#Comicsgate - The Culture Wars Hit The Funny Books!

[FROG]

I did a quick look and there's plenty photos of scantily clad women on snowmobiles out there. Malin doesn't own that concept. Of course, at the same time Ethan is making the argument that the genderswapped Rainbow Brite parody is a common idea that's bound to be repeated.

Risible gender swapping of beloved IPs is about 50% of the reason ComicsGate became a movement. Changing male characters to female characters was annoying. It was an obvious joke to do a mass gender swap from female IP to male IP, and I did 3 or 4 videos in which this was the theme.

"Rainbow Brute" was one of four swaps in a single art video, It doesn't surprise me that many people thought of that particular joke first. It's the internet.

No, I didn't "steal" it. It just occurred to me as obvious, the same way "Strawberry Beefcake" occurred to about 15 of my viewers, including Jon Malin.

 

[jspit2.0]

Well here a dose of Liam Gray Cringe of CON-quest comics. He thinks people are going to forget how he fucked up Xenotype and trust him again.
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Look at that suit. Man needs a tie clip. Also he looks like a fuckin' Oompa Loompa. Calling yourself serious. It's like a kid's idea of an adult business man.

Risible gender swapping of beloved IPs is about 50% of the reason ComicsGate became a movement. Changing male characters to female characters was annoying. It was an obvious joke to do a mass gender swap from female IP to male IP, and I did 3 or 4 videos in which this was the theme.

"Rainbow Brute" was one of four swaps in a single art video, It doesn't surprise me that many people thought of that particular joke first. It's the internet.

No, I didn't "steal" it. It just occurred to me as obvious, the same way "Strawberry Beefcake" occurred to about 15 of my viewers, including Jon Malin.

Ethan, just accept that the minute you did anything this was going to happen. How many Battletoad jokes have you heard?

I did a quick look and there's plenty photos of scantily clad women on snowmobiles out there. Malin doesn't own that concept.

The images couldn't be more different. Which I wanted to show by putting them together. Right off the bat it was ridiculous.

 

[Mister Dongs]

One is fulfilling their book the other isn't.

That's pretty much it. On time is better than late. Late is bad but still better than complete failure. Starblades, according to updates at least, is on track to finally fulfill, Doomkicker (which was due one month after Starblades) has ceased giving updates on progress and looks on track to go full Cridious. This doesn't absolve Ritter of anything (just look at the zero fanfare Mitch Breitweiser got for fulfilling Red Rooster), but to respond to every criticism of Elliot Fernandez with "what about Starblades?" is just transparent.

Well here a dose of Liam Gray Cringe of CON-quest comics. He thinks people are going to forget how he fucked up Xenotype and trust him again.
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I don't know what part is better, the "I am the serious director of Conquest Comics" part or announcing a graphic novel showcasing a bunch of trees but no actual art.

 

[Newman's Own]

@Unverified great stuff. If it's okay, I want to plush this out.

The comic in question appears to be Rags.

Rags is deep CG lore. A comic published by Brian Ball and Trent Luther and the Gyingerarchy ie Liz Finnegan (an thot who dressed in the unicorn out fit for promotion). Originally out of Antarctic, the creative team was apart of a group of earlier grifters eyeing CG before being supplanted by Ethan and his people. Piecing together the full range of internet autism is difficult because it occurred early in CG's lifespan and some people have been cleaning up the embarrassing bits.

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Rags ran into a series of early controversy. Gators would, when accused of being racists, point out they supported Rags (they did). This infuriated Ball and company who lashed out at customers who dared defend themselves with the truth, demanded they not be called CG themselves, and proceeded to passive aggressively take shots at CG. What made this truly exceptional was rather than limit attacks to grifters like themselves, they attacked customers.

For those wondering how this heel turn has effected them. It is true Antarctic deeply under shipped allowing the book to be flipped for a decent amount. But, not only does it sell indie numbers it's a trash funder with the latest low key porn reprinting of six issue series scrapping 30,000 off 500 backers across two platforms.

Fast forward to today. Rags continues to be lowest common denominator trash. Let's look at what I assume was the image Malin chimped out about.

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Weldon is in a tough spot. He's a Mormon and Punchline isn't just the borderline porn Rags and the other Antarctic club people tend to put out. Despite that, he's emeshed with a group that hates CG, hates its base, and has spent the last two or three years being toxic. On the other side of the fence, he's friends with Miller, Baron, and company, and seems to want to get along with CG providing work for Clint Stoker and Martina Markota. He's tried to get along, do art, and make comics. But it's a literal no win situation.

Lim and crew will fill you with poison, as we saw with Doug Earnst. Miller is spewing his own brand of failure. Then you have CGtism seeping out like Malin above.



Very Liefeld.



Guy had a heart attack.

No shit. Either he can't do the work, in which case how was he able to draw and work none stop over the last year plus, or he screwed up and just doesn't want to admit it. Just, either way do right by people and give them a book or their money back and that should be the end of it.



One is fulfilling their book the other isn't.



Grown ups don't continue to passive aggressively bitch for years after something happened. Lim's crew, him included, need to grow the fuck up and not let their hate boner for CG fester. They've all acted poorly.

I get you but I disagree.

Doug "passive aggressively" told the guys spreading rumors about him he'd be happy to compare receipts.

They ignored the offer and continued to spread rumors while he tried to sell the comic he was just fulfilling.

Not sure how that's "acting poorly". Does anyone think it's a coincidence that Kelsey picked the week Ernst launched his new book to come on here and start slagging him again?

He showed up here running his mouth and getting his positive impressions from the usual simps and their daddy. When he got called out on doing this to fuck with Ernst's launch he promptly denied it and disappeared. Hasn't been back since.

I'm pretty sure he came here for a reason other than the laughs and I doubt it was diabetic drunkard Grizzly Adams idea to begin with.

Kelsey's first post.

I don't recall ever saying "fuck Doug Ernst" on a live stream, so let's make it official. Fuck Doug Ernst. The guy is a duplicitous prick.

Kelsey when he gets called out and asked for receipts to back his shit talk.

I think I made it clear enough that I wasn't messing with Doug at all and he made that into the shit show it now is.

And in fact, I'm going to leave it alone for now so he can get his books out. I don't want to mess with any creator and their fans.

We'll pick this up later.

And Kelsey when he realizes the gayop isn't going to plan. Last post.

I don't need your pity. I doubt you have it in you anyway. I would enjoy watching you eat all your bullshit though, so I'm going to stick around for that.

His last log in after that was two days after this.

These guys aren't my competition. I wish them well

Never said they were YOUR competition. I said their ability to get a book done and out to the customer in a timely fashion is embarassing to CG who can't get books out in under a year and never come close to their deadlines.

Have you wished them well? I missed that. I saw you complaining that Ernst didn't have an IGG campaign so you can keep track of the numbers and I saw you shit talking them here but no well wishes.

EDIT: Maybe this was it? Notice that Meyer has difficulty remembering Doug's name.

Placing a finished product on a website with a name that has no recognizable branding and talking about it once a week on YouTube to an audience of 25 viewers isn't going to work.

Prove me wrong.

Doug Ernst's latest book is out pacing the first book and you even kinda promoted his first book. He's beating it.

Kamen America is growing by leaps and bounds. What other proof were you looking for.

I mean growth in sales and going to a second print within a week seems like success to me. You should congratulate them if you wish them well.

 

[SaidNoOneEver]

Look at that suit. Man needs a tie clip. Also he looks like a fuckin' Oompa Loompa. Calling yourself serious. It's like a kid's idea of an adult business man.

And the camera angle makes him look like a midget. It's hard not to feel sorry for him trying so hard.

 

[FROG]

Look at that suit. Man needs a tie clip. Also he looks like a fuckin' Oompa Loompa. Calling yourself serious. It's like a kid's idea of an adult business man.



Ethan, just accept that the minute you did anything this was going to happen. How many Battletoad jokes have you heard?



The images couldn't be more different. Which I wanted to show by putting them together. Right off the bat it was ridiculous.

Malin has an entire campaign running right now with the image of a woman in a bikini on a snowmobile, shot from behind.

I don't think it's out of line that his immediate reaction was that someone copied his concept. But yes, he should have checked with the artist first.

 

[jspit2.0]

I get you but I disagree.

Okay

Doug "passive aggressively" told the guys spreading rumors about him he'd be happy to compare receipts.

He was shown to have his 'team' Lim and company, spewing poison in the voluminous DM drop.

They ignored

Everyone. Everyone includes everyone.

the offer and continued to spread rumors while he tried to sell the comic he was just fulfilling.

He threatened to talk shit and Lim and company talked shit behind the scene. I'm not arguing for anyone here. Whataboutism in a cowfest is dumb

Does anyone think it's a coincidence that Kelsey picked the week Ernst launched his new book to come on here and start slagging him again?

Anymore than him popping into threads to defend Mitch when he gets brought up? No. Again.

He showed up here running his mouth and getting his positive impressions from the usual simps and their daddy.

I've never been a simp to anyone for anything. Kelsey came on here and Ethan's drops made him look better. While I'm sure there's dirt on Cecil and Jon's end, we haven't gotten that.

I'll just say this, big picture is none of these guys have lived up to their purported ideals. The only person in the sperg fest we actually talked about that looks good is Matt Weldon and with Elliot and Kyle the only person who looks good is Ethan for literally picking someone up and putting him on his back. Which, if you remember, is how he describes his relationship with Moose Bauman.

And the camera angle makes him look like a midget. It's hard not to feel sorry for him trying so hard.

He's a short man.

Malin has an entire campaign running right now with the image of a woman in a bikini on a snowmobile, shot from behind.

I don't think it's out of line that his immediate reaction was that someone copied his concept. But yes, he should have checked with the artist first.

Come on, that reaction? I get it, he's your boy and you gotta be nice.

 

[YesNoMaybe]

Malin has an entire campaign running right now with the image of a woman in a bikini on a snowmobile, shot from behind.

I don't think it's out of line that his immediate reaction was that someone copied his concept. But yes, he should have checked with the artist first.

The ass shot to sell pinup books is about as standard a concept as you can get. Women in stages of undress in cold weather has been done before. Women on all sorts of vehicles have been done before. Nothing Malin is selling with that pinup is new ground. And even if Malin was in the right (which he wasn't), professional behavior is not whining about it on twitter.

 

[Newman's Own]

I've never been a simp to anyone for anything.

Never said you were.

I was referring to JDA, Nasser and the rest of Ethan's Kiwi Farms cheer team. Didn't mean to give you the impression I was talking about anyone else.

 

[Unverified]

I don't think it's out of line that his immediate reaction was that someone copied his concept. But yes, he should have checked with the artist first.

Call it what you will. But I contend that allowing yourself to react impulsively in public is absolutely out of line. He immediately went from vaguery to an attempt to damage Matt Weldon and turn people against him. Then made himself look like an absolute jackass, only to be praised for it. He is also clearly in contact with Matt since he said he'd commissioned him, so he really could've taken thirty seconds to send a DM before having a temper tantrum on twitter. This isn't the first time Malin has acted this way, either. He's revealed himself to be a self-righteous cunt time and time again and I just don't respect him anymore. I get that you like having him in your corner, but damn. Dude needs a reality check. He's a posturing tryhard with no real conviction.

 

[Newman's Own]

The ass shot to sell pinup books is about as standard a concept as you can get. Women in stages of undress in cold weather has been done before. Women on all sorts of vehicles have been done before. Nothing Malin is selling with that pinup is new ground. And even if Malin was in the right (which he wasn't), professional behavior is not whining about it on twitter.

Spoiler: NSFW

 

[Mister Dongs]

Sometimes I wonder if Jon Malin will ever second guess his deepset conviction that he's reinventing comic books with his Neo-Liefeld artstyle and variant swimsuit booty cover campaigns.

 

[jspit2.0]

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Sometimes I wonder if Jon Malin will ever second guess his deepset conviction that he's reinventing comic books with his Neo-Liefeld artstyle and variant swimsuit booty cover campaigns.

The worst part is I love Kenneth Roccafort.

Meanwhile, the mainstream has come up so I thought we should familiarize ourselves with the art highlights of weekly comics at the moment.

DC

Probably the current monthly juggernaut at DC is Joker. Drawn by Gullieum March, the book looks good. Now, it's funny to see March toned down.

He's clearly trying to avoid getting cancelled. But the biggest thing he and Tynion are giving us is...

Someone let Graham and Chuck down gently.

Marvel

At Marvel, the top is probably Ed McGuiness or Ryan Stegman.

What must it feel like, to have wasted the last four or more years of your life drawing Donny Cates degenerate porn and Jason Aaron's fanfics?

 

[FROG]

He overreacted, I agree. But he apologized and that's all you can really do. Nobody's perfect except me.

 

[SaidNoOneEver]

Call it what you will. But I contend that allowing yourself to react impulsively in public is absolutely out of line. He immediately went from vaguery to an attempt to damage Matt Weldon and turn people against him. Then made himself look like an absolute jackass, only to be praised for it. He is also clearly in contact with Matt since he said he'd commissioned him, so he really could've taken thirty seconds to send a DM before having a temper tantrum on twitter. This isn't the first time Malin has acted this way, either. He's revealed himself to be a self-righteous cunt time and time again and I just don't respect him anymore. I get that you like having him in your corner, but damn. Dude needs a reality check. He's a posturing tryhard with no real conviction.

Donal did the same thing not too long ago accusing someone of tracing IIRC. Then he took a self-imposed several hour "break" from Twitter to punish himself.

 

[FROG]

Never said they were YOUR competition. I said their ability to get a book done and out to the customer in a timely fashion is embarassing to CG who can't get books out in under a year and never come close to their deadlines.

Have you wished them well? I missed that. I saw you complaining that Ernst didn't have an IGG campaign so you can keep track of the numbers and I saw you shit talking them here but no well wishes.

EDIT: Maybe this was it? Notice that Meyer has difficulty remembering Doug's name.

Doug Ernst's latest book is out pacing the first book and you even kinda promoted his first book. He's beating it.

Kamen America is growing by leaps and bounds. What other proof were you looking for.

I mean growth in sales and going to a second print within a week seems like success to me. You should congratulate them if you wish them well.

They ARE CG.

I'm not sure how you missed me wishing Doug Ernst well. Every single interaction I've ever had with him in public or in private, up until very recently, has been cordial, helpful and friendly on my end.

Tim Lim can go fuck himself. He's a treacherous, womanly, gossiping shithead and his comics are gay. Having said that, KAMEN AMERICA "growing by leaps and bounds" confirms my point about crowdfunding being superior to a finished product on a website.

Doug Ernst doesn't bother me. If his book is doing better, good, my point is I haven't seen it. Where is the data? Are there visible sales figures?

 

[Newman's Own]

But he apologized and that's all you can really do.

He could invite Weldon on stream to promote whatever project he wants to make amends for being a hysterical tool bag shit stirrer.

That would be a decent way to make up for the shit Malin's followers dumped on Weldon because of him.

I won't hold my breath.

EDIT:

Doug Ernst doesn't bother me. If his book is doing better, good, my point is I haven't seen it. Where is the data? Are there visible sales figures?

Give him a follow on Twitter or watch the video I linked. He reordered 800 hardcovers, the soft covers are just coming in and there's an interesting buzz being generated around the book.

Tim Lim has posted about how the numbers are tracking.

KAMEN AMERICA "growing by leaps and bounds" confirms my point about crowdfunding being superior to a finished product on a website.

I was referring to your constant preaching about building a Youtube platform. Tim's blowing up with next to no YouTube clout.

"Placing a finished product on a website with a name that has no recognizable branding and talking about it once a week on YouTube to an audience of 25 viewers isn't going to work." - FROG

It seems like maybe there are more ways to succeed than the SciverGate way.

Why does Ernst bother Meyer so much that he does a video about him without being able to say his name or the name of the project? And Malin's cutting off guests at the mention of his name?

 

[Unverified]

Donal did the same thing not too long ago accusing someone of tracing IIRC. Then he took a self-imposed several hour "break" from Twitter to punish himself.

Yep. Donal should be considered absolute poison to work with at this point, given how he has mismanaged his own projects, been caught in numerous lies, disrespected his backers, and tried to call out other creators when he can't even get his own shit together. But he gets a pass too, because he's the artist on one of CG's biggest books. What I can't understand at all is why Ethan would even entertain the idea of letting this bag of shit draw a CyberFrog/Reignbow crossover. Especially when Donal didn't have the balls to ask for it himself. Too busy describing his bowel movements on twitter, I guess. What a fucking joke of a human being.

 

[jspit2.0]

He could invite Weldon on stream to promote whatever project he wants to make amends for being a hysterical tool bag shit stirrer.

That sounds like Jon faggot Malin buying his way out of trouble. He needs to stop being an easily triggered man baby online or get offline.

Give him a follow on Twitter or watch the video I linked. He reordered 800 hardcovers, the soft covers are just coming in and there's an interesting buzz being generated around the book.

Tim Lim has posted about how the numbers are tracking.

That's a bridge too far. Best is for the weird Trump furry and Frogman to go to their respective corners and ignore each other.

I was referring to your constant preaching about building a Youtube platform. Tim's blowing up with next to no YouTube clout.

He's done okay. But he's also got allot of people pushing him who are giving him access to their platforms.

It seems like maybe there are more ways to succeed than the SciverGate way.

Icarus and the Sun comes to mind.

Icarus and the Sun

The forbidden love story of Icarus and the Sun by Gabriel Picolo. | Check out 'Icarus and the Sun' on Indiegogo.

www.indiegogo.com

Why does Ernst bother Meyer so much that he does a video about him without being able to say his name or the name of the project? And Malin's cutting off guests at the mention of his name?

Why does it keep coming back to Earnst?

 

[Newman's Own]

Yep. Donal should be considered absolute poison to work with at this point, given how he has mismanaged his own projects, been caught in numerous lies, disrespected his backers, and tried to call out other creators when he can't even get his own shit together. But he gets a pass too, because he's the artist on one of CG's biggest books. What I can't understand at all is why Ethan would even entertain the idea of letting this bag of shit draw a CyberFrog/Reignbow crossover. Especially when Donal didn't have the balls to ask for it himself. Too busy describing his bowel movements on twitter, I guess. What a fucking joke of a human being.

I have a guess.

Spoiler: Bears of a feather...

That sounds like Jon faggot Malin buying his way out of trouble. He needs to stop being an easily triggered man baby online or get offline.

It'll never happen anyway. And he's never going to stop being a man baby.

Why does it keep coming back to Earnst?

I wish I knew.