Does anyone else here absolutely hate Christmas?

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Please, do we have to do the whole spending way too much on stupid gifts mostly for people I barely care about, thing? And the need for two whole feasts, just because we can't make it to both families in one day? And then all the work that goes into having a Living Christmas Tree choir concert. That thing doesn't build itself, or put lights on itself that are timed for a musical performance, you know. And everyone agrees it should be done, but the volunteers to make such a thing happen get thinner year after year.

Seriously, the only things that give me pleasure after Thanksgiving (which we have as a small casual affair, just the two of us) are ringing the bell and yelling "Merry Christmas!" at randos in front of my local grocery store, and going to a quiet candlelight service on Christmas Eve. But that's not socially acceptable. Everything and everyone must be over the top with joy and love and peace, even when the hypocrisy is blatant. Am I just a fucking Scrooge?
 
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Since you obviously like to overthink things, try and and do this over this rant. Who cares? It's a nice moment with family and kids make it worth it with their legit happiness. It does not need to be much more than this. And if it does, you have no moral obligation to partake in the set up if you don't want to.

I don't care enough to hate it. I don't even know what you're talking about people over doing it. It's not like you can't just ignore it.

I think it all boils down to ; whatever, who cares?
 
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Lapsus of the bepsus said:
Protip; learn to bake cookies and shit (it's based and fun) and wherever you don't want to go just send a box of cookies in your stead, people will think fondly of you even if you don't actually show up
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You mean I finally have to learn chemistry? I can cook all day, but I hate baking, and it's probably because I don't do it enough.
 
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For the locally cultural, Christianity unrelated reasons I hate Easter so much my hatred for it completely overshadows my slight dislike for how other days are celebrated.
Christmas, tho, is okay, until someone brings up shit like Secret Santa, but as I don't work in a corporate environment, I am free of that.
 
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I get pretty stressed out around the holidays for bullshit PTSD reasons but you sound pretty fucking ungrateful, a lot of people don't get gifts or feasts or families. If you think your situation is bullshit, do something for those less fortunate than you. That's the spirit of the season.
 
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It's massively over-corporate, workers get overworked to the point of abuse, and it's a holiday that's forgotten what it's even supposed to be. Jesus's birth? Pagan festival of fertility or rebirth? None of that is represented by a fat man delivering red & green gifts I tell you what. I love the "feel" and aesthetic of Christmas but boy when you outgrow it you really outgrow it and it's sad.
 
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MTN Dew Rat said:
It's massively over-corporate, workers get overworked to the point of abuse, and it's a holiday that's forgotten what it's even supposed to be. Jesus's birth? Pagan festival of fertility or rebirth? None of that is represented by a fat man delivering red & green gifts I tell you what. I love the "feel" and aesthetic of Christmas but boy when you outgrow it you really outgrow it and it's sad.
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It's Saturnalia. Saturnalia was historically the one day a year the masters were supposed to treat their slaves like human beings. By some accounts the masters and slaves would switch places for a day, which served as a moral incentive to treat your slaves reasonably year-round, lest they take it out on you on Saturnalia. But by and large it's just a way for the wealthy and powerful to buy absolution through a once-a-year symbolic gesture so they don't have to feel bad about subjugating and profiting off of others the rest of the year.

That's not what it should be about, but that's the background you're missing.
 
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Nah I agree with you, once you grow out of the presents it really becomes “obligatory dinner with family day #2“ and my family is incredibly boring and dinner is usually eaten in silence with the TV on, I’m not a religious man so all the jesus guilt rings hollow for me. The aestetics are kinda overhyped as well piss yellow string lights, snow men (despite the fact it never snows) and the faded blow mold santa that my neighbors never take down so like maybe it’s just me but seeing a plastic nativity scene completely stripped of paint in the middle of march feels gross, speaking of which afterwards it’s just a long slog of cold gray skies and brown dirt for the next 4 months
 
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OrionBalls said:
Please, do we have to do the whole spending way too much on stupid gifts mostly for people I barely care about, thing?
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Then don't. If you don't even care about them, I don't know why you'd put this façade. If you just don't want to upset them by not buying them stuff, then maybe your relationship with them is toxic.

If you do want to buy, it can be something that isn't expensive but still nice (plushie, comfy Christmas socks, etc). Like are they going to call you cheap for this? That's so rude, then you don't need people like this around you.

You can also gift things that you made, like art and such, but this depends on how materialistic are the other people, and if it's to an undesired degree despite your good intentions, by that point their opinion should not matter.
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And the need for two whole feasts, just because we can't make it to both families in one day?
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This isn't Christmas specific, just planning and managing the timing & the event. Maybe you don't need a whole "feast", again, depends on how materialistic/traditional/block-headed/normie they are.
OrionBalls said:
And then all the work that goes into having a Living Christmas Tree choir concert. That thing doesn't build itself, or put lights on itself that are timed for a musical performance, you know. And everyone agrees it should be done, but the volunteers to make such a thing happen get thinner year after year.
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That's just an event you're doing (I assume you're talking privately?). If people don't have the consideration to help you, yet they demand it, then they're just being apathetic and spoiled.

You're not Scrooge, I'm just doubting the nature of those around you, or the way you people plan things and how stubborn you are about having it in this exact way, when it doesn't need to and still be Christmas like.
 
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OrionBalls said:
the volunteers to make such a thing happen get thinner year after year
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No wonder it sucks. Holidays in general are only good if you and frens spend weeks working and building excitement for them before they happen. If you don't feel like volunteering, you can make something, reorganize something in your life in order to make it festive, or organize some event.
Honestly, this is why I like Halloween so much. It pretty much forces me to prepare for it by going to some hardware store and making a shitty costume beforehand.
 
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