Do You Hate OSHA?

[Dave.]

I've heard a lot of company managers and employees say that absolutely loathe OSHA. However, I don't know much about them, so I'm curious if there are any business owners on the Kiwi Farms who have to deal with OSHA and why they hate them so much or why maybe they appreciate what OSHA has done. I'm going to guess the majority opinion is hate because business regulation is generally frowned upon in the thunderdome, but I'd like to know what OSHA has done and why you guys hate them.

 

[Rudy Coleman]

imagine some retarted faggot whos never worked a day in construction who has the power to invalidate weeks/thousands of dollars of work at whim.

 

[Mexican Molotov Marauder]

Not 'murican, but I had to deal with the local equivalent and @Rudy Coleman is pretty spot on. Think about these regulatory agencies as the most obnoxious, smug, know-it-all niggerfaggot nanny you can imagine. The kind of bitch that is convinced she knows your job better than you do, despite not working a single solitary second in it. This nanny is hired by your abusive stepfather, the government, to watch your ass and has the power to regulate or veto any decision you make. As a power tripping lunatic that derives sexual pleasure from exercising this power, she abuses it at any given opportunity, all at your expense.

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

I fucking hate railings

 

[Chilson]

OSHA had a purpose, but like every other government alphabet department its grown too large, incompetent and corrupt. Most of the people who work in OSHA know exactly dick all about construction and soft bribery of OSHA officials is commonplace. Which only further slows down and inflates the cost of the already expensively grueling process of construction.

 

[WelperHelper99]

OSHA had a purpose, but like every other government alphabet department its grown too large, incompetent and corrupt. Most of the people who work in OSHA know exactly dick all about construction and soft bribery of OSHA officials is commonplace. Which only further slows down and inflates the cost of the already expensively grueling process of construction.

As a welder, you basically got it. Some of the stuff they tell you to do is completely reasonable, makes sense, like safety glasses and ear plugs. But a lot of it is just bureaucracy for bureaucracy sake. Ways to bitch at you and get fine money.

 

[herefortheactualthreads]

OSHA could have been useful if the owner of the submarine wouldn't ignore it to use carbon on the whole submarine. just saying.

 

[generic sauce]

I hate all nanny state government regulations. Like other people in the thread have said they are back asswards fucktards who are there to piss on your fucking day.

 

[Troon_Patrol]

Like all government organizations this starts with some horrific accident, I don't even know where or when but, I'm sure that's where OSHA came from. And like all government organizations it became over-funded, bureaucratic, hypocritical and wasteful. Actions become based on arbitrary regulations rather than actual safety, two different inspectors have two different ideas of what safety should be. A railing being 2" shorter than regulation is a huge fine, the next room over there is a 10,000lb pot of molten steel with no railing and it doesn't violate code.

TL;DR Gov orgs start off with good intentions and then becomes just another Gov org.

 

[Dockmongler420]

No, OSHA is based. Without it there'd be a LiveLeak logo permanently hovering over every blue collar worker's head

 

[Moths]

I like the idea that my employer is forced to try and not get me killed.

 

[frozen_runner]

Here's the question, and it's one I genuinely do not know the answer to: without a government agency to enforce safety standards, would there even be sufficient safety standards? I want to say people wouldn't work in pointlessly unsafe places, but I know enough to know that isn't true.

If someone can prove to me OSHA has had no discernable positive effect on workplace safety, I will be relieved as a libertarian.

 

[KittyGremlin]

their tyranny can not reach me here

and if they could, my boss is too autistic to understand them

 

[WelperHelper99]

Here's the question, and it's one I genuinely do not know the answer to: without a government agency to enforce safety standards, would there even be sufficient safety standards? I want to say people wouldn't work in pointlessly unsafe places, but I know enough to know that isn't true.

If someone can prove to me OSHA has had no discernable positive effect on workplace safety, I will be relieved as a libertarian.

The answer is, as always, complicated. There are ALWAYS companies that would, if possible, make you work in soviet coal mine slave conditions because they don't want to hear you bitch and they want more money.

There is a need. However OSHA is a bloated monster. There are good things they recommend, then there's overkill, then there's retardation. Add in a pinch of bribery, and that's where we come to today, where some of the regulations actually interfere with certain jobs.

 

[George Lucas]

OSHA is based and most of their regulations make sense. I’ve yet to encounter a boneheaded rule that came from OSHA.

The EPA on the other hand…

 

[not william stenchever]

I know a lawyer that has been in cases where their firm were opposing OSHA and the highlights are pretty comical. The person OSHA was suing over was some retard working for a tree trimming outfit that repeatedly ignored warnings by his coworkers to stop standing in the area where branches were going to land. He ended up catching a widowmaker that shattered his neck vertebrae and basically killed him instantly. OSHA's lawyer when the case went to trial put a hardhat on the courtroom floor and jumped up and down on it to prove that the hardhat should have been able to stop the falling branch from breaking the idiot's spine, thereby proving that the arborist company was at fault for not making the idiot wear his hardhat.

This is quality of people claiming to advocate for the rights of workers.

 

[Chilson]

A lot of people in this thread don't seem to know the difference between having "safety regulations" and actually enforcing them. Most of OSHA's safety regulations make sense, no one is arguing that.

What OSHA does poorly is actually enforce those regulations because those who work for this bloated wasteful monster of a Government Org. are corrupt, wasteful and sloppy like every other government ABC organization.

Their inspectors have virtually no industry experience and often pull out reasons to fine employers out of their asses over frankly minor at best infractions or because the employees were acting in such a stupid manner that the employer could have never protected them. All while missing the obvious dangers to employees that should have been addressed, at times, decades ago.

 

[Baked Al-Aqsa]

I fucking hate railings

Deuteronomy 22:8

OSHA regs like the UCC (uniform construction code), are based in things that make sense and are logical. That being said, most inspectors either are completely clueless and will miss obvious violations staring at them in the face (or not even enter a jobsite) or be so stringent and call out bullshit things that literally do not matter but technically are violations.

 

[The Connected Nose]

without a government agency to enforce safety standards, would there even be sufficient safety standards? I want to say people wouldn't work in pointlessly unsafe places, but I know enough to know that isn't true.

See: India, Pakistan, China, etc...

Count the number of accidents waiting to happen here.

 

[Lobster Cult High Priest]

I know a lawyer that has been in cases where their firm were opposing OSHA and the highlights are pretty comical. The person OSHA was suing over was some retard working for a tree trimming outfit that repeatedly ignored warnings by his coworkers to stop standing in the area where branches were going to land. He ended up catching a widowmaker that shattered his neck vertebrae and basically killed him instantly. OSHA's lawyer when the case went to trial put a hardhat on the courtroom floor and jumped up and down on it to prove that the hardhat should have been able to stop the falling branch from breaking the idiot's spine, thereby proving that the arborist company was at fault for not making the idiot wear his hardhat.

This is quality of people claiming to advocate for the rights of workers.

Behead lawyers roundhouse kick a lawyer into the concrete.