#Comicsgate - The Culture Wars Hit The Funny Books!

[KingofNothing]

Probably not going to happen. Unlike others already documented above, Warcampaign hasn't stabbed him in the back as others have. Warcampaign stood with him even when he was lied to and tricked into thinking they were guilty of things they were not. And since he's now at $240,000 in 4 hours and only 31 days left to go, I see no reason he should. It's pretty apparent that he has plenty of audience behind him and it's only going to keep growing.

No one has to like him. Some sure don't. But the numbers don't lie. The drama, Warcampaign, whatever. What he is doing works. Like it, hate it or be indifferent to it.

WC gets off of the attention they get from Ethan, they'll get the knives out once it stops being fun or do something stupid enough that he can't possibly ignore. Ro's lucky that Ethan keeps brushing off his antics.

 

[WhimsicalTrolli]

CG WINS THATS WHAT WE DO GET ON BOARD THIS TRAIN!!!

Stealing solo? Detective dead? Lady alchemy? Books that are almost a year late? Multiple great artist leaving to the point cg is left with the anti sjw channels that Ethan said that was a dead phase? Yeah total winners.

But Cyberfrog will always make a good amount of money but its the variant covers that Ethan continues doing (but preaches that variant covers killed marvel and dc) is the one I'm wondering how that would go. And congrats on the 250k by the way.

 

[Wenger]

Something a lot of outsiders don't see is that there are smaller campaigns that are getting funded constantly.

Stealing solo? Detective dead? Lady alchemy? Books that are almost a year late? Multiple great artist leaving to the point cg is left with the anti sjw channels that Ethan said that was a dead phase? Yeah total winners.

But Cyberfrog will always make a good amount of money but its the variant covers that Ethan continues doing (but preaches that variant covers killed marvel and dc) is the one I'm wondering how that would go. And congrats on the 250k by the way.

I don't know anything about those guys. If you wanna see winning it's happening weekly on WENGCAST!

 

[KingofNothing]

300k in less than 12 hours

 

[jspit]

Jesus Christ @FROG , it hasn't even been 4 hours. Why are you even bothering getting into so many internet slapfights and crying to get onto Andy's stream when you can just sell frog books? Just sell the frog books, that's clearly the money move here. Also drop Ro and War Campaign in general like a bad habit if he's gonna do stupid shit like using a person's address as a threat
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Wait, what? Looks like another WC might be in court.

What the fuck is the matter with you? What planet do you live on?

Any reason for the freak out there? You live stream so much you lose your mind?

300k in less than 12 hours
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Is that a good spread. 300 grand off of two thousand backers?

For example, 737 of them backed at the 200 dollar tier. By my math, that comes out to 147,400 dollars of his sales. An additional 20 backers account for 33,000 of the total, in gimmicks such as survivor and original artwork tiers.

Probably not going to happen. Unlike others already documented above, Warcampaign hasn't stabbed him in the back as others have. Warcampaign stood with him even when he was lied to and tricked into thinking they were guilty of things they were not. And since he's now at $240,000 in 4 hours and only 31 days left to go, I see no reason he should. It's pretty apparent that he has plenty of audience behind him and it's only going to keep growing.

No one has to like him. Some sure don't. But the numbers don't lie. The drama, Warcampaign, whatever. What he is doing works. Like it, hate it or be indifferent to it.

Oh stop pretending you aren't a fucking member.

 

[Gee Willows Wilson!]

Guessing something was said or done in Ethan's recent stream with Yaboi and Cecil, because it's down already.

Was looking forward to seeing this one, Yaboi is always a treat.

 

[Mister Dongs]

Guessing something was said or done in Ethan's recent stream with Yaboi and Cecil, because it's down already.

Was looking forward to seeing this one, Yaboi is always a treat.

Just the rest of the stream trying to restrain EVS from going full dark roast on CAPS.

Top content though was 10m - 38m on this stream where we get to watch every livestreaming-related nightmare in Ethan's life happen simultaneously.

Spoiler

 

[Smug Freiza]

Warcampaign stood with him even when he was lied to and tricked into thinking they were guilty of things they were not.

It's pretty apparent that he has plenty of audience behind him and it's only going to keep growing.

Warcampaign has been caught lying red handed on several occasions. Ro lying on stream to Ethans face when he was caught DMing with Renfamous during the Jon Del Arroz incident. Warcampaign clipped footage of Crypto Comics stream and made it look like he said he wanted backer info from IGG to dox all of CG, when he really said he just wanted to dox Panboy (Matt Hanson.) Even more recently Reinoe was caught out by faking discord screenshots implying that Fan Advocacy Network was a pedophile and had CP.

I don't deny that over 300K in one day isn't impressive, thats over 3 times what Earthworm Jim made in its first day. However the campaign isn't over yet and is currently sitting at around 2500 backers. I would be interested to see what this campaign finishes at in terms of backers rather than dollar amount and if the majority of CG has backed in the first day massively front loading this campaign. I guess we'll have to wait and see.

Warski's an ineffective coked out autist but he has some potential to deal real damage to Comicsgate. And all he has to do is tell the truth. Just point to the very existence of Warcampaign, the sperg drama between CG members, all of that.

Agreed, Andy Warski's nine live's must rival that of Darksyde Phil. The guy has had mental breakdowns on stream, may or may not have got nudes off underage girls, then the whole "Florida Incident" last year, the trouble Andy seems to get himself into would destroy anyones reputation but he somehow manages to come out of it relatively undamaged. His dealt with SJWs for years, the mainstream media popularizing him as an alt-right figurehead, had numerous communities from the chans to the Farms out to get him and yet he keeps on chugging along. If Warcampaign thinks that dildo memes are going to be an effective strategy to get him to back off, they are gravely mistaken. Worse still, if Andy and Geek actually put out some decent content on the underbelly of autism that exists in CG, this will only attract the attention of other larger personalities to the spectacle. Mister Metokur was rumored to be working on a Comicsgate video months ago and if others like EZPZ, Ethan Ralph, The Internet Historian and Mr Obvious feel like this shitshow is a good chance for ad revenue or clout then Andy Warski could be the least of CGs problems.

CG WINS THATS WHAT WE DO GET ON BOARD THIS TRAIN!!!

All aboard the autism train, toot toot!

Stealing solo? Detective dead? Lady alchemy? Books that are almost a year late? Multiple great artist leaving to the point cg is left with the anti sjw channels that Ethan said that was a dead phase? Yeah total winners.

From what I've heard, TUGs book was a steaming pile of dogshit too and I'm sure other recent entries like Wart the Wizard will only help cement CG's reputation for "quality comics."

I don't know anything about those guys. If you wanna see winning it's happening weekly on WENGCAST!

Hard pass.

Is that a good spread. 300 grand off of two thousand backers?

For example, 737 of them backed at the 200 dollar tier. By my math, that comes out to 147,400 dollars of his sales. An additional 20 backers account for 33,000 of the total, in gimmicks such as survivor and original artwork tiers.

It would appear so. The third Cyberfrog: Team Up Variant raised just over $250K with around 4800 backers, so this campaign has achieved a much higher value with less people, which means people are paying for higher tiers.

I would like to point out how the perks in this campaign seem far worse for value.

*The $25 single book option in this campaign comes unsigned (in fact I believe none of the books are signed at any tier) and without the frog sticker compared to the previous campaign.
*The $100 headsketch tier in this campaign only contains 1 book, as opposed to the original campaign which included the book, the 1998 ashcan of the $50 tier and the sticker.
*The $200 executive tier is by far the worst offender. You receive the Rekt Planet Book, the Salamandroid comic, The Special Edition of Bloodhoney and the Cyberfrog Numb comic in a special box. 4 comics and a box for $200. However with the $200,000 stretch goal unlocked, all backers will now receive Cyberfrog Numb for free at any tier. Meaning the Executive backers are essentially paying $150 for the special edition Bloodhoney and a box, its even worse for International Backers who will have to pay $40 for shipping. So really just buying Rekt planet and adding on Salamandroid at checkout will get you Cyberfrog Numb for free with $15 international shipping. Thats $65 compared to $240 and all you will be missing out on is yet another copy of Bloodhoney and a cardboard box.

 

[WhimsicalTrolli]

EZPZ

The encyclopedia Dramatica admin who broke the story of casting couches and nepotism in the American animation industry? Making vids on cg might be up.

Mister Metokur was rumored to be working on a Comicsgate video months ago

We'll see how the andy docu-series turns out, coronachan got Jims interest for the remainder of the year. Maybe when pan goes to jail or big cger does something as stupid as cridious ill expect a video.

CG's reputation for "quality comics."

Most of cg's books are not quality comics, the grifters saw a movement, usual idiots and ran. The books might look good but the stories are lackluster, nasser is probably the most notable writer while the grifters just pay artists and writers (like tug and you should check out some of his old writing the laughing man discovered on the tug thread...youll see why he paid people to write and draw his book.

 

[Geekthulhu]

@Smug Freiza We already have a nice guest lined up for the next show we do on Comicsgate.

Originally we just planned to goof on EVS because he is a bit of a lolcow and a raw nerve that responds to every little comment (I think that nigga got them Google Alerts for his name). Much like The Quartering, then as I started looking more into him... I was shocked at the things that him and his orbitors were up to (doxing, swatting, IRL stalking, sabotaging other creator campaigns, etc). Things that many of the supporters (skeptics and anti SJWs) of his "ideology" a couple of years ago would of torn him up and cast him out.

We aren't done with him yet... We are gonna go hard on Comicsgate and bring up every issue of scummy behavior to light. Originally it was gonna be about EVS, but honestly... The more I look at him and Comicsgate. The more I see it as Comicsgate has been turned into an EVS Cult. It isn't about the consumer. It is about feeding his ego and his bank account.

 

[verissimus]

Ro lying on stream to Ethans face when he was caught DMing with Renfamous during the Jon Del Arroz incident.

Huh?!

Oh ffs...this thread is going to get extra gay fast.

 

[Detrogen]

Huh?!

Yeah I remember this. I don’t remember the specifics but there was a huge blowout between WC and Del Arroz. Ethan brought Ro and Del Arroz on stream to hash it out and Ro basically spent the whole time attacking John, calling him a “racist” and such. It later turned out to be a gay op by WC. Everything Ro said was a lie and all the DMs he showed were proven fake.

 

[Mister Dongs]

Huh?

Oh yeah, that was when Renfamous posted her DMs of Ro Kabir begging her for Jon Del Arroz' dox.

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@Smug Freiza We already have a nice guest lined up for the next show we do on Comicsgate.

Originally we just planned to goof on EVS because he is a bit of a lolcow and a raw nerve that responds to every little comment (I think that nigga got them Google Alerts for his name). Much like The Quartering, then as I started looking more into him... I was shocked at the things that him and his orbitors were up to (doxing, swatting, IRL stalking, sabotaging other creator campaigns, etc). Things that many of the supporters (skeptics and anti SJWs) of his "ideology" a couple of years ago would of torn him up and cast him out.

We aren't done with him yet... We are gonna go hard on Comicsgate and bring up every issue of scummy behavior to light. Originally it was gonna be about EVS, but honestly... The more I look at him and Comicsgate. The more I see it as Comicsgate has been turned into an EVS Cult. It isn't about the consumer. It is about feeding his ego and his bank account.

Word to the wise, you two need to tighten up your content because as it stands you're not even the best anti-CG channel out there. You're somewhere between Preston Poulter and Comic Book Hut. Asking people to dedicate 50+ hours going over what Ethan's sperg squad gets up to to win over the hearts and minds of "skeptics" who don't buy comics and aren't a platform for CG isn't going to change shit.

 

[verissimus]

Yeah I remember this. I don’t remember the specifics but there was a huge blowout between WC and Del Arroz. Ethan brought Ro and Del Arroz on stream to hash it out and Ro basically spent the whole time attacking John, calling him a “racist” and such. It later turned out to be a gay op by WC. Everything Ro said was a lie and all the DMs he showed were proven fake.

I'll say this one last time, what is the point of War Campaign?

 

[Smug Freiza]

The encyclopedia Dramatica admin who broke the story of casting couches and nepotism in the American animation industry? Making vids on cg might be up.

Thats him.

We'll see how the andy docu-series turns out, coronachan got Jims interest did the remainder of the year. Maybe when pan goes to jail or big cg does something as stupid as cridious ill expect a video.

Pan going to jail would definitely catch the attention of a lot of youtubers who focus on internet drama, however in the chat that Andy and Geek streamed he seemed to imply his lawyer thought he would get off easily. I'm also not sure what the sentence would be for cyberstalking in that particular state, he could just get community service for all I know. Jim's channel got a strike again recently for copyright, so the comfy Corona streams will probably be on hiatus for a while.

Most of cg's books are not quality comics, the grifters saw a movement, usual idiots and ran. The books might look good but the stories are lackluster, nasser is probably the most notable writer while the grifters just pay artists and writers (like tug and you should check out some of his old writing the laughing man discovered on the tug thread...youll see why he paid people to write and draw his book.

I thought Bigfoot Bill, Lonestar and even Flying Sparks were all pretty good. Trump Space Force was an enjoyable read but nothing spectacular. Graveyard Shift was okay, not terrible but nothing special either. Ravage Kill All Men had an interesting premise but its art was pretty subpar on some pages. Jawbreakers has a lot of potential but the timeline of events is all over the fucking place, once Richard releases more books I'm sure it will make more sense. Iron Sights was complete and utter trash, I've got 3 copies hopefully our Boi will make it big one day and it will be a sought after cult classic from his underground days. I haven't got around to reading Cyberfrog, Stardust, Trixie Cain, Black & White, Berserkonaut, Jack Irons, Jungle Comics or Blue Mamba yet.

I've been reading through the TUG thread lately, but its still early days.

@Smug Freiza We already have a nice guest lined up for the next show we do on Comicsgate.

Oh a nice guest lined up? Anybody we know?

Originally we just planned to goof on EVS because he is a bit of a lolcow and a raw nerve that responds to every little comment (I think that nigga got them Google Alerts for his name). Much like The Quartering, then as I started looking more into him... I was shocked at the things that him and his orbitors were up to (doxing, swatting, IRL stalking, sabotaging other creator campaigns, etc). Things that many of the supporters (skeptics and anti SJWs) of his "ideology" a couple of years ago would of torn him up and cast him out.

"Beware that, when fighting monsters, you youself do not become a monster... for when you gaze long into the abyss. The abyss gazes also into you." Certain elements of CG could have learnt a lot from Nietzsche.

Huh?!

Oh ffs...this thread is going to get extra gay fast.

When Warcampaign is involved, extra gayness is guaranteed.

Yeah I remember this. I don’t remember the specifics but there was a huge blowout between WC and Del Arroz. Ethan brought Ro and Del Arroz on stream to hash it out and Ro basically spent the whole time attacking John, calling him a “racist” and such. It later turned out to be a gay op by WC. Everything Ro said was a lie and all the DMs he showed were proven fake.

It should be in the thread around page 400-500, I don't really have the time to dig for it. Basically Ro was DMing with Renfamous trying to run gay ops against Jon Del Arroz. Renfamous outed Ro, who then claimed her DMs were fake and photo-shopped. It was later proved he was lying, I remember he took a break from CG for awhile after that and gave the WC channel to Panboy, ImNotTyler and Colonel Comics (I wonder whatever happened to him?), but then he came back and everyone just forgot about it.

 

[cow-wannabe]

Seriously?

This entire peace thing has nothing to do with comics. It's the non-tankie left trying a more reasonable approach with marginals and centrists as it's a US election year. It's going on everywhere.

This fantasy that CG is some prize they want is a nonsense. In reality it's a shambling, diseased zombie that the mainstream is offering the non-wingnuts a means of social distancing from.

 

[Geekthulhu]

@Smug Freiza Yes it is someone that you all know of. I don't want to announce who it is until we nail down the actual date.

@Mister Dongs I agree. We definitely need to tighten up the info. We had some technical difficulties at the beginning that threw a wrench in the works. Just also keep in mind... We aren't an Anti-Comicsgate channel and our personal views aren't actually anti-comicsgate. I agree with the core tenants of the movement. I just feel that it has been co-opted by a narcissist.

 

[Jub-Jub]

The encyclopedia Dramatica admin who broke the story of casting couches and nepotism in the American animation industry? Making vids on cg might be up.

Pretty sure that's @oddish so you could ask him.

I'll say this one last time, what is the point of War Campaign?

They are just a bunch of re.tards who branded in order to get daddy's attention. It worked. Now that they have his attention they won't let anybody take their "rightful" place. Enter nonstop gayops against anybody they dislike.

@Smug Freiza We already have a nice guest lined up for the next show we do on Comicsgate.

Originally we just planned to goof on EVS because he is a bit of a lolcow and a raw nerve that responds to every little comment (I think that nigga got them Google Alerts for his name). Much like The Quartering, then as I started looking more into him... I was shocked at the things that him and his orbitors were up to (doxing, swatting, IRL stalking, sabotaging other creator campaigns, etc). Things that many of the supporters (skeptics and anti SJWs) of his "ideology" a couple of years ago would of torn him up and cast him out.

We aren't done with him yet... We are gonna go hard on Comicsgate and bring up every issue of scummy behavior to light. Originally it was gonna be about EVS, but honestly... The more I look at him and Comicsgate. The more I see it as Comicsgate has been turned into an EVS Cult. It isn't about the consumer. It is about feeding his ego and his bank account.

Has anybody even paid attention to you boys since Andy's galaxy brained live-stream looking at CP?

Here's my prediction of how it's going to go down: You'll get some anti sped like Preston to piss and moan about WC doing gay-ops, none of which will be linked directly to EVS, except for the fact that they are autistic fans of his. Your streams will be disliked, spammed and if you have other social media you'll get shitty dick meme shops sent. You might get some small boost in numbers and chats for a short time. The stream will also be shit, like the recent one as some posts above report.

EVS will milk you for content and earn far more shekels doing it. This will continue for however long and you'll continue to be a joke on their stream, while you stay irrelevant.

 

[Mister Dongs]

I'll say this one last time, what is the point of War Campaign?

I went into what Warcampaign is in detail in this post, but what it is is the political stance of the "revolutionary vanguard", applied to comics. To say there's no rationale to what they're doing is simply untrue. Maybe authoritarian factions emerging in revolutionary movements is axiomatic in nature. The more interesting question is what does EVS actually get out of all this because some cringe factory that has appointed itself as political commissars for your brand while larping as homosexual caricatures is both ideological betrayal and ultimately economic self-sabotage. Every person repelled from Comicsgate, every platform no longer giving a shout out to CG crowdfunds. is a loss when you're dealing with a networked crowdfunding business model. It makes no sense.

But Ethan actually alluded as to why why he does a few hundred pages ago in this thread.
Essentially, with his perspective as a participant in the comic book community for 26+ years, he knows that mentally ill retards and people on the lower end of the IQ bell curve that are unable to grasp higher concepts, wandering around, forming groups and causing problems, aren't a "potential problem"; they're an inevitability. Trying to stick handle them as individuals is a fool's errand, and there's always the possibility of someone turning some lunatic against you, like Hamas sending a suicide soldier with downs syndrome at their enemies.

What Warcampaign does is impose a loose measure of control and organization on barely functional psychopaths like Liam Gray or Sketch Therapy and the countless mongs like @The Wisdom of Bassets who are just locked into culture war but not able to grasp higher concepts. The sort of people who just want to show up somewhere, get some quick programming and shit it up on this thread. If Warcampaign didn't exist, these guys still would be out there in the online comics world after all, except they'd flip loyalties because they misinterpreted some basic idea Ethan was trying to convey and got angry, or felt like simping for Renfamous, or doing god knows what in EVS' name with no oversight. Instead of making content, CG would be dealing with this shit non-stop. Ro gladly does this normally unenviable job because it feeds into his megalomania. And who knows, maybe Ro has stopped the really insane shit from happening and making sure word of it never got out. In other words, Warcampaign is structured to protect EVS from the biggest threats to EVS and Comicsgate, which is the unchecked members of Warcampaign.

 

[jspit]

Just the rest of the stream trying to restrain EVS from going full dark roast on CAPS.

Top content though was 10m - 38m on this stream where we get to watch every livestreaming-related nightmare in Ethan's life happen simultaneously.

Spoiler

Is it back up? Holy shit its over four hours long. I'm not listening to that. Someone highlights please.

It would appear so. The third Cyberfrog: Team Up Variant raised just over $250K with around 4800 backers, so this campaign has achieved a much higher value with less people, which means people are paying for higher tiers.

I was interested in it so I looked last night and when I saw that box thing I did the back of the envelop math. That's when the gut punch settled in. Comic books are just dead. All that's left is a small core of people spending more money on Brik brak. Damn, it hurt just typing that.