Dog breeds and extinction after collapse

[ambiente]

Many dog breeds have went extinct because the function they were bred for was made obsolete. Like the Dogo Cubano, made to capture runaway slaves, went extinct after slavery was abolished.

What breeds would you preserve after the collapse?

 

[Charred Dinosaur]

These abominations were once food and they shall be again

 

[Fag Alert Major Fag Alert]

That's..... Interesting........

 

[OrionBalls]

German Shorthairs. Damn smart dogs who are loyal, protective, and they'll track, point, and retrieve your delicious pheasants for you.

 

[Shroom King]

Something tells me a lot of pitbulls will get shot on sight the second the power goes out.

 

[Crex Crex]

Breeds? Just get mutts. They have hybrid vigor, compared to purebreds, and live longer.

 

[Gimmighoul]

They have hybrid vigor, compared to purebreds, and live longer.

yes and no. just breeding any two dogs from questionable or unknown sources is begging to pass down problems from both breeds (or mixes thereof), health and otherwise.

if you're mixing breeds: ideally, have a purpose in mind for what you're going for. if the breeds in question have too conflicting of instincts, you're only creating a neurotic mess.
second, trying to guarantee the health of the potential parents. different breeds will have different complications and risks that come from them, so you'll want to know what you're working with.

granted any reputable breeder should be producing dogs from good quality parents anyway.

 

[w4vy_gr4vy]

Fuck doodles and whoever keeps breeding these fuckers just get a fucking poodle

 

[Dawdler]

Smaller dogs will just get eaten by larger ones. Judging by street dogs that form packs, anything goes. Size, breed, whatever. You can see living example in Chernobyl. They are still mixed colored mutts. No small or large dogs. Just mid.

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

Dogs are extremely useful in post end scenarios. The benefits both physically and mentally grow exponentially the better you are at training them. At a high level they do better job securing and protecting your other animals than any human for a fraction of the resources.

 

[Baguette Child]

Based on firsthand experience, the Australian cattledog (please don't confuse with the Australian Shep) is a robust livestock guard breed in a small resource-efficient package. They have stamina for days, are eminently trainable if you start at an appropriate age, consume less food than larger breeds, and have the proper drive to be trusted with rounding and protection tasks even in absence of a handler.


Mine have gone above and beyond to repel predatory threats as large as black bear, often when I was away from home and my herd of goats would have otherwise been vulnerable. I've had several and they've all been healthy, hardy, and easily put on task. Yes; a larger breed would have more combative capacity. But they also require pounds more of feed a week compared to the cattledog, which is a very important concern when I have to potentially supply nutrition for myself and every living animal in my care.

 

[Falcos_Commisar]

Based on firsthand experience, the Australian cattledog (please don't confuse with the Australian Shep) is a robust livestock guard breed in a small resource-efficient package. They have stamina for days, are eminently trainable if you start at an appropriate age, consume less food than larger breeds, and have the proper drive to be trusted with rounding and protection tasks even in absence of a handler.


Mine have gone above and beyond to repel predatory threats as large as black bear, often when I was away from home and my herd of goats would have otherwise been vulnerable. I've had several and they've all been healthy, hardy, and easily put on task. Yes; a larger breed would have more combative capacity. But they also require pounds more of feed a week compared to the cattledog, which is a very important concern when I have to potentially supply nutrition for myself and every living animal in my care.

Yep, blue and red heelers are wonderful dogs

One of Strayas finest inventions

 

[Male Idiot]

Many dog breeds have went extinct because the function they were bred for was made obsolete. Like the Dogo Cubano, made to capture runaway slaves, went extinct after slavery was abolished.

We should ressurrect the based niggohunter dog instead of mammoths.

 

[Agent Abe Caprine]

We should ressurrect the based niggohunter dog instead of mammoths.

According to Wikipedia, the Rhodesian ridgeback is a descendent.

 

[Prokhor Zakharov]

When you say collapse, are we talking collapse of the US? Collapse of western civilization as we know it? Collapse of human civilization? The 7th great extinction cycle?

You have to specify your scope.

 

[BlastMonk]

When you say collapse, are we talking collapse of the US? Collapse of western civilization as we know it? Collapse of human civilization? The 7th great extinction cycle?

You have to specify your scope.

Think OP means the collapse of that dog breed being viable due to insurmountable health issues

 

[Prokhor Zakharov]

Think OP means the collapse of that dog breed being viable due to insurmountable health issues

At that point there is very little that can be done unless someone can find enough unaffected breeding pairs to maintain minimal genetic diversity. If that can't be accomplished, outcrossing is the only thing that can be done and changes to the breed will have to be accepted as part of the genetic stabilization process.

yes and no. just breeding any two dogs from questionable or unknown sources is begging to pass down problems from both breeds (or mixes thereof), health and otherwise.

Your idea is completely wrong. It goes 100% against the concept of hybrid vigorousity, which is a cornerstone of classical genetics and is an extremely well established principle of animal husbandry.

Also, if one was just interested in preserving the concept of "dog" the absolute best picks would be random mutts from across the world, since it would essentially guarantee genetic diversity.

 

[ambiente]

When you say collapse, are we talking collapse of the US? Collapse of western civilization as we know it? Collapse of human civilization? The 7th great extinction cycle?

You have to specify your scope.

Since I say "which dog breed would you preserve?", the collapse I am talking about is something survivable—not an extinction event.

Though now I am wondering, what dog breed would you preserve for each tier of collapse? (USA, Western Civilization, Human Civilization)

 

[Dawdler]

Your idea is completely wrong. It goes 100% against the concept of hybrid vigorousity, which is a cornerstone of classical genetics and is an extremely well established principle of animal husbandry.

Hybrid vigour only works in 1st generation. Next generations are even worse than the parents.

Though now I am wondering, what dog breed would you preserve for each tier of collapse? (USA, Western Civilization, Human Civilization)

Samoyeds, Swiss shephards or Czech wolfdogs
All breeds are very sick today and rely on humans and vets too much.
Wolfdog is healthier than anything else.

 

[Prokhor Zakharov]

Hybrid vigour only works in 1st generation. Next generations are even worse than the parents.

You realize that statement makes no sense. The next generation after the 1st would have the 1st as parents. Given that you would see hybrid vigor in the first hybridization, you can't say "even worse" because the hybrids are better. Did you mean relative to the grandparents? If so, the argument is not that simple. It depends on if one is still outcrossing, backcrossing, etc... Also you have to define the measurements used to determine "worse". It's a complex argument that can't be easily reduced to simple generalities as is usually seen in the first hybrid generation.