Do you dig on multiverses?

every multiverse i've seen are half assed, it's just a tool used by lazy and incompletely writers to have their cake and eat it too. it could be interesting but haven't seen anyone use it competently.


if you mean real mutiverses then who knows and who cares, even if real there's no way to prove or check it so why bother having an opinion on it.
 
Always liked the idea of the Backrooms multiverse but never understood why nobody ever came up with a way to get in and out reliably to actually develop it.

You've got a basically limitless supply of power and endless space with a controlled climate on that first level. Move people in there, renovate some parts into residential/commercial/industrial property and lease it out for pennies per square foot. You'll make a fortune.

Sure you could have to deal with dangerous entities and it's probably like living in an office or finished basement, but is that really much worse than living in the ghetto? At least they won't kill you for a cigarette. Hell, you could make money just incinerating the entire world's garbage there, or turn it into a prison, or use it for spent nuclear fuel storage.
 
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It's a fine crutch to just make what if story's but as something to focus on out side of like 2 dc crisis events it all ends up as dick cheese, just pure smegma.
 
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I find them often to be painfully overdone, boring and unoriginal. It makes getting into longstanding franchises harder since everything is just multiverse fanservice slop.

If a story is written with multiverses in mind and with a lot of internal consistency, then it could be pretty good. Often, though, it's just a crutch to make whatever you want happen without having to adequately explain any of it.
 
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like anything, it requires a competent creator to execute it.

I'll forgive DC to an extent because they were the first to use them in popular media iirc and it did become kind of a big clusterfuck.
 
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They're ok at best. At worst, it's an easy out for authors that have written themselves in the corner, which also means that any tension that might be have been in the story is now moot. Why would you care that a character died, when you know the author is going to do some multiverse shit and call in a version of that character from another universe?
 
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I was already familiar with multiverses via comic books well before they became "Current Pop Culture Meme/Franchise Saver", and even back then I could see how they really mucked superhero continuity up.

Like superhero universes and increasingly long-running franchises in general, they not only accidentally remove all the stakes by letting you introduce another 'verse's version of (X) Character to replace a dead or ruined one, they simultaneously up the stakes by making it not merely "THIS THREAT AFFECTS THE WHOLE WORLD!" but "THIS THREAT AFFECTS THE WHOLE MULTIVERSE!!!!111". And you can only up stakes so long, make them bigger and bigger, before you completely drop off of relatability for whatever story you're writing for. And once introduced, the temptation to go back to them for the aforementioned reasons but mere "imaginary tale", "filler", "what-if" stories is far too tempting instead of actually figuring out stuff in the main 'verse/timeline of your franchise or moving it on properly or God forbid giving it a satisfying ending and moving on, period.

I used to say at best they should be an idea that's introduced once, maybe used again in a long-running franchise and call it a day. Now I can barely tolerate it if it's even hinted at and otherwise never used.
 
I was already familiar with multiverses via comic books well before they became "Current Pop Culture Meme/Franchise Saver", and even back then I could see how they really mucked superhero continuity up.

Like superhero universes and increasingly long-running franchises in general, they not only accidentally remove all the stakes by letting you introduce another 'verse's version of (X) Character to replace a dead or ruined one, they simultaneously up the stakes by making it not merely "THIS THREAT AFFECTS THE WHOLE WORLD!" but "THIS THREAT AFFECTS THE WHOLE MULTIVERSE!!!!111". And you can only up stakes so long, make them bigger and bigger, before you completely drop off of relatability for whatever story you're writing for. And once introduced, the temptation to go back to them for the aforementioned reasons but mere "imaginary tale", "filler", "what-if" stories is far too tempting instead of actually figuring out stuff in the main 'verse/timeline of your franchise or moving it on properly or God forbid giving it a satisfying ending and moving on, period.

I used to say at best they should be an idea that's introduced once, maybe used again in a long-running franchise and call it a day. Now I can barely tolerate it if it's even hinted at and otherwise never used.
Honestly /thread with this in terms of serious discussion.
After a while the big stuff outweighs the small stuff by a lot, and while there is a vast amount of people cool with their small-time existing alongside the multiversal threats; there are others that get tired of seeing their street level guys be made superfluous by bigger threats that literally only a few heroes can handle.

By going so high up on the scale, you lose a lot of the lower stuff that makes a hero a hero. Like why would I give a fuck about Batman handling a new murder mystery after a big event? I literally saw him handle his own on Apokolips with no problem, he's fine to handle whatever issue The Penguin can throw at him without my viewership lol.
 
I was once part of a tabletop rpg campaign where the DM introduced multiverses, and a few of us players brainstormed the implication that the multiverse would be consumed by a few sparring rogue superintelligences, and nothing our characters did really mattered.

It was good in that context because it was already a cosmic horror setting.
 
I was once part of a tabletop rpg campaign where the DM introduced multiverses, and a few of us players brainstormed the implication that the multiverse would be consumed by a few sparring rogue superintelligences, and nothing our characters did really mattered.

It was good in that context because it was already a cosmic horror setting.
I like that a lot, one of the things I want to do in terms of writing with my friend's multiverse setting we ran for years, I wanted to make an entire universe/multiverse into a personified enemy. I'll sperg my Idea in spoilers lol
Basically, first DND campaign we did, I made a Dr. Doom expy whose whole thing was trying to bring tech up to magical standards by creating the first magitech reactor etc etc. This would lead into another game where everything was more magitech and had a lot more industrial age shit as well.

Anyways, after all 's well ended well, we fought a cosmic thing that showed that the world is one of many while also having massive space monsters that act as part of the universal entropy cycle. (Think carrion feeders). While everyone elses characters were left becoming closer to their chosen gods or getting their hearts content etc, my Doom used the next campaign to create a larger techy city etc. we focused new characters that explored for the city and even the tech after and it was rad as fuck, but inevitably we left that world after some time because we'd been playing that same setting with different campaings for years!!

I want to blow my friends' minds by having my Dr. Doom come back and be that he is the living embodiment of his universal collapse, basically an entire character that encapsulates alllll of that 10 years of writing basically coming through Doom's armor that refuses to die to the entropy. Doom would have found a way to contain all of that universe's death into a single being that would be flung into a new setting. Like a cosmic nameless armor boss fight. Or like Gael from Dark Souls 3
 
Multiverses are gay and retarded. It just makes it so that a story has no stakes and consequences since the writer can undo any decisions by just pulling a new universe out of his ass.
 
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like anything, it requires a competent creator to execute it.

I'll forgive DC to an extent because they were the first to use them in popular media iirc and it did become kind of a big clusterfuck.
DC’s multiverse was for a time the only one that really worked but then they really started over complicating things and it fell apart partially due to bad writers getting control.
 
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