Do we need to reign in technology?

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It occurs to me at times that the tech available today is in part responsible for a lot of issues..

.... Well okay, its of course always the user at fault, but if you give 100 dumb monkeys a fork and 99 of them immediately stick it in an electric outlet, at some point you have to think, "maybe giving forks to dumb monkeys isn't a good idea" (unless you want them to die).

By the same logic, if 100 people have internet access and 99 of those people decide to troon out.... you get where this is going, right?

It bothers me that just last week I heard a six year old boy say his teacher is "a total karen," and before that I heard a 10-year-old and a 13-year-old joke about "having terabytes of cheese pizza" (and yes, those kids fully knew what "cheese pizza" was a euphemism for--one of those kids, upon being shown gameplay footage of shantae, also immediately looked up a rule 34 site).

It really makes me wish that technology had not advanced beyond the Furby.
 
In my experience kids are gonna know about adult shit whether you like it or not. Back in elementary school all the cool kids were watching South Park and giggling about Cartman telling Mister Garrison to suck his balls. In second grade one of my closest buddies was an albino slasher film autist. I was deeply confused when he started talking about Michael Myers and I was like "Austin Powers?"
I'm rambling but the point is that kids are always going to be exposed to things that are made for adults, whether that be gory films, dirty humor, or discord degeneracy. It's how you deal with that which ultimately matters.
 
No, i don't believe we do. What we need to do is unchain technology and free it from its' corporate grips. The internet was better when it was the wild west. Piracy and streaming should all be the same thing and free.

We have invented the ability to share the whole history of our civilisation, to share creations and display locally created artworks, plays and musical pieces, to the furthest corners of the world. Yet doing it is limited by paywalls, ads and, in the case of the Farms, thin-skinned emotional retards blocking access.

I can build a 'green' sustainably powered hover pack for less than the price of a second-hand car, but I'm not allowed because I have to have a full pilots license to fly a drone 10ft in the air.
 
To expand a little....

I think also of modern social trends. I can't imagine SJWs would've been as big or as powerful as they are without the internet, for example.

It's not even just the internet, or kids having access to it, either.

We hear a lot that there's a problem with unemployment and people not being able to find jobs. And yet car manufacturers are a billion dollar industry. Surely those cars need a lot of factory workers, right?.... No, those are done through automation, when they could've had a human doing the job and getting paid and feeding his family.

Then again, admittedly I may be talking about things I've been misinformed about.
 
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technology by itself is fine but industrialization has raised the stakes of any given technology from being transient and harmless to permanent and harmful while nobody can predict the consequences (ARPA and Tim Berners-Lee couldnt have known how dangerous it would be to make communication faster and easier)
but "reining in" progress with legislation means forcing people into shittier conditions for a wishy-washy goal they care less about, which will never happen
the only way we can prevent disaster is by smashing up power plants
 
The alternative to rapid, uncontrolled and amoral technological progress is slow and cautious progress, and seriously who wants to only be able to buy a new iphone every 10 years?
 
The alternative to rapid, uncontrolled and amoral technological progress is slow and cautious progress, and seriously who wants to only be able to buy a new iphone every 10 years?
There might be a number of advantages to this. Companies will have to make things that last again. No more cheap labor, manufacturing has to go back to places with some semblance of quality control like the US, Europe, and Japan. Less toxic waste will end up in our landfills.
 
You can try but it won't work.
There was not ONCE in human history where humanity rejected new discoveries and tech.
 
We need to gatekeep the internet again. Make it less retard proof.
 
There might be a number of advantages to this. Companies will have to make things that last again. No more cheap labor, manufacturing has to go back to places with some semblance of quality control like the US, Europe, and Japan. Less toxic waste will end up in our landfills.
How do you plan to convince the devout Applist chink cock licking consoomers to see things your way and sacrifice the 1 extra camera lens their phone has added to it every year?
 
Yes, Imperial China. It didn't end well for them.
Now that you mention it I'm fairly sure imperial Japan also tried to isolate itself from the Western imports, like guns, which threatened the very core of their societal norms.
It didn't last and they eventually gave up.
 
Now that you mention it I'm fairly sure imperial Japan also tried to isolate itself from the Western imports, like guns, which threatened the very core of their societal norms.
It didn't last and they eventually gave up.
Japan and China are the best examples of the danger of reigning technology. China was an economic and technological powerhouse until they stopped to make the dynasties and bureaucracies more stable. In the meantime Europe surpassed it and Britain figuratively raped China. Japan had a love/hate connection with the west, but eventually saw what happened to China and took the lesser evil option, which gave them a massive advantage over their surrounding countries and ended with them literally raping China.

And China are still butthurt over those two.
 
Call me autistic for this but it's REIN in, not REIGN. It'll be easier to remember if you think of the reins you use to control horses. (People often make the same error by saying "free reign" instead of "free rein" but that's more forgivable since it still hints towards the correct meaning)

To answer the question: it's one of those questions that's way too general for people to give a straight yes or no answer to. You'll have to narrow it down to what kind of technology has to be reined in, and how you think it should be done and to what extent.
 
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Yes, because eventually technology will kill us all. Look at the scamdemic. Yeah, it was a bunch of bullshit overreaction, but the virus was created by scientists Ralph Baric and Shi Shengli as part of "gain of function" shit for the sake of science. What do you think is going to happen when anyone equipped with $10,000 lab equipment can make up their own virus in their basement? Because that's the future we're headed for.

Or transhumanist technologies which will let people splice themselves with animals to make up new species. That's what furries want and are getting. Here's an excerpt from the Freedom of Form Foundation, a "morphological freedom" group which is a tax exempt charity. They sponsor and promote otherkin research to literally turn people into furry freak shit. If you understand CRISPR and other genetic tech hyped by transhumanists, they stand a very realistic chance of being able to accomplish this within a century or two, at least to the degree troons can turn themselves into the opposite sex. Because transgenderism is just the tip of the transhumanist degeneracy iceberg, and that's where science is headed. The Freedom of Form Foundation is like the early gay advocacy groups in the 50s--at this rate they'll be hailed as pioneers.

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Or how about AI? AI is a fun tool and one which might make a lot of entertainment better, but it's also gonna automate away most jobs, take away our cars (mandatory self-driving cars), and create a world where any evil corporation or government can launch a propaganda campaign on a budget while waving away all their misdeeds as "AI disinformation." They're already laying the groundwork to do this.

Or space? Space exploration and colonization is good, right? Except every space colony is a self-contained environment which you can never leave (lest you quickly die of lack of oxygen or thirst) and in which the people in charge control even the air you breathe. They can pump you full of CO2 to dull your senses

Watch this video from Youtuber and National Space Society president Isaac Arthur where he uses math to determine that if creating a deadly AI has a given chance of happening in a year, then it will happen on several planets every year, but this is somehow better if we have a whole galaxy since "only" a few solar systems are totally destroyed every year. This is a guy who is optimistic about technology to the point of ridiculousness that even he says that entire solar systems might be wiped out and more or less says it's "part and parcel" of colonizing a galaxy.

Let's not even get into Internet of Bodies. @Drain Todger has covered that very well and cites the actual papers of Charles Lieber (CCP asset), Josep Jornet, Ian Akyildiz, etc. who are making great strides toward the hackable humans that Klaus Schwab's best bro Yuval Noah Harari desires. It all ties in with 5G and its successor 6G tech and the effects of terahertz radiation on what can be assembled within the body using cellular antennae assembled by the body itself using mRNA tech.

Point is, YES WE FUCKING DO. If humanity--or literally any species on Earth now--is to survive, we must ban all future technology research, monitor every science lab, and enforce it with the threat of immediate execution and nuclear destruction. Like this is the one and only good reason for a world government I can think of--stopping all future innovation. Although ironically you might need slightly better tech than today, like abolishing all power plants and force every nation to use energy from solar power satellites.
Now that you mention it I'm fairly sure imperial Japan also tried to isolate itself from the Western imports, like guns, which threatened the very core of their societal norms.
It didn't last and they eventually gave up.
And it created a golden age for Japan, which had since 1331 been more or less in a constant state of war. After Tokugawa Ieyasu consolidated the country, there were practically no wars until the fall of the Shogunate 250+ years later which was unprecedented not only in Japanese history but pretty much anywhere in the world. The population massive expanded, all sorts of industries developed, and Japan became a proto-industrial society on par with most of continental Europe.

They didn't ban guns either, they were a fundamental part of the Tokugawa Shogunate's military who maintained a network of armories and ordered many samurai clans to train in firearms. But since there were no wars and most conflicts could be dealt with through a swordfight or two against the dissident since muskets are heavy, people preferred swords. Can't whip out a musket/old-ass black powder pistol on command and behead a peasant, but you sure can do it with a sword (and since it takes more skill to learn well, shows you're a true elite). They also did cautiously accept foreign learning like the rangaku scholars (imported Dutch books since the Dutch were allowed to trade with them in one port).

It's a great example of why Confucianism is an effective ideology (since this is the ultimate example of conservatism in practice) and why IMO the human race will need to borrow elements from it to fight the menace of technology. The establishment of a Confucianism-esque society worldwide could very well result in nigh-endless peace. Technology is a major cause of why empires rise and fall, after all (i.e. "gunpowder empires" or the conquest of the world by Europeans), so no more tech = a very stable and conservative society. The best examples of Confucianism in practice, Joseon Korea and Edo Japan, both fell because of external powers, so if a pseudo-Confucianism (IMO Confucianism has some problems and does need to be adapted to non-Sinic societies) dominates the world than the only external powers are the ayyylmaos and we're probably safe from them for a very long time.
 
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