#Comicsgate - The Culture Wars Hit The Funny Books!

[WhimsicalTrolli]

Dan just wanted to talk about comics not be in the middle of a civil war. It is a bad year for former pros to hop into the cg circle and sean and todd prove you don't need to be part of a drama clique to give successful on igg. @FROG you shouldn't end the stream don't silence people.

 

[Odets]

He often talked about Shill Media and he talks about how they are losing their power as a broken phone between entertainment companies and consumers (and consumers to consumers) and how their backlash against the SnyderCut is because they are losing their influence. And, in true Zack fashion, he threw in some obscure reference from his past work experience - only this time it was IT instead of army.
Not his best video of 2020 but it really fits what he was saying all along.

Bruh "the backlash" is minimal. It's literally slow day at the shill office. Snyder cut was never the part of this whole sjw circus so of course it's nothing. you can even compare it to the backlash against the new Ghostbusters reboot and see how little the Snyder cut backlashes is in comparison. The SquareHead is simply prepping the stage to quit making it look like he didn't fail and did something worthwhile.
I can buy this being hid best video though. after all his content has been shit since America got cancelled

 

[Smug Freiza]

Can I just say, whether or not Preston is just simply trying to scare Ethan and that he might not know what he's talking about, that everything else that's happening these past few days has been a fucking nutfuck of a rollercoaster?

Malin's having a fucking war with WC in everyone's chat. From WarCampaign stream, to Liamstream, to EVS stream. #UNMASKCECIL seems to be trending with the crowd. Ro also took a shot at the people who "spend all their time on YouTube and can't get more than a book out in a year".

Seems like the cuck porn really didn't bandage over the ongoing feud.

This past week has been absolutely amazing.
*Preston gets outed by Sheila Allen as a cuck and the thread makes front page news.
*Sheila Allen in turn gets outed as a prostitute.
*Praetorian re-emerges and drops a video describing the internal workings of Warcampaign.
*McCheese pretends to be some random dude and trolls TUG to the point of nearly having a meltdown on Liams stream.
*Panboy and Malin's feud comes back into the spotlight and they almost go at each other on Liams stream.
*McCheese has an interview with Praetorian which details everything from gayops, target selection, dick pick collection to possibly having moles here on the Farms.
*Ethan has a stream which is an absolute trainwreck and blows up in his face, he also shows some gay costume (literally) that was in his ebay search history and tries to play it off as a joke. Just accept who you are big guy.

I'm sure there's other stuff I've missed but it's been an incredible week for Comicsgate, I can't wait to see what happens tomorrow. This Mecha McCheese seems like an interesting character as well, I enjoyed a stream Dong's shared which had him on DarkGifts channel a month ago.

From EVS's stream, Cecil did NOT know that Gat and other WC guys were involved in gay oping Nerkish. He always thought it was just Praetorian.

Cecil's piecing shit together in his drunkard brain. Much like how Vikki was doxed randomly, I assume Cecil's dox is gonna be dropped, if not by one of our own, then by the socks of WC here.

@This_is_a_Throwaway drop the fat, drunk clowns dox already and get it over with, we all want to see what skeletons are in Cecil's closet.

What happened here was Frog dramatically overestimating his command of the facts regarding Praetorian and the Nerkish debacle. He thought this was going to play out like Liam taking the piss out of Praetorian's denouncement of Warcampaign and Frog on VikkiVerse and Mecha McCheese's channels. At some point in Frog's mind, Praetorian being a scapegoat for WC's gayops and manipulation of him ceased being a convenient truth that allowed him to avoid hard choices and triggering his most deepset personal insecurities, and became instead a firmly accepted objective truth. So confident was Frog that he felt he was going to nip the growing WC/JACK conflict in the bud by inviting Cecil and Malin to join in on refuting Praetorian's narrative and preempt them from repeating any such claims themselves in the future, with Mecha McCheese to serve as devil's advocate and Sketch Therapy as backup and expert in all things "Anti-CG", both real and imagined.

It should be said that Cecil and Malin are bereft of any real arguments and ideology of their own, which is what has allowed them to survive in Comicsgate under Frog's wing by being unable to have conflicts based on ideas or thoughts on what Comicsgate should be. Instead they operate mostly on reciprocated loyalty and this has generally allowed Frog to have his way with them when it comes to disputes and arguments. But what he failed to consider was that once that tie of loyalty was broken, as their ties with WC have been, there's no common ground whatsoever holding them together.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=kJewoQ8Zpf8
Things start to fall apart when Jon Malin joins in and rather than the passive, malleable mind Frog expected, kicks in the door saying he's already watched the stream that Frog hasn't seen himself and is surprised that Frog is disobeying Ro's orders for a total blackout for the Praetorian expose as "the video Ro doesn't want anyone in CG to see". Cecil comes out a long, seething silence to say sarcastically that "Warcampaign never doxes", which McCheese offers his receipts of WC member Sheila Allen sending him phishing links. Frog, nervously sensing the common ground building between McCheese, Cecil and Malin throws out an attack on Praetorian's character and his crimes upon Comicsgate and Frog. Only Sketch responds positively. Malin laughs at Frog, saying that "internal criticism" and "investigating finances" with crowdfunds like Lonestar or Vampirella covers are only made one way as Warcampaign have refused to answer any of Praetorian's allegations regarding Vestige's payout structure.

Frog clearly wants to start roasting the Praetorian video as Liam did, but McCheese keeps cutting him off for "childish ad hominems" before he can frame Praetorian as a treacherous liar, and he's getting no help from any of his other panelists. Sketch starts yelling about how he was also scapegoated by Warcampaign for the gayops against Nerkish, but he in turn cut off by Frog who recounts the "official" recollection of events regarding the "CG Anon" account that deceived Frog into dropping Nerkish for his anti-semitic discord content (with screencaps of Thomas Roiloup in discord, who can now officially take credit for destroying Comicsgate) and about how at the behest of "CG Anon" he warned Nerkish about his dox and anti-semitic content but later realized how this came across as him blackmailing and intimidating Nerkish out of CG. They review the claim that Praetorian wasn't the only person to use the "CG Anon" account; Gat Hanzo also used it to distribute kompromat to Frog and Renfamous.

Cecil pipes up that this means that WC core command gayop'd Nerkish out of CG and delayed Cash Grab for two years while pretending to be his friend. Sketch Therapy hears the clip about how Warcampaign use him as a patsy for all their activities and unwittingly launder responsibility for their gayops. Frog repeats that Praetorian is an untrustworthy source, but all this clearly bears the ring of truth to people more intimately connected with the affair like Sketch and Cecil. Such as how "Praetorian" got Sketch Therapy blamed for the Nerkish op and kicked from WC, which nonsensically withstood after Praetorian was removed. Or how Sketch's sounding the alarm to Frog and TUG weren't acted on (because Frog dismisses Sketch as a conspiracy theorist and TUG was complicit with the whole thing).

When it was clear that he was losing Sketch Therapy, the colossal scale of Frog's misplay started to sink in. Even Dan Fraga quietly admitted he had watched the Praetorian video and was better prepared than he was for this. Malin started talking about how Fraga was next on their list because "he jumped the gate" and Cecil only doubled down about how he sees through Ro and Pan and that they are trash and always have been. Seeing no way out of this, Frog quickly announced that he was shutting down the stream immediately.

Never not post your thoughts Mister Dongs.

So what does Ro have on Ethan?

Capeknight answers your question below.

Oh I understand what you're saying.

I should have probably suggested that Cecil is now "putting shit together in his drunkard brain" meant that since he was complicit back then, he's now pinpointed Gat, who he claimed on the livestream he did not know was involved (I probably should have clarified that I doubted this as well). The basement dweller is scanning for any possible names he can use. Gat was having a meltdown in the WarCampaign stream. "Keep my name out of your fucking mouth!" as he put it. Liam Gray was there in the chat trying to butter up, and he got a firm warning from Ro to keep WC shit out of his stream. Liam's reply in the chat was simply:

"It was a learning experience"

Bitch, how many of these guys keep fucking saying "it's a learning experience" or "I'm still learning as I go"? Everyone's pulling everything out of Ethan's lying books here.

Ro probably has the records of Ethan's homosexual activities.

After all, this did show up in the stream at some point, and Ethan tried to laugh it off: https://twitter.com/thomasroiloup/status/1264816637443743746
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Having something like that in your ebay search history which then makes you have to joke about why it's there with an embarrassed look on your face, that's at least several homo suspicion points Ethan's racked up in my books. Maybe @LateNightComic's rumors of Ethan and pizza parlors is more than just rumors.

 

[Absurdity]

This show got awesome toward the end.

Watch just Ethan's face for the last ten minutes.

Gold.

He's "never been happier!"

 

[CapeKnight]

This past week has been absolutely amazing.
*Preston gets outed by Sheila Allen as a cuck and the thread makes front page news.

This is something that has puzzled me for a bit. How the fuck did all the shenanigans of ComicsGate not ever make front page news on KiwiFarms, but a literal nobody like Preston Poulter does?

I would have thought that Ethan ripping off his customers with fake frog coins to buy a Jabba the Hutt figure would have at least been much more hilarious.

Really thunk-provoking. Maybe, the moles on the Farms theory actually is bigger than we thought?

 

[Odets]

Cecil and Malin are definently out in the next 2-3 months. My question is how long till Froggot will pull his autistic backpedaling on Ro and say that he didn't know that talking about certain people with him will lead to Ro gayoping. he will certainly try to cut Ro at one point just to squeeze some Babyface points and have a fresh start. The question is when

This is something that has puzzled me for a bit. How the fuck did all the shenanigans of ComicsGate not ever make front page news on KiwiFarms, but a literal nobody like Preston Poulter does?

The internet is for porn, and that goes for everything. But you can't deny that Froggot does get more benefit of the doubt from KF

 

[KingofNothing]

Fall of Rome v2.0 stream fucking when? Told ya about WarCampaign bro. They're nothing but problems. Every time there's internal drama, those dumbasses were in the middle of it somehow. Hope you guys enjoy the empire burning around you because you ignored the clowns running around with flamethrowers until you specifically had a problem with them. Should have listened to Zack over a year ago when he said dump the drama and get off twitter.

This is something that has puzzled me for a bit. How the fuck did all the shenanigans of ComicsGate not ever make front page news on KiwiFarms, but a literal nobody like Preston Poulter does?

I would have thought that Ethan ripping off his customers with fake frog coins to buy a Jabba the Hutt figure would have at least been much more hilarious.

Really thunk-provoking. Maybe, the moles on the Farms theory actually is bigger than we thought?

That's because no one outside the thread gives a shit about CG drama. I'm almost certain null had be to tagged about Preston to get that pin otherwise that probably would have gone unnoticed too.

 

[glbtev]

https://fetlife.com/groups/141/posts/16404645

This is getting really stupid. You showed that the pay wall clips were connected to Preston but you show no proof that misterp who posted to Xham is Preston. Anyone can pirate porn make up a name and post it as their own on a tube site.

Do you have anything connecting MISTERP to Preston or his business like you had connecting him to the pay site?

If you do, please share that. If you don't please stop acting like it proves anything about who posted on Xhamster.

If you have actual proof just show it.

MisterP Preston on Fetlife is also misterp on xhamster. :mild shock:

https://fetlife.com/groups/18193/posts/828601
https://web.archive.org/web/2016011....com/movies/417394/how_to_break_your_man.html

Spoiler

https://fetlife.com/groups/141/posts/867184

https://fetlife.com/groups/59094/posts/2818719

https://fetlife.com/groups/59094/posts/4593335

https://fetlife.com/groups/10050/posts/1538657

https://fetlife.com/groups/18193/posts/1532066

This Cult of One story was published by "Deborah the Cowgirl" in 1999. He either ripped her off, or that's a pseudonym he used to post erotica under.

https://fetlife.com/users/313890/posts/2297110
https://www.asstr.org/files/Collections/Alt.Sex.Stories.Moderated/Year2001/33972

Deborah the Cowgirl's catalog:

https://archive.vn/wip/EKvKM

The erotica on his website:

https://web.archive.org/web/2015040...ningstools.com/chastity-indoctrination-video/

 

[A nameless trool]

"It wasn't me" is all Ethan ever says. Cecil and Malin just see the writing on the wall. If they lose this civil war with WC they are out and I don't think anyone else wants anything to do with them.

Statistixs say that, at some point, a WC member will do something extremely and criminally stupid.

Then you have an organized group within a looser movement that is allegedly affiliated to certain political ideals and is alleged they are cyberstalking and harassing individuals. This, to me, sounds similar to an -ism. An -ism that starts with T.
And it is never good to be involved into an investigation conserning it. Anyone with three workin brain cells wants to distance themselves from it. And would advice their friend to distance themselves. Zack is smart for distancing himself, he has dealt with ugly shit in his lifetime. Malin and Cecil would better ditch EVS to save their skins, but I guess they are loyal friends and try to save him from himself.

@FROG are you certain Ro will do time for you? Or Ro's bitches lieutenants will take the blame for him? Or, better yet, can you spot the WC member that may be a plant or throw you all under the bus?

What I never liked in both SJWs and CG is that they were a bunch of geeks and neckbeards in their mother's basement playing with some blue-hot fire.

PS: Mallin vs Pan was a lot of fun. Malin is alpha and full on assertive in a field of beta bitches pretending to be tough. He is god tier when he corners them.

 

[Elwood P. Dowd]

@FROG are you certain Ro will do time for you? Or Ro's bitches lieutenants will take the blame for him? Or, better yet, can you spot the WC member that may be a plant or throw you all under the bus?

I caught a little bit of Ro's DLive stream last night. Seemed to be claiming that it was all pranks, bra, and that in fact Praetorian was the one going places nobody else wanted to, in terms of doxing and so on. That Praetorian was always pestering WC about how lonely he was, he wanted people to play Vidya with and so on, so they took pity on him. But that he was exiled out of the mainstream of WC a long time ago.

Ro also flat out denied that he speaks to @FROG on any kind regular basis or even all that often. Didn't comment about the whole "personal and private phone number" business that I heard, but IIRC even Vox Day occasionally will call @FROG, and they're hardly buddies. Not sure why that is such a huge deal in the first place.

I guess with DLive once the stream is done the video is gone, so I'm not sure what the wider point was, except maybe to preach to the converted?

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Maybe I'm boomering and missing something ultra-obvious in terms of hunting down receipts, dunno, but there's nothing there now.

edit:
Maybe I'm boomering

Yup, I was. Here's the replay:

· DLive

Replay created by |

dlive.tv

If anyone wants to wade through three hours and ten minutes of this.

 

[Detrogen]

Mallin vs Pan was a lot of fun. Malin is alpha and full on assertive in a field of beta bitches pretending to be tough. He is god tier when he corners them.

It’s not surprising. Malin is a vet, though he doesn’t talk about it much. So I can imagine he’s much higher-T than some sped on the internet spending all his time pretending to be an ancient Roman warrior and harrassing people with likeminded nerds.

Malin, like Zack, just wants to make comics and firmly believes in loyalty towards the people who’ve helped make his campaigns successful. This whole CG cancelling situation has to be soul crushing for him.

 

[A nameless trool]

It’s not surprising. Malin is a vet, though he doesn’t talk about it much. So I can imagine he’s much higher-T than some sped on the internet spending all his time pretending to be an ancient Roman warrior and harrassing people with likeminded nerds.

Malin, like Zack, just wants to make comics and firmly believes in loyalty towards the people who’ve helped make his campaigns successful. This whole CG cancelling situation has to be soul crushing for him.

Ow, those nerds picking fights with former professional killers (YBZ, Malin, Sketch) are prime candidates for a Darwin Award

 

[Smug Freiza]

INCOMING DROP!

Due to a file that couldn't be read by my PC I had to snip the following images, which is why they may appear to be different sizes. I'll spoiler them because they are long and there is a lot of them.

Spoiler: PRAETORIAN AND IMNOTTYLER

Spoiler: PRAETORIAN AND GAT HANZO

CG ANON 2018

VESTIGE 2019

Spoiler: PRAETORIAN AND TUG

Spoiler: PRAETORIAN AND ETHAN

Spoiler: WARCAMPAIGN HIERARCHY

Spoiler: PREVIOUS LEAKS

 

[Jub-Jub]

Been here three years. Never heard of it happening. Usually you have to have a thread before getting doxed, and nobody makes a goddamned thing from doing it. It's just a thread requirement to include the dox. Laughing at cows is basically a hobby.

90% of the off-site reputation the Farms has is heavily distorted or outright fabrication. That makes tall tales like the above seem believable to those who don't know any better.

Now, if Cecil is a cow... he might very well end up getting doxed. But not because anybody off-site requested it. Nobody here is going to do Preston's dirty work for him.

It wouldn't surprise me if some of the nutters had Cecil's dox as he apparently self doxed a long time ago. It's only referenced in the thread as most people weren't paying attention and he scrubbed the live-stream by the time people were alerted.

All the new "WC were gonna control KF" storyboards smell like gayops in the making. Name the accounts.

 

[Analog Devolved]

Randomly tagging someone is attention seeking? Lol. What about when CG were tagging SGM or Zdarsky? Come on.

Its capn cummings, the guy who was famously blocked by every SJ

INCOMING DROP!

Due to a file that couldn't be read by my PC I had to snip the following images, which is why they may appear to be different sizes. I'll spoiler them because they are long and there is a lot of them.

Spoiler: PRAETORIAN AND IMNOTTYLER

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Spoiler: PRAETORIAN AND GAT HANZO

CG ANON 2018

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VESTIGE 2019
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Spoiler: PRAETORIAN AND TUG

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Spoiler: PRAETORIAN AND ETHAN

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Spoiler: WARCAMPAIGN HIERARCHY

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Spoiler: PREVIOUS LEAKS

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TUG and Ethan running gay ops with War Campaign? *shocked pikachu face*
Ethan and TUG using socks to attack people and wreck campaigns? Where have we heard this before?

 

[verissimus]

This has Warcampaign gay-op written all over it:

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Ro et al already have his dox, they just need a deniable avenue to leak them.

Oh what is this crap? Metokur's dox 2.0, seriously?

 

[cow-wannabe]

Oh what is this crap? Metokur's dox 2.0, seriously?

Wow....Metokur's dox. I bet that's worth a pretty penny because of his well-stocked survival bunker. The farms should arrange a post-appocalytic biker-gang to go and lay seige to it.

EDIT
Wait. Scratch that idea. Get captured and his missus will vore-you.

 

[Newman's Own]

After all, this did show up in the stream at some point, and Ethan tried to laugh it off: https://twitter.com/thomasroiloup/status/1264816637443743746

*Ethan has a stream which is an absolute trainwreck and blows up in his face, he also shows some gay costume (literally) that was in his ebay search history and tries to play it off as a joke. Just accept who you are big guy.

Having something like that in your ebay search history which then makes you have to joke about why it's there with an embarrassed look on your face, that's at least several homo suspicion points Ethan's racked up in my books. Maybe @LateNightComic's rumors of Ethan and pizza parlors is more than just rumors.

I never really put much stock into the whole "Ethan is a closeted gay" thing. It's to perfect and it's to trashy. Also, it's not really that relevant. If true it's just kind of pathetic. This seems to be the first piece of supporting evidence that can't be easily disregarded.

It ain't much on it's own but together with the years and years of rumors...

he will certainly try to cut Ro at one point just to squeeze some Babyface points and have a fresh start. The question is when

Ro is safe. Whatever he has on Ethan, it's ironclad or WarCampaign never would have survived The Fall of Rome.

Hope you guys enjoy the empire burning around you because you ignored the clowns running around with flamethrowers until you specifically had a problem with them

Truth. Cecil and Malin stood by and even joined the fun when other creators were targeted and railroaded.

That they never thought their number would come up too is hard to fathom. I bet Fragga did some weed addled soul searching after being part of last nights debacle. If I was him I'd be planning my exit strategy right now.

MisterP Preston on Fetlife is also misterp on xhamster. :mild shock:

This is the proof I was asking for a week ago and Nohm kept producing garbage.

EDIT: It does seem strange that misterp refers to Preston in the third person when describing the pegging. I suppose it was his wife posting using his name which might explain why the Deborah pseudonym was female.

Anyway this is a lot more convincing then the shit tier posts Nohm was trying to pass off.

Thanks.

Malin is a vet

Is he?

All I've ever heard him talk about was working road construction like driving a giant vibrator or holding a stop sign turned him into a hard motherfucker or something.

What branch was he in? I'm still having a hard time buying that he served.
Edit: A quick Google search showed nothing to indicate Malin served.

 

[SpiderDerp]

He's "never been happier!"

Backers way down for shit-tier books which never come out.

It's a slow death, but it is a death. Much like comic shops and Marvel/DC. "We increased our prices so profits are up!"

 

[TheSoutherStar]

What happened here was Frog dramatically overestimating his command of the facts regarding Praetorian and the Nerkish debacle. He thought this was going to play out like Liam taking the piss out of Praetorian's denouncement of Warcampaign and Frog on VikkiVerse and Mecha McCheese's channels. At some point in Frog's mind, Praetorian being a scapegoat for WC's gayops and manipulation of him ceased being a convenient truth that allowed him to avoid hard choices and triggering his most deepset personal insecurities, and became instead a firmly accepted objective truth. So confident was Frog that he felt he was going to nip the growing WC/JACK conflict in the bud by inviting Cecil and Malin to join in on refuting Praetorian's narrative and preempt them from repeating any such claims themselves in the future, with Mecha McCheese to serve as devil's advocate and Sketch Therapy as backup and expert in all things "Anti-CG", both real and imagined.

It should be said that Cecil and Malin are bereft of any real arguments and ideology of their own, which is what has allowed them to survive in Comicsgate under Frog's wing by being unable to have conflicts based on ideas or thoughts on what Comicsgate should be. Instead they operate mostly on reciprocated loyalty and this has generally allowed Frog to have his way with them when it comes to disputes and arguments. But what he failed to consider was that once that tie of loyalty was broken, as their ties with WC have been, there's no common ground whatsoever holding them together.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=kJewoQ8Zpf8
Things start to fall apart when Jon Malin joins in and rather than the passive, malleable mind Frog expected, kicks in the door saying he's already watched the stream that Frog hasn't seen himself and is surprised that Frog is disobeying Ro's orders for a total blackout for the Praetorian expose as "the video Ro doesn't want anyone in CG to see". Cecil comes out a long, seething silence to say sarcastically that "Warcampaign never doxes", which McCheese offers his receipts of WC member Sheila Allen sending him phishing links. Frog, nervously sensing the common ground building between McCheese, Cecil and Malin throws out an attack on Praetorian's character and his crimes upon Comicsgate and Frog. Only Sketch responds positively. Malin laughs at Frog, saying that "internal criticism" and "investigating finances" with crowdfunds like Lonestar or Vampirella covers are only made one way as Warcampaign have refused to answer any of Praetorian's allegations regarding Vestige's payout structure.

Frog clearly wants to start roasting the Praetorian video as Liam did, but McCheese keeps cutting him off for "childish ad hominems" before he can frame Praetorian as a treacherous liar, and he's getting no help from any of his other panelists. Sketch starts yelling about how he was also scapegoated by Warcampaign for the gayops against Nerkish, but he in turn cut off by Frog who recounts the "official" recollection of events regarding the "CG Anon" account that deceived Frog into dropping Nerkish for his anti-semitic discord content (with screencaps of Thomas Roiloup in discord, who can now officially take credit for destroying Comicsgate) and about how at the behest of "CG Anon" he warned Nerkish about his dox and anti-semitic content but later realized how this came across as him blackmailing and intimidating Nerkish out of CG. They review the claim that Praetorian wasn't the only person to use the "CG Anon" account; Gat Hanzo also used it to distribute kompromat to Frog and Renfamous.

Cecil pipes up that this means that WC core command gayop'd Nerkish out of CG and delayed Cash Grab for two years while pretending to be his friend. Sketch Therapy hears the clip about how Warcampaign use him as a patsy for all their activities and unwittingly launder responsibility for their gayops. Frog repeats that Praetorian is an untrustworthy source, but all this clearly bears the ring of truth to people more intimately connected with the affair like Sketch and Cecil. Such as how "Praetorian" got Sketch Therapy blamed for the Nerkish op and kicked from WC, which nonsensically withstood after Praetorian was removed. Or Sketch feeling he's taking blame for things he didn't do. Or how Sketch's sounding the alarm to Frog and TUG weren't acted on (because Frog dismisses Sketch as a conspiracy theorist and TUG was complicit with the whole thing).

When it was clear that he was losing Sketch Therapy, the colossal scale of Frog's misplay started to sink in. Even Dan Fraga quietly admitted he had watched the Praetorian video and was better prepared than he was for this. Malin started talking about how Fraga was next on their list because "he jumped the gate" and Cecil only doubled down about how he sees through Ro and Pan and that they are trash and always have been. Seeing no way out of this, Frog quickly announced that he was shutting down the stream immediately.

great recap, this stream is definitely a nexus where ethan will starts to turn on malin, cecil and their own subgroup. it's been pretty obvious for months too.