Dave Brian Muscato / Danielle Tatiana Muscato / Danielle Brian Muscato - Half-Assed Trans Activist, Fully Arrested, Rape Appropriator, Currently Trying to Extort His Parents

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What Dave doesn't get is that ghosting is a way of telling someone you're just not into them, and don't want further contact.

He doesn't have to like it. I think we can all agree that being ghosted is disappointing. It can really hurt, sometimes. But people usually ghost for a couple of reasons: they don't want to be with you, and they don't want to deal with the drama (be it merely potential, or else absolutely assured) of telling you that directly.

And given how fucking needy Dave is, while at the same time being constantly at the ready to tell people who disagree with him that they are not just wrong, and ignorant, but even malevolent, and always playing the goddamned victim while asserting his moral superiority? Oh, and not to mention he's ugly and makes no effort to pass, and is a chronically-broke and begging malingerer, and you're not even going to get laid in exchange for putting up with his leeching? No shit, people who make the mistake of entering his orbit are going to ghost on him.

It doesn't even have to be disappointed would-be lovers, either; he's a user and a sucking emotional drain who would make a lousy friend, too, because you'd be walking on eggshells all the time so as not to hurt his feelings (and oh boy, you'd hear all about what an insensitive clod you were if you did).

So yeah, Dave; that's why people ghost on you: you're too thin-skinned and high-maintenance, and a particularly nasty combo of fragile and arrogant. Why should they tell you why they aren't interested? So you can make them feel guilty for rejecting poor, poor, oppressed you? Yeah, right.
 
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Angry New Ager said:
Oh, and not to mention he's ugly and makes no effort to pass, and is a chronically-broke and begging malingerer, and you're not even going to get laid in exchange for putting up with his leeching?
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I can't imagine anyone, gay or straight, man, woman or other would want to actually have sex with him. Never mind his appearance, just his attitude, self righteous preaching, his borderline insane views, even for a SJW, he's just off putting.
 
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I can't imagine anyone, gay or straight, man, woman or other would want to actually have sex with him. Never mind his appearance, just his attitude, self righteous preaching, his borderline insane views, even for a SJW, he's just off putting.
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He claims to be asexual, so why he's meeting even up with people from a dating app in the first place is beyond me.

Then again, most of the Tumblr asexual crowd I've seen go on to claim that they do still have romantic feelings for other people, and I'm pretty sure he's claimed that himself. So basically, he's an emotional parasite looking for a willing host. Yeah, no wonder he got ghosted.

Honestly, he'd have an easier time finding some dude in NYC who just wants to fuck his ugly troon self and leave immediately afterward. There are dudes out there who will fuck pretty much anything, after all. But that's not what he's after, not if his claims about himself have any truth to them (yeah, I know...).
 
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What Dave doesn't get is that ghosting is a way of telling someone you're just not into them, and don't want further contact.

He doesn't have to like it. I think we can all agree that being ghosted is disappointing. It can really hurt, sometimes. But people usually ghost for a couple of reasons: they don't want to be with you, and they don't want to deal with the drama (be it merely potential, or else absolutely assured) of telling you that directly.

And given how fucking needy Dave is, while at the same time being constantly at the ready to tell people who disagree with him that they are not just wrong, and ignorant, but even malevolent, and always playing the goddamned victim while asserting his moral superiority? Oh, and not to mention he's ugly and makes no effort to pass, and is a chronically-broke and begging malingerer, and you're not even going to get laid in exchange for putting up with his leeching? No shit, people who make the mistake of entering his orbit are going to ghost on him.

It doesn't even have to be disappointed would-be lovers, either; he's a user and a sucking emotional drain who would make a lousy friend, too, because you'd be walking on eggshells all the time so as not to hurt his feelings (and oh boy, you'd hear all about what an insensitive clod you were if you did).

So yeah, Dave; that's why people ghost on you: you're too thin-skinned and high-maintenance, and a particularly nasty combo of fragile and arrogant. Why should they tell you why they aren't interested? So you can make them feel guilty for rejecting poor, poor, oppressed you? Yeah, right.
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Yeah, I think a lot of people in this milieu believe that when friends etc. ghost, that that's pretty much just how everyone exits someone's life today. But for me and most people I know, friendships usually (and relationships pretty much always) end after a difficult heartfelt talk where someone says "I like some things about you but can't sustain our current relationship because of x, y, and z, this isn't negotiable and I've felt this way for a while, I'm sorry."

This is how normal real life works with adults. If you're getting ghosted more than once in a great while, it's hugely likely you're an aggressive asshole who visibly and obviously can't take criticism without blowing up, or a passive-aggressive asshole who will twist the knife on anyone who might not want a relationship with them.
 
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Yeah, I think a lot of people in this milieu believe that when friends etc. ghost, that that's pretty much just how everyone exits someone's life today. But for me and most people I know, friendships usually (and relationships pretty much always) end after a difficult heartfelt talk where someone says "I like some things about you but can't sustain our current relationship because of x, y, and z, this isn't negotiable and I've felt this way for a while, I'm sorry."

This is how normal real life works with adults. If you're getting ghosted more than once in a great while, it's hugely likely you're an aggressive asshole who visibly and obviously can't take criticism without blowing up, or a passive-aggressive asshole who will twist the knife on anyone who might not want a relationship with them.
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But this wasn't even a friend or a relationship. It was somebody he met on a dating site.

And, for all we know, they never even met IRL--they could have just exchanged a few DMs or texts before this person decided Dave wasn't what they were looking for and quit responding.

In cases like that, I take ghosting to mean the other person decided they weren't attracted after all, and since neither of them had much invested in the interaction with each other, it was easier to just vanish. Maybe the ghoster didn't have a reason beyond, "I'm just not feeling it," and trying to explain it felt insurmountably awkward. Or, hey--maybe they really did think Dave was hideous, or a loser who routinely makes bad life decisions, or spotted him as a Cluster B sucking vortex of drama, and no, they didn't want to remain "just friends," and how do you even start to have that uncomfortable conversation, ending something before it's even begun? And with somebody you've just met, where you have no history and no real bond, is it even necessary?

People do ghost on longtime friends, but often the reasons are complicated. Ghosting on a new acquaintance from a dating site? Not complicated at all. They're just not into you. And healthy adults may still be disappointed by that, and that's perfectly okay, but they also get it, move on, and eventually meet somebody else who is into them. They don't post passive-aggressive, self-pitying tweets about it, in an attempt to make the one who ghosted them feel guilty (assuming that person is still reading their Twitter), as well as garner pity from their friends list.
 
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XxxwernxxX said:
I can't imagine anyone, gay or straight, man, woman or other would want to actually have sex with him. Never mind his appearance, just his attitude, self righteous preaching, his borderline insane views, even for a SJW, he's just off putting.
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If I'm not mistaken, there is people who claim to be attracted to people who look like Muscato. To me, there are two options: either they lie to sound ultramegapolyultimatepansexual or they do like most of people, and choose to focus in the likes of the Muscatos out there for the same prior reason.
 
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He claims to be asexual, so why he's meeting even up with people from a dating app in the first place is beyond me.

Then again, most of the Tumblr asexual crowd I've seen go on to claim that they do still have romantic feelings for other people, and I'm pretty sure he's claimed that himself. So basically, he's an emotional parasite looking for a willing host. Yeah, no wonder he got ghosted.

Honestly, he'd have an easier time finding some dude in NYC who just wants to fuck his ugly troon self and leave immediately afterward. There are dudes out there who will fuck pretty much anything, after all. But that's not what he's after, not if his claims about himself have any truth to them (yeah, I know...).
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I find it more disappointing that someone from a dating site is willing to meet up with his ugly fat ass

Although I guess a bi-male that happens to be a bear might find him attractive (physically, at least)
 
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I think the only thing I agree with Muscato, EVER, is on the Ghosting thing. Kinda.

I've never been ghosted, I never ghosted anyone or do I know anyone that did it or had it happen to them, but it sounds needlessly rude. Just tell the person that you're not interested and that's that.

Plus, I too find it too unbelievable that anyone, short of another creepy troon, finding Danielle attractive. There's no appeal to something that LOOKS like a man, but tries so hard to unsuccessfully pass as a woman.
 
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You know, I don't think I've ever seen a woman bring up "ghosting" as general complaint they have about online dating. You can be sure there's dudes all over bodybuilding.com and reddit that bitch about it ad nauseam though.

I find feminist ideas about stuff like "emotional labor" incredibly obnoxious, but the fact that guys' apparent #1 complaint about dating is "if someone is tired of interacting with me, I expect them to continue to interact with me to tell me that and also to give me an explanation as to why" sure does play into their theory. It's one more example of just how much Dave has in common with other men (or maybe incels) and how he has absolutely nothing in common with women.

It also looks like after something like 6 months, whoever he was mooching off of in NYC finally kicked him out. http://archive.is/2Elic I wonder how much longer until he invades another women's shelter.
 
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You know, I don't think I've ever seen a woman bring up "ghosting" as general complaint they have about online dating. You can be sure there's dudes all over bodybuilding.com and reddit that bitch about it ad nauseam though.

I find feminist ideas about stuff like "emotional labor" incredibly obnoxious, but the fact that guys' apparent #1 complaint about dating is "if someone is tired of interacting with me, I expect them to continue to interact with me to tell me that and also to give me an explanation as to why" sure does play into their theory. It's one more example of just how much Dave has in common with other men (or maybe incels) and how he has absolutely nothing in common with women.
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Women do get ghosted occasionally, but, from my observations, they're more likely to get deluged by unwanted responses from men, and have a hard time getting unsuitable men to take the hint and leave them alone, so they are much more likely to ghost.

In Dave's case, it looks like he's doing a typical male thing: Somebody wasn't into him, so they ghosted. Dave wants to know why, and if he's a typical male it's because he sees that person's rejection of him as a problem that can be solved once he's shown them that they're mistaken.

But given how passive-aggressive and manipulative he can be, I think it's also an attempt to drum up sympathy from his Twitter followers--because otherwise, why not contact the person who ghosted him privately? Why make it public? That tweet wasn't intended solely for the person who ghosted him; it was meant for all of his followers to see and form an opinion of. Gee, I wonder why?

Being rejected and shit upon by heartless, bigoted others is a huge part of he story Dave tells about himself--he's constantly got new examples of it, because he's constantly getting into fresh conflicts. I suspect at least part of his refusal to make a sincere attempt to pass as a woman is because he actually needs the conflicts that being a conspicuously non-passing man in a dress creates. Otherwise, he'd be a complete non-entity. And how would he be able to convince anybody to give him money to support his heroic and much-needed "activism" without conflict?

I mean, shit--he was a euphoric atheist, and had a job doing PR for an atheist organization before he trooned out. I'm sure he got himself into a lot of stupid, petty, mostly-avoidable conflicts back then, either by goading his chosen enemies into them, or rising to tasty theist bait. And he probably used those conflicts as evidence of the rightness of his cause and the wrongness of his adversaries.

Same shit, different day.

So (allegedly) being ghosted by somebody from a dating site, and making a plaintive tweet about it, reinforces his "I am constantly rejected and shit upon just for being myself," narrative, while doing so in a soft enough way to elicit pity and sympathetic comments. After all of his ranting about TERFs (who, 99.9% of the time aren't really TERFs at all), and playing keyboard warrior against people who poke sticks at him on Twitter just to watch him rage, he offers up a bit of vulnerability to make his followers think, "Aww, he really is a gentle soul, and misunderstood." And then maybe, the next time he e-begs, they'll send him pitybux.

It also looks like after something like 6 months, whoever he was mooching off of in NYC finally kicked him out. http://archive.is/2Elic I wonder how much longer until he invades another women's shelter.
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Interesting. It looks like he's got someone else to leech off for now, but given that they're not in NYC, and thus it's inferior and beneath him, I'm sure he'll blow it up in no time. I'm sure he's already trying to line up a new host in NYC so he doesn't have to live in exile any longer than he has to.

And I have no doubt he'll end up bullying his way into another women's shelter eventually. But when he does, he runs the risk of losing followers who are on the fence about his status as a trans woman who makes no attempt to pass, or who are otherwise not wholly committed to his "I'm a woman because I identify as one, no matter what I look like!" ideology. You really have to be mainlining the poisoned Kool-Aid in order to side with unapologetically non-passing Dave over vulnerable women who are upset that a women's shelter allows a man to take up residence.

Dave invading a women's shelter and claiming he has a right to be there, even if his presence is detrimental to natal women, is the sort of thing that will make a lot of supporters of trans rights (especially natal women) stop and think, "Hey, wait--is this right? This doesn't feel right." And they might actually go think about it. And it's in Dave's best interests for them not to think about it. So I think he'll keep seeking out new hosts for as long as he can, and only go back to a women's shelter when he truly has no one to leech off.

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I'm actually surprised to see him retreat from NYC. It's a sensible choice.
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It doesn't look like he had much choice in the matter. Whoever he's been living with has given him the boot, and trying to find housing on short notice when you have no money is pretty much impossible. Some other sucker outside of NYC just happens to have offered him a place to stay. So I'd say it's less "sensible" than "opportunistic."
 
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