giant gaping pussy of a man?

General consensus is that Rich is a salty bitch from never making it. He's always wanted to be a comics writer, but has been relegated to comics blogger for his entire career.

 

[KingofNothing]

CG uses deplatforming just like SJWs. No one can say that CG is against deplatforming now. YF false flagged Renfamous off of Twitter saying she "misgendered" him. And EVS even sends his followers to mass flag accounts.

You know what, fuck 'em. These cucks attack their indigogos and call them every name under the sun to get them kicked off shit. I could not give less of a fuck if YF wants to give someone like the whale a taste of their own medicine. And I am convinced that Quesada is using the beluga as a cudgel with the way he makes a point to chat it up with her.

 

[damian]

Gee that's a good idea, won't backfire at all:
https://www.oneangrygamer.net/2019/...-jim-game-due-to-his-anti-sjw-comments/83274/

 

[LateNightComics]

You know what, fuck 'em. These cucks attack their indigogos and call them every name under the sun to get them kicked off shit. I could not give less of a fuck if YF wants to give someone like the whale a taste of their own medicine. And I am convinced that Quesada is using the beluga as a cudgel with the way he makes a point to chat it up with her.

I don't think anyone cares how many blue party city wigs get hit with their own shit.
The issue is faking his own dox hoping to get the orcas to defend him.
Ethan is in fully pity-bucks mode I haven't seen tin cup rattling like this since page one of the thread.
Ethan will rally every sperg he can to defend him but he's running out of people he can effectively pay off or buy off. He's back in his mania mode and he's about to do something even more crazy and stupid - than what he normally does every day.

 

[Starscreams Cape]

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CG uses deplatforming just like SJWs. No one can say that CG is against deplatforming now. YF false flagged Renfamous off of Twitter saying she "misgendered" him. And EVS even sends his followers to mass flag accounts.

This is like someone taking swing after swing at you and you dodging each and every attempted blow. Finally you've had enough and pop the person on the beak only to hear them scream "ASSAULT!"

 

[KingofNothing]

Gee that's a good idea, won't backfire at all:
https://www.oneangrygamer.net/2019/...-jim-game-due-to-his-anti-sjw-comments/83274/
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If he's smart , Tommy Tallarico will that idiot to fuck off. They'll get better press from the youtube crowd anyway. Print is dead, hit up the YongYea's instead

I don't think anyone cares how many blue party city wigs get hit with their own shit.
The issue is faking his own dox hoping to get the orcas to defend him.
Ethan is in fully pity-bucks mode I haven't seen tin cup rattling like this since page one of the thread.
Ethan will rally every sperg he can to defend him but he's running out of people he can effectively pay off or buy off. He's back in his mania mode and he's about to do something even more crazy and stupid - than what he normally does every day.

What are you talking about? EVS is doing fine right now, he has that deal with Dynamite and he's just about finished drawing Cyberfrog. He doesn't seemed that concerned.

 

[Love Soze]

During his lives stream with Zack yesterday, EVS showed a preview of his Vampirella cover:

 

[damian]

IGG is acting questionable again:

IndieGoGo Reportedly Not Delivering Funds for Successful Crowdfunded Comic 'Rebel Yell #2' - Bounding Into Comics

Comic book creator Electric Dinosaur reports that IndieGoGo has not delivered them funds after their successful crowdfunding for Rebel Yell #2.

boundingintocomics.com

Comic book creator Electric Dinosaur reports that IndieGoGo has not delivered them funds after their successful crowdfunding for Rebel Yell #2.

Electric Dinosaur reported on Twitter, “IndieGoGo has had since Feb 21st to disperse the funds for our successfully crowdfunded Rebel Yell Issue #2, but they say that the comic has yet to be reviewed by their “Trust and Safety” Team? We’re still waiting folks.”

Rebel Yell #2 raised $541 from 18 backers. The comic features a masked hero named Rebel Yell who takes a stand in Vandal City after “malicious mobs” seek to destroy the traditions, symbols, and heroes of the past.

Rebel Yell isn’t the first comic that has had reported issues with IndieGoGo. Last October, IndieGoGo shut down Arkhaven Comics’s Alt-Hero: Q crowdfunding campaign after the issue began trending #1 on the crowdfunding platform site.

Backers for Alt-Hero: Q received a message from IndieGoGo stating their transactions for Alt-Hero: Q had been refunded. They also indicated that “IndieGoGo’s Trust and Safety Team determined this campaign didn’t comply with our Terms of Use.”

Alterna Comics publisher Peter Simeti also indicates he’s run into a similar problem as Electric Dinosaur with the Trust and Safety Team holding funds until they review the content.



Kevin Strange also reports he has not received funds after 13 days after his campaign ended.



Arkhaven Comics publisher Vox Day indicated to us that he was “looking into legal redress” against IndieGoGo back in October. A lawsuit was confirmed by Flying Sparks writer Jon Del Arroz. Del Arroz explained why he switched from crowdfunding on IndieGoGo to KickStarter for Flying Sparks Vol. 2:

“My publisher’s currently in a lawsuit with IndieGoGo over their deplatforming of Chuck Dixon’s Alt-Hero Q book, and so it wouldn’t make sense to use the platform.”

Del Arroz would also warn other comic book creators who are looking to crowdfund on IndieGoGo to not use the platform:

“The crowdfunding platform is not safe to use at all, and it appears they’re far more willing to take action on their own to harm creator owned comic projects. Use the site at your own risk.”

What do you make of this report that IndieGoGo is not delivering the funds raised by Electric Dinosaur for Rebel Yell #2?

I decided to keep an eye on the story because of a gut feeling and was unfortunately correct about what I was worried about:

Before:
Google Cache

After:
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/rebel-yell-issue-2#/ https://archive.fo/y8B0t

This guy got the full VoxDay treatment. His project reached it's small goal of $500 and just when it was finally over and he was about to cash out, IGG pulled the project and has started to refund the orders:
https://twitter.com/ElectrcDino12/status/1124039307424149504 https://archive.fo/Csgew

https://twitter.com/EvaUnit02NZ/status/1124413490058280960

Don't get me wrong, I don't give 2 shits about this guy's book but this type of shit infuriates me like nothing else. TBH the book looks like trash and it's about a dude in a confederate flag suit protecting statues from antifa types, it can't get any more autistic than that.

As much as I dislike VD, he should be able to sell his shit to anyone who's dumb enough to buy and so should this guy. Going over the details of the book I barely see anything Suspension worthy. Just taking a wild guess that it's the Confederate Flag that did it, which is peculiar since IGG had no problems with the crowdfund for the 1st issue:
Google Cache

Why didn't they axe it immediately like KickStarter did? :
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/electricdinosaur/rebel-yell-issue-1 https://archive.fo/ubU0p

HA, as I was writing this Bounding did their article, they cover pretty much what I just did, but didnt go into the Google Caches nor the previous attempts at this project:
https://boundingintocomics.com/2019/05/03/indiegogo-suspends-rebel-yell-issue-2/

Spoiler

IndieGoGo has suspended the Rebel Yell Issue #2 campaign and backers for the project are already reporting they are receiving refunds on their transactions.

Twitter user EvaUnit02NZ posted a screenshot from IndieGoGo indicating their transaction for Rebel Yell Issue #2 had been refunded. The email also indicates that “IndieGoGo’s Trust and Safety Team determined this campaign didn’t comply with our Terms of Use. You’ll no longer receive any perks associated with this transaction.”



The campaign is also no longer searchable on IndieGoGo’s website. However, the campaign page is still active. On the top of the page it reads, “This campaign is under review. It is not accepting contributions.”

The page also indicates the campaign had been suspended. (Archive link: http://archive.is/y8B0t)



ElectricDinosaur, the creator of Rebel Yell, reported that the campaign and their account had been suspended. They also noted that they are “intending to fulfill all our prior orders for free, as our thanks to y’all for ‘sticking with us.'”



We previously reported that IndieGoGo had refused to disperse funds to Electric Dinosaur following the successful crowdfunding campaign for Rebel Yell Issue #2. The comic had raised $541 from 18 backers.

The comic features a masked hero named Rebel Yell who takes a stand in Vandal City after “malicious mobs” seek to destroy the traditions, symbols, and heroes of the past.

This isn’t the first comic book crowdfunding campaign to be shutdown. IndieGoGo is reportedly facing a class action lawsuit after they shut down Arkhaven Comics’ Alt-Hero: Q crowdfunding campaign.

The lawsuit was confirmed by Flying Sparks writer Jon Del Arroz who told us why he switched from using IndieGoGo to KickStarter, “My publisher’s currently in a lawsuit with IndieGoGo over their deplatforming of Chuck Dixon’s Alt-Hero Q book, and so it wouldn’t make sense to use the platform.”

Del Arroz also noted that the lawsuit is going “excellent!” He adds, “They’re in big trouble because what they’re doing is illegal.”



Not only is IndieGoGo facing a lawsuit, but a number of other comic book creators who were funding crowdfunding projects on IndieGoGo indicated they had not received payment from IndieGoGo following their campaigns.





What do you make of IndieGoGo suspending the Rebel Yell Issue #2 crowdfunding campaign? Will this make you wary of backing products on IndieGoGo in the future?

Sure enough if you search around you can find some SJW reeeeeee-ing about the first book:
https://archive.fo/RAoXb

I'm guessing the 2nd issue also got some reeeeeee-ing out there.