#Comicsgate - The Culture Wars Hit The Funny Books!

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When Doug declared he wasn't CG he gave a reason. The reason was the behavior of WC and the fact that behavior was defended at large by CG creators and faithful. He said he couldn't risk having his rights to EWJ be in jeopardy for association with a movement that was fine with WC's aggressively obnoxious harassment. Why did Ethan disown WarCampaign?

I take him at his word on that.

Is that what Doug said now? That he couldn't be seen as associating with WC because his EWJ contract would be jeopardized? I just want to be clear on this Newman's.

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Ethan appeared on Vikki's show.

I guess they're best friends now...
Tone was different. Ethan was debating Vikki...

Though there are examples of changing alliances...

Doug denounced CG for kowtowing to Pride SJWs.

Preston is a pervert but he's not a Pride SJW as far as I know. Doug also has hosted trans and gay people on stream happily. He doesn't have a problem with gay people. He has a problem with gay SJW cancel culture.

That's a fact.

By the way, since you know him so well, what is Doug's opinion on Pedophilia? Preston said he has no problem with that.

Well done.


Kicking the hornet's nest...

I just, the bar for success and failure has been lowered so far.


Someone call James Cameron.

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Tone was different. Ethan was debating Vikki...

Though there are examples of changing alliances...



By the way, since you know him so well, what is Doug's opinion on Pedophilia? Preston said he has no problem with that.



I just, the bar for success and failure has been lowered so far.


Someone call James Cameron.

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True, the last album of Asterix has already been sold 6 million units so there is that.
 
True, the last album of Asterix has already been sold 6 million units so there is that.
Yes, Asterix comics tend to sell more albums than the entire US industry combined.
And they are a great model the big two can learn from. Or they can learn from Japanese or the Itallian markets of big, cheap comicbooks (the former antohlogies, the latter mostly stand alone issues)
Unless this is about pedo stuff so... where exactly do you see it?
 
I must quote my own post, because it wasn't published in time.
Frog this Blood is on your hands for helping Joe Glass to get funded.
All of it is you.
What'd I do?

And by the way, I don't give a fuck if Joe Glass gets funded. I placed no bets. It'd be funny if he didn't, it's irrelevant that he did. He's allowed to make his gay comics, and he's allowed to cry about me in them.
 

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First few ASYL packages shipped. @FROG yours went out. Hope you love it.

Here's the Doug voicemail, for whoever asked earlier (too buried to find it). I only made this an unlisted video because for some reason KF keeps saying it's not the right video format, and I don't know what to change it to:

You can hear somebody, presumably his daughter, in the background saying "Why would you call him to tell him he's blocked" or something along those lines. Pretty weird.

Everything else he said (when he mentioned kissing he ring, how the money I'm owed is "only" $5,000, and crying about how I didn't defend him) happened on our phone call, which took place after I got this phone call, and which I did not record.

This took place the day after my stream with Ethan and Malin. The stream in question, which prompted my return to CG (but I had not returned by the time I got this call):
 
First few ASYL packages shipped. @FROG yours went out. Hope you love it.

Here's the Doug voicemail, for whoever asked earlier (too buried to find it). I only made this an unlisted video because for some reason KF keeps saying it's not the right video format, and I don't know what to change it to:

You can hear somebody, presumably his daughter, in the background saying "Why would you call him to tell him he's blocked" or something along those lines. Pretty weird.

Everything else he said (when he mentioned kissing he ring, how the money I'm owed is "only" $5,000, and crying about how I didn't defend him) happened on our phone call, which took place after I got this phone call, and which I did not record.

This took place the day after my stream with Ethan and Malin. The stream in question, which prompted my return to CG (but I had not returned by the time I got this call):
What a tiny little bitter man. I was right about him the whole time.
 
big facts

Hey, in the beginning I was willing to believe Doug's narrative of events and how things went down more than anyone. I genuinely wanted there to be a way for everyone to be on board and actually challenge the enforced hegemon of the mainstream. Cecil and WC's screeching of "homophobe" and "traitor" certainly helped things along as well.

But then Doug went and packed up and ditched everyone around him at the first whiff of success twice. For all the talk of "not wanting to be a youtuber", incorruptible moral code and "fighting the culture war together", in the end the only real difference between Doug and ThatUmbrellaGuy was opportunity. To quote Newman's Own, in defense of Doug, "helping to 'lift up' fellow artists is Ethan's brand", not Doug's. Oh well. I'd rather talk about something relevant to Comicsgate and related subjects in this thread instead of letting it continue to be derailed with debate over someone who produces MAGA clickbait for boomers.

I have followed this thread since its inception, the quality took a deep dive for the past year or so with newcomers from "the industry", they should have been dealt with.
Posting a screenshot without achieving it? Wow.
This thread was about Comicsgate, at the beginning, the anti-CG side was documented but it is not anymore which is baffling, a war has always two sides.



What happened was that with COVID-19 shutting down most LCS stores and conventions, hype started building about this tipping the ailing mainstream comics industry into collapsing completely. However the prospect of victory only brought to the fore that there was no real consensus on what a "victorious Comicsgate" would even look like, sparking a period of deep introspection that people were not prepared for and began to fight openly among themselves. This was followed by and compounded on with the sudden implosion of the "anti-Comicsgate" faction; the self-styled figurehead Preston Poulter catching ablaze in a flurry of absurdly degrading pornography. However the defeat of the CG foil only resulted in intensifying the infighting as it was just one less thing for people to rally against. One would think so much autism and screeching spent to determine that a tiny fraction (2%) of the comics industry didn't actually need a self-appointed purity testing police force to drive off the undeserving after all, but here we are.

Comicsgate on the whole is slowly starting to move forward again. I might write a lot of words about the explosion of new creators and new campaigns (37 active crowdfunds at present) outpacing the growth of an increasingly jaded and weary customer base, but those are problems that are infinitely preferable to the opposite scenario where no new CG campaigns are being made. Does this mean reaching out to new audiences, platforms or markets instead of blindly conceding them to the Whisper Network's dominance? Possibly.

As for what happened to talking about the old anti-Comicsgate, that is to say the blue haired gatekeepers of comics twitter; discourse has lowered on that subject as a whole, not just on this thread.

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To hear it from Comicsgate "thought leaders" such as Simple Zack and Yellowflash as they pump out video after video, BRZRKR and Boom Studios are the new champions of bucking the SJW mainstream and gatekeepers. I for one have not seen anything suggesting mainstream publisher Boom Studios won't perpetuate the blacklists against creators and fans coordinated through the whisper network, it's very difficult to figure out what kind of "victory" Boom's success means beyond irritating nobodies like Stephanie Cooke and Joe Glass.
 
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A great stream in CG history!

From around the 2hr mark is especially interesting, when @FROG and Malin were trying to promote @Skinny while anti-CGers in the chat were telling them to eff themselves:

Malin: I don't even think Skinny's a Comicsgater, so..
Frog: I don't think so either, I think....
Skinny [talking over them]: I'm just a dude
Malin: Yeah he's just a dude...
Skinny: ...who likes smokin' weed and fuckin' hot women.
[momentary awkward silence]
Malin: [talking about an angry anti-CG chat commenter] See, he's not gonna back you, because these guys don't back. Anti-Comicsgate does not back projects.
Frog: They do not support their own community, that's why I'm sayin, just be Comicsgate. Because we do.
Nasser: This is gold right here. 'Nun Bzness' says "Nasser declare you are CG so you can make Liam cry again" okay, I'm CG now, so...
Frog: When Nasser comes back to Comicsgate, he is gonna get the spot that Liam always wanted. Right on my stream...
Nasser: Alright.
Frog: ...making tons of money...
Nasser: Alright I'm I'm I'm I'm back on Ethan's stream, sorry Liam goodbye.
Malin: [laughing] Let's see this happen!
Nasser: Oh boy...
Frog: Can you imagine?
[Nasser starts reading a superchat, Malin cuts him off]
Malin: But you realise, uh, Nasser, the first six months at LEAST is gonna be us trying to get you to REALLY trash on, uh, Doug TenNapel.
Nasser: [nervous chuckle]
Malin: And maybe Mike Miller.
Nasser: Oh man... um I'm I'm not about trashing anybody.
[Then Frog and Malin at the same time:]
Malin: We'll get it outta ya.
Frog: Neither am I, I'm about friendship [starts reading out angry negative chat from anti-CGer towards him and Malin]
 
All it's going to take for D10 is to have Preston actually get some press for his press sessions and presto-change-o: everyone is in a mountain of shit. Captain Ahab has to let go of his albino whale before he goes down with the ship. That lolitai is so damn radioactive, why is he sitting there defending it? He didn't have the God-given sense to immediately disavow Preston after his obvious self-published videos on hornpub and I guess I shouldn't have expected anything more from him. Doug created the Christian Vegetales of all things and now here we are... there is absolutely positively zero excuse for this. His initial beef with Ethan doesn't even make sense now that we know he's got one of the most sexually deviant and disgusting human beings in comics within his exclusive circle.

If Doug wasn't such a dumb boomer right now, he might have realized that Preston completely cucked and betrayed him with his progressive fetish platform. And like Ethan, he didn't have to do it in order to be successful. Boomers gonna boom! I'm incredibly disappointed, Sorbo style.

But just keep one thing in mind, just because one guy has lots of problems and the other guy might have fewer problems, it doesn't mean one is all bad and the other is all good. What I believe we have here is a gurgling mass of broken egos long passed their prime who are looking to make a buck and doing almost anything to do it, including bending their own moral code.

With respect to the Newmans, criticizing Doug does not invalidate the major issues with Ethan. What it does mean is the rot is deep and wide in this industry and contrary to being bastions of normal civilized behavior all we're getting is dodgeball in a barbed-wire octagon.


A great stream in CG history!

From around the 2hr mark is especially interesting, when @FROG and Malin were trying to promote @Skinny while anti-CGers in the chat were telling them to eff themselves:

Malin: I don't even think Skinny's a Comicsgater, so..
Frog: I don't think so either, I think....
Skinny [talking over them]: I'm just a dude
Malin: Yeah he's just a dude...
Skinny: ...who likes smokin' weed and fuckin' hot women.
[momentary awkward silence]
Malin: [talking about an angry anti-CG chat commenter] See, he's not gonna back you, because these guys don't back. Anti-Comicsgate does not back projects.
Frog: They do not support their own community, that's why I'm sayin, just be Comicsgate. Because we do.
Nasser: This is gold right here. 'Nun Bzness' says "Nasser declare you are CG so you can make Liam cry again" okay, I'm CG now, so...
Frog: When Nasser comes back to Comicsgate, he is gonna get the spot that Liam always wanted. Right on my stream...
Nasser: Alright.
Frog: ...making tons of money...
Nasser: Alright I'm I'm I'm I'm back on Ethan's stream, sorry Liam goodbye.
Malin: [laughing] Let's see this happen!
Nasser: Oh boy...
Frog: Can you imagine?
[Nasser starts reading a superchat, Malin cuts him off]
Malin: But you realise, uh, Nasser, the first six months at LEAST is gonna be us trying to get you to REALLY trash on, uh, Doug TenNapel.
Nasser: [nervous chuckle]
Malin: And maybe Mike Miller.
Nasser: Oh man... um I'm I'm not about trashing anybody.
[Then Frog and Malin at the same time:]
Malin: We'll get it outta ya.
Frog: Neither am I, I'm about friendship [starts reading out angry negative chat from anti-CGer towards him and Malin]

I can only watch toast get buttered after it's been dragged around on the floor so many times.
 
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Welp, on the plus side we all get to enjoy the skinhead in a cyberfrog t-shirt.
This is insane! Nice illustration by the way.



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Now he is doing a video on Camilla Zhang again based on one article

What'd I do?

And by the way, I don't give a fuck if Joe Glass gets funded. I placed no bets. It'd be funny if he didn't, it's irrelevant that he did. He's allowed to make his gay comics, and he's allowed to cry about me in them.
If the Bretweiser situation impacted all of Comicsgate then what this Meyer/Joe Glass situation will do.
I will let you do the talking.
The video starts at the right time.
(edited for the right time because you guys can't follow a straight line of thought)
 
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All it's going to take for D10 is to have Preston actually get some press for his press sessions and presto-change-o: everyone is in a mountain of shit. Captain Ahab has to let go of his albino whale before he goes down with the ship. That lolitai is so damn radioactive, why is he sitting there defending it? He didn't have the God-given sense to immediately disavow Preston after his obvious self-published videos on hornpub and I guess I shouldn't have expected anything more from him. Doug created the Christian Vegetales of all things and now here we are... there is absolutely positively zero excuse for this. His initial beef with Ethan doesn't even make sense now that we know he's got one of the most sexually deviant and disgusting human beings in comics within his exclusive circle.

If Doug wasn't such a dumb boomer right now, he might have realized that Preston completely cucked and betrayed him with his progressive fetish platform. And like Ethan, he didn't have to do it in order to be successful. Boomers gonna boom! I'm incredibly disappointed, Sorbo style.

But just keep one thing in mind, just because one guy has lots of problems and the other guy might have fewer problems, it doesn't mean one is all bad and the other is all good. What I believe we have here is a gurgling mass of broken egos long passed their prime who are looking to make a buck and doing almost anything to do it, including bending their own moral code.

With respect to the Newmans, criticizing Doug does not invalidate the major issues with Ethan. What it does mean is the rot is deep and wide in this industry and contrary to being bastions of normal civilized behavior all we're getting is dodgeball in a barbed-wire octagon.




I can only watch toast get buttered after it's been dragged around on the floor so many times.
Absolutely. If you are true Kiwi, you have enough black heart to embrace multiple cows.
 
This is insane! Nice illustration by the way.



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Now he is doing a video on Camilla Zhang again based on one article


If the Bretweiser situation impacted all of Comicsgate then what this Meyer/Joe Glass situation will do.
I will let you do the talking.
The video starts at the right time.
(edited for the right time because you guys can't follow a straight line of thought)
You are appearing more and more retarded the more I observe you post. It's bad enough you haven't figured out how to crop images, newfag. But I'm noticing a few problems with the shit you're posting. There's plenty of reasons to go at Ethan and a few others here, but of all the things, it's some random fag getting his comic book fulfilled and acting like it's some grave sin. Nobody here gives a shit besides you. As @FROG said, he can have a book if he wants. Don't fucking read it, it's that simple. If the gays getting a comic book made is making you that sore, feel free to do a flip.

I have followed this thread since its inception, the quality took a deep dive for the past year or so with newcomers from "the industry", they should have been dealt with.
Posting a screenshot without achieving it? Wow.
This thread was about Comicsgate, at the beginning, the anti-CG side was documented but it is not anymore which is baffling, a war has always two sides.
You say you're following this thread, and that it's baffling that anti-CG isn't getting documented. You clearly haven't been following jack and shit, because the last two doxes that were posted here were within the anti-CG circle, both of them orbiters of Preston Poulter. If you were following this thread as you said, you'd have known that. Or are you crying about kiwis not going after the bigger SJWs opposing CG as a whole? See, I don't think you followed much of shit about the farms in general. Allow me to enlighten you.

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I'm guessing you didn't read @Smug Freiza post not too long ago, much like most of the shit that you claimed to have kept up with. So I'll relay some of what he said. We don't give a shit what tribe you belong to. If you're acting like a spicy flavor of retard, we take notice. Just so happens, people in CG can act just as retarded, spergy, and filthy as those on the other side. You talk about the quality of this thread being shitty, but you coming up in here trying to swing your dick out in this thread while you can barely spell your way out of a nutsack isn't inspiring confidence.

If you don't like the way things are here, you can have a nice tall glass of get the fuck out.
 
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