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Has Nerkish eclipsed Frog? I know Heels is an outrage monkey who got a bump from LOU 2 and Doctor Who's implosion.
Nerdrotic, not Nerkish. Nerkish is struggling to break 4 figure views after experimenting with DLive and riffing on bad comics and cartoons.
Nerdrotic has ~290K subs as a pop culture commentator/outrage merchant who gets minimum six figures on views, HeelVsBabyface is around 259K. Both guys have been willing to share their platforms in the past to plug Zack and Frog and even Graham Nolan, so I'd consider them at least "CG-Adjacent". Hell, "Az"/HeelvsBabyface gets starstruck interviewing his CG role models despite having more subscribers than the entire movement combined.


173K views for what's essentially a Comicsgate op-ed on BRZRKR working with Kickstarter.
 
It is the lack of awareness and ZFG by people until now they're parents who now GAF that yes there are monsters lurking everywhere. Which is a story old as time for humans and animals.

Uh...

Yeah, I misread you.

The mainstream industry offers a 24 page comic at roughly $4, which gives us a price/page of 0.16 for floppies. Using this benchmark we can figure out if the floppies offered on Indiegogo are worth getting, for example the Ballad of No which is $15 for 24 pages comes to 0.63 per page.

You got me there. You're right, a a $15 price tag is going to negatively impact a single floppy's value regardless of content. (Especially with Richard 'Vizhul Meedyum' Meyer on scribe's duty) I just don't think I've ever seen it sliced up as finely as cents per page.

I've never heard anti-CG use price per page as a talking point

I've heard things like it a couple of times. Usually from Worm and his orbiters, talking about his big hardback books vs a lot of the floppies coming out of CG.

Crazy that they let Liam get the last laugh on them, but play retarded games with retards and retarded shit happens.

I can't disagree. Silly tits.
 
It had pretty spicy takes and corellated proof on why comicsgate are the real SJW's as a whole mostly, and predicted they would again strike this down :)

Correlation is not causation fuckwit.

This is not the only thing and the only time you kept stealing from their "brand" using "shouldhavelistenedtowarcampaign" back in the day when you were more than happy to run them when they weren't too much of a pr disaster, also picking up their own lines, and very specific / detailed lines from their own videos that showed that you didn't only listen and watch their video but nitpicking sometimes entire sentences and their specific turn of words for yourself, which is pretty telling of how really assmad you are about them behind the scenes. And you still run warcampaign even if they are subdissected in compartimentalized groups after your crowd got tired of seeing Ro's Face running plausible deniability damage control and bending over to receive punishement for your own actions, used them, and still using them as proxies.

"YoU uSeD tHeIr AuTisTiC cAtChPhRaSe!1!!" + conspiracy theories on WarCampaign and Etsy Boys being ran by Ethan secretly still. You got any proof, or you going to be just like your masters and cope on their nutsacks some more?
 
Let's be honest, if YT deleted Frog's or Nerdrotic's or TSWG's or Doomcock's or one of those outrage merchant's channel, the rest of them would be squealing to high heaven about "fear muh channel" and "YT is censoring us for the truth" "They are picking on the little guy!" "The evil empire of Marvel/Disney/SW/SJW/mainstream etc are censoring us! Send superchats! Buy my stuff!" "I'm gonna sue!".

Then @CapeKnight did you forget that literal whore Shelia Martin coming here and smearing the shat of @PocketJacks all over this thread without spoiling it? That was a result of EVS calling for a "deep drive on preston" because PJ was slamming EVSCG with his "Last week in CG" videos and making fun of them. Now no one takes him seriously because he got neutered by that. She's a mod on Frog's channel so it shows incentive to chop at anyone that mocks them. Liam being a sperg probably wanted to have the same high as defeating one of Caesar's foes and SWC did do that sticker video.

Censorship is great until it happens to you, that is why we are here at the farms.
 
Closing out our volume 4 campaign strong today! Thanks all for the tremendous support. It's because of readers like you that we've made comics great again as the real alternative in the industry with MONTHLY books, and we look forward to continuing our efforts into 2021 and beyond.

It's so amazing to have 15 full issues of Flying Sparks, a dream I would have never thought possible 2 short years ago. We'll continue to outwork the rest of the industry, and the best is yet to come! God bless comic readers and God bless America!

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We are working on getting their names and address so that we can serve them and bring them to court.

So you didn't 'pay' Liam to dox SWC but you are trying to get their information? How many people have you threatened to sue, Ethan? It's a very long list and you haven't done a single thing about any of them, all talk and empty threats as usual. And what are you going to sue SWC for, because they just called you a couple of names and said you suck strangers' dicks behind a pizza place. Am I missing something?
 
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Well it's the end of an era I guess, it's rather sad to see one of the first, if not the first Comicsgate critical channel get nuked from youtube. Over two years of clips and deep lore now lost to the void, rather tragic from an archival point of view. I can remember when Thomas Roilup first came onto the radar of Emspex, which must be several hundred pages back during the Nerkish drama of late 2018.

I personally never had a problem with them and found their obnoxious know it all attitude and edgy /pol/ tier rhetoric rather endearing. Their banter with the participants in this thread combative, yet playful, almost daring the farms to dig deeper and be better. Of course I'll always be grateful to them for offering their platform to myself and @Mister Dongs for a pleasant conversation, despite the fact I sent two trolls as impersonators in our stead, which ended up being quite an enjoyable stream even for those not in on the joke. The greatest tragedy in all this is now that livestream is lost to the ether.

While I'll agree with Analog above that it is rather hypocritical that a movement founded on criticizing bad comics and laughing at their creators has now adopted the tactics of the SJWs they claim to be against, I'm certainly not surprised. Comicsgate passed the "ends justify the means" threshold some time ago, something like this was inevitable. The brothers can shout on twitter with their evidence and theories till the cows come home, but I doubt anyone in Comicsgate is going to care.

Something that should be interesting is the escalation in tactics, since a Comicsgate creator has officially flagged a critic for targeted harassment, I wonder if anti-CG will escalate too? If the Comic Book Hut gets called a retard one too many times, Preston a cuck, Cummings a closeted homosexual etc. Will we see some of Comicsgate's typical punching bags turn and decide that flagging videos and creators for targeted harassment is an acceptable way to deplatform them, since Liam Gray utilized the method and the movement at large endorsed him with their silence?

I guess we'll have to wait and see.
 
Let's be honest, if YT deleted Frog's or Nerdrotic's or TSWG's or Doomcock's or one of those outrage merchant's channel, the rest of them would be squealing to high heaven about "fear muh channel" and "YT is censoring us for the truth" "They are picking on the little guy!" "The evil empire of Marvel/Disney/SW/SJW/mainstream etc are censoring us! Send superchats! Buy my stuff!" "I'm gonna sue!".

Then @CapeKnight did you forget that literal whore Shelia Martin coming here and smearing the shat of @PocketJacks all over this thread without spoiling it? That was a result of EVS calling for a "deep drive on preston" because PJ was slamming EVSCG with his "Last week in CG" videos and making fun of them. Now no one takes him seriously because he got neutered by that. She's a mod on Frog's channel so it shows incentive to chop at anyone that mocks them. Liam being a sperg probably wanted to have the same high as defeating one of Caesar's foes and SWC did do that sticker video.

Censorship is great until it happens to you, that is why we are here at the farms.

Preston put in the work of clipping what was said and showed the dichotomy of CG, as well as interjecting some of his own ideas into them from time to time, but regardless of Preston's ideas, it was very clear that there was a divide. Personally, I'd like to think this was enough of a threat, to the point where Sheila came on here to claim victory, and then she was doxed because she wasn't so clean herself.

What has Roiloup offered? Oh, Mayo video. Something that they couldn't even cover properly. I mean, do you want to be an actual critic and come with some actual points that's hard to refute with proof or do you want to be a-logging faggot, slinging shit till something sticks?

So you didn't 'pay' Liam to dox SWC but you are trying to get their information? How many people have you threatened to sue, Ethan? It's a very long list and you haven't done a single thing about any of them, all talk and empty threats as usual. And what are you going to sue SWC for, because they just called you a couple of names and said you suck stranger's dicks behind a pizza place. Am I missing something?

Shit dude, Ethan didn't admit he was trying to get their dox. Are you blind?
Liam said:

“SWC used DA Talks has a buffer so my lawyer could not serve the papers. YouTube is aware of it and their videos were reinstated by the bot. Their whole channel is still under review and will probably be nuked this week.

We are working on getting their names and address so that we can serve them and bring them to court.

Keep it to yourself please, let them celebrate and proclaim victory. I want them sloppy and saying stupid shit that incriminates themselves.”

"Liam said". The rest are in quotations. @FROG this is why I suggested you just post the DMs.
 
Nerdrotic, not Nerkish. Nerkish is struggling to break 4 figure views after experimenting with DLive and riffing on bad comics and cartoons.
Nerdrotic has ~290K subs as a pop culture commentator/outrage merchant who gets minimum six figures on views, HeelVsBabyface is around 259K. Both guys have been willing to share their platforms in the past to plug Zack and Frog and even Graham Nolan, so I'd consider them at least "CG-Adjacent". Hell, "Az"/HeelvsBabyface gets starstruck interviewing his CG role models despite having more subscribers than the entire movement combined.


173K views for what's essentially a Comicsgate op-ed on BRZRKR working with Kickstarter.

Nerdrotic's definitely affiliated. He used to play his 'I sympathize but am not a part of' routine. It didn't register at first because I haven't watched him in forever. Heels is unbearable as a more obnoxious Cecil.

If you know that Liam is trigger happy with the take downs why would you make a five part rant about the guy when flagging three is enough to get you nuked? It's not asking for trouble it's begging to get fucked.

Maybe to troll him into doing just that? It makes it harder, or it should, for CG people to bitch about abusing the strike system, ala Mundane Matt.
 
Maybe to troll him into doing just that? It makes it harder, or it should, for CG people to bitch about abusing the strike system, ala Mundane Matt.

Falling on your sword to prove a point feels overkill, especially since Liam already flagged SWC before. But this also proves why loose hashtag movements are ripe for abuse: Everyone can scream they belong to a group then shit all over the place and it looks bad for the rest of the group, especially to your average guy who just sees other people using the same hashtag.
 
How dare SWC use an authorized agent, as allowed by YouTube to file their counter-claim, and now they're being investigated! The original strike is made automatically by a bot. The counter claim isn't reviewed by a bot.

Liam also said that the Australian government was going to be handling his civil copyright claim,

Please tell me you didn't actually fall for that @FROG.

Where do you see me justifying what Liam did?

As a member in terrific standing of this upstanding community, I put in my warning about this three or four pages ago, and recommended a course of action for people
I have absolutely no use for.

I don't care what SWC do, and I don't care what Liam does.

But Liam is going to cross the line, (in case you haven't noticed, he's not at all well) and poking him with enough ammo for him to take down your YouTube channel wasn't smart.
He forced a review of the channel by YouTube in addition to the copyright strikes, and YouTube took down the channel.

I disavow all parties.

Let's be honest, if YT deleted Frog's or Nerdrotic's or TSWG's or Doomcock's or one of those outrage merchant's channel, the rest of them would be squealing to high heaven about "fear muh channel" and "YT is censoring us for the truth" "They are picking on the little guy!" "The evil empire of Marvel/Disney/SW/SJW/mainstream etc are censoring us! Send superchats! Buy my stuff!" "I'm gonna sue!".

Then @CapeKnight did you forget that literal whore Shelia Martin coming here and smearing the shat of @PocketJacks all over this thread without spoiling it? That was a result of EVS calling for a "deep drive on preston" because PJ was slamming EVSCG with his "Last week in CG" videos and making fun of them. Now no one takes him seriously because he got neutered by that. She's a mod on Frog's channel so it shows incentive to chop at anyone that mocks them. Liam being a sperg probably wanted to have the same high as defeating one of Caesar's foes and SWC did do that sticker video.

Censorship is great until it happens to you, that is why we are here at the farms.

I guess there's a difference between making videos about "Star Wars is RUINED by SJWS" and "Liam Gray is a pedo who beats his mother," which is probably why Anna or Doomcock would rightfully feel more aggrieved by having their voices silenced than two shitheads like the Incel Brothers, who are relentlessly picking on a single brain-damaged Aussie who is trying to sell his comic on the web. He was being bullied, and it looks like he was able to punch back.

Stop lying about Preston.

Trust fund loser and LITERAL CUCK Preston Poulter decided to declare war on "capecucks" with SWC, and tried to strike down entire crowdfunding campaigns of other indie creators. We thought legal action might be necessary, and I asked everyone to copy all messages from him regarding his intentions to nuke CASH GRAB as evidence so that we could stop him in court if we needed to.

That problem dissolved, but Preston kept provoking ComicsGaters, and months later, THIS was discovered by UFOlogist and bored housewife Sheila Allen:
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I didn't ask anyone to go looking for weird shit about Preston, but I'm glad they did. Holy shit.

One of the best days in ComicsGate ever.

Preston put in the work of clipping what was said and showed the dichotomy of CG, as well as interjecting some of his own ideas into them from time to time, but regardless of Preston's ideas, it was very clear that there was a divide. Personally, I'd like to think this was enough of a threat, to the point where Sheila came on here to claim victory, and then she was doxed because she wasn't so clean herself.

What has Roiloup offered? Oh, Mayo video. Something that they couldn't even cover properly. I mean, do you want to be an actual critic and come with some actual points that's hard to refute with proof or do you want to be a-logging faggot, slinging shit till something sticks?



Shit dude, Ethan didn't admit he was trying to get their dox. Are you blind?


"Liam said". The rest are in quotations. @FROG this is why I suggested you just post the DMs.

I don’t post DMs unless they’re harassment or threats usually but since I already typed all this out:
 

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So you didn't 'pay' Liam to dox SWC but you are trying to get their information? How many people have you threatened to sue, Ethan? It's a very long list and you haven't done a single thing about any of them, all talk and empty threats as usual. And what are you going to sue SWC for, because they just called you a couple of names and said you suck strangers' dicks behind a pizza place. Am I missing something?

The question is why is "EVS's" behavior, this way, not blocking this mentally ill person when he, himself, has been insulting him of being a retard everytime he can, verbally abused him multiple times on Liam's own channel, months ago, the truth is, EvS enjoys their slave / master faggot parasocial relationship just as much as it was the same kind of highly manipulative cuckhold energy relationship with RO and the rest of Warcampaign, (who were caught saying they exchange dick pics and nude for "loyalty" blackmailing on a few livestreams, both on Ro's channel, and from BIG STEEVE's interview) as well as the same manipulative relationship energy he had with most of his co workers and the artists needed to finish his books at DC when he was late or too lazy to finish them. DC got rid of him because he became a lazy ass, and this accusation is easily proven by how much time he takes to draw a single issue of a book he says he was very interested to make, and passionate about, a book that he didn't even cared to correct many obvious mistakes on (like that moon still cut by an electric cable, on the final print, when everyone told him it was bad in CG, remember ?) So much for the love project of his life.

Not only he became a lazy has been comic book creator that cannot write a good story on his most beloved franchise, but he hasn't changed his ways one bit, in fact his petulant little gay prince behavior actually worsened, and the amount of "OG CG" creators he ousted from the movement, proves how shit of a person he really is, Nasser, Nerkish, Doug, Mike, and so on, i can't count them anymore, it shows that his CO workers were right all along about what he was doing and how he threats people that "he" considers close to him or partners, co workers, he has a long trackrecord of doing this, and the history / legacy he leaves surrounding "Comicsgate" shows , if anything, how true it all was, and still is.

But EVS is never the culprit of anything, he's so innocent, so charming, he is the human sunbeam, see, 109 of his friends left him behind for his behavior, but all of them are the problem ! The manipulative tactics he used to shame his "friends" and took pleasure in what he never fail to call "failures" (to him, succeeding outside of his greasy fingers is never seen as a good thing, he will dismiss it or not look at it if it doesn't fit his narrative) wishing them all the worst out of the movement, just shows he not only didn't change, but actually got emboldened in his behavior and his idiotic blind cult of fans not able to connect two synapses together, and call him out on anything, are actually enabling more and more of this behavior, so much so he now takes no issue in deplatforming the smallest of critics that tells it like it is in his face.
 
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SWC are retards and Liam is BASED.

Closing out our volume 4 campaign strong today! Thanks all for the tremendous support. It's because of readers like you that we've made comics great again as the real alternative in the industry with MONTHLY books, and we look forward to continuing our efforts into 2021 and beyond.

It's so amazing to have 15 full issues of Flying Sparks, a dream I would have never thought possible 2 short years ago. We'll continue to outwork the rest of the industry, and the best is yet to come! God bless comic readers and God bless America!

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Congrats, John.
 
The question is why is "EVS's" behavior, this way, not blocking this mentally ill person when he, himself, has been insulting him of being a retard everytime he can, verbally abused him multiple times on Liam's own channel, months ago, the truth is, EvS enjoys their slave / master faggot parasocial relationship just as much as it was the same kind of highly manipulative cuckhold energy relationship with RO and the rest of Warcampaign, (who were caught saying they exchange dick pics and nude for "loyalty" blackmailing on a few livestreams, both on Ro's channel, and from BIG STEEVE's interview) as well as the same manipulative relationship energy he had with most of his co workers and the artists needed to finish his books at DC when he was late or too lazy to finish them. DC got rid of him because he became a lazy ass, and this accusation is easily proven by how much time he takes to draw a single issue of a book he says he was very interested to make, and passionate about, a book that he didn't even cared to correct many obvious mistakes on (like that moon still cut by an electric cable, on the final print, when everyone told him it was bad in CG, remember ?) So much for the love project of his life.

Not only he became a lazy has been comic book creator that cannot write a good story on his most beloved franchise, but he hasn't changed his ways one bit, in fact his petulant little gay prince behavior actually worsened, and the amount of "OG CG" creators he ousted from the movement, proves how shit of a person he really is, Nasser, Nerkish, Doug, Mike, and so on, i can't count them anymore, it shows that his CO workers were right all along about what he was doing and how he threats people that "he" considers close to him or partners, co workers, he has a long trackrecord of doing this, and the history / legacy he leaves surrounding "Comicsgate" shows , if anything, how true it all was, and still is.

But EVS is never the culprit of anything, he's so innocent, so charming, he is the human sunbeam, see, 109 of his friends left him behind for his behavior, but all of them are the problem ! The manipulative tactics he used to shame his "friends" and took pleasure in what he never fail to call "failures" (to him, succeeding outside of his greasy fingers is never seen as a good thing, he will dismiss it or not look at it if it doesn't fit his narrative) wishing them all the worst out of the movement, just shows he not only didn't change, but actually got emboldened in his behavior and his idiotic blind cult of fans not able to connect two synapses together, and call him out on anything, are actually enabling more and more of this behavior, so much so he now takes no issue in deplatforming the smallest of critics that tells it like it is in his face.

LMFAO

It's pretty simple. Help me make money, you're on my show. Don't interfere (even if you're a critic) and there's no problem. Interfere with me making money and you're out.

That should explain most of "my behavior" towards the "OG CG" complete losers you listed. Also War Campaign, Smiller, and so on.

All of your criticism of me makes you seem extremely jealous. I laughed at the thing about the moon. Seek help.
 
That just sounds like Zack doesn't know how to set up an ebay store or a website and would rather give IGG a large cut than figure it out.
Yeah, that’s probably it. I do think these guys should figure out a way to set up a permanent store together or something to sell their books after the initial backers get their special editions and such. Or even just throw them up in the vanity book sections of Amazon. If someone wants to buy your product, why only sell it to them every few months or years via a crowdfund campaign when you could be selling it to them 365 days a year instead? Perhaps Zack is slowly coming around to this as he’s been mentioning in his newer videos how he wants to continue selling his older books via bundles in his campaigns, but he’s still fixated on the “campaign” aspect.
 
I've never heard anti-CG use price per page as a talking point
There was a time that the people from the industry and their orbiters (think gail simone and tim doyle) were kvetching about CG daring to charge $25 for a ~48pg product. Pretty sure it was around the time that @FROG's first campaign was finishing and they all suddenly broke silence to bitch about it.

Edit: Haven't seen anybody mention it here, Turns out telling people they can't have feelings about 9/11 while writing GI Joe wasn't the smartest idea.
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Also it's been mentioned in his thread but it's worth mentioning here, Kwanzer managed to option Black to Warner Bros.
 
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Amazing developments. Imagine being buttered up by Ethan as the "most talented" talk show host in CG. Imagine standing up for principles that were once CG but now aren't because Ethan the Transcendent One has no use for them. You proceed to humble-brag about how crazy you are in real life only for that association to stick in a negative way. Imagine the comic book you thought was going to be a cult (CG) hit go over like an old leftover. When you finally purge your greatest critics from Youtube, you get the honor of being described by the man you once so admired in this way:

Crazy that they let Liam get the last laugh on them, but play retarded games with retards and retarded shit happens.


The dream is dead. Anyone who hitches their wagon to Ethan's gravy train is going to realize at some point that they've just skewered themselves on an ever-rotating shish kebab. Purging SWC isn't going to make your comic sell more and it will not resurrect your brand.
 
Amazing developments. Imagine being buttered up by Ethan as the "most talented" talk show host in CG. Imagine standing up for principles that were once CG but now aren't because Ethan the Transcendent One has no use for them. You proceed to humble-brag about how crazy you are in real life only for that association to stick in a negative way. Imagine the comic book you thought was going to be a cult (CG) hit go over like an old leftover. When you finally purge your greatest critics from Youtube, you get the honor of being described by the man you once so admired in this way:




The dream is dead. Anyone who hitches their wagon to Ethan's gravy train is going to realize at some point that they've just skewered themselves on an ever-rotating shish kebab. Purging SWC isn't going to make your comic sell more and it will not resurrect your brand.
Christ, what more was he supposed to do for Liam?
 
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