Don't be a dick when getting dick - Asking "are you clean?" is the ultimate ick.



Conversations about status and prevention methods are super important - but asking someone if they're "clean" to determine whether or not they're living with HIV is absolutely not the way and is frankly offensive and ignorant. ⁠

Why? ⁠

The first big issue is that it suggests that people living with HIV aren't "clean".​

This wording implies that they're somehow dirty. Not only is that offensive, but it’s also harmful and seriously stigmatising. People in our communities should know better than to do exactly what our queer forebears were fighting against. Stigma keeps people in the shadows and causes even more harm.
The key word in “people living with HIV” is people. They are human beings. Human beings that are affected by a virus which society has let carry far more stigma than almost any other modern health condition.

Framing the question in such a negative light can also discourage other people from getting tested, for fear of finding out that they’re not “clean” anymore - which just results in more and more people not knowing their status. This then leads to more HIV transmissions.

Secondly, it's not even a logical way to go about preventing HIV transmission.​


What does the answer to that question even tell you? If someone says, “Yup”, what does that even mean? That at their last HIV and STI test they tested negative, right?

So, the more important question would be: “Have you tested for HIV and STIs recently?”. That gives you way more to work with.

The next part of the flaw in this logic is - there’s no knowing that the person who says they’re “clean”, hasn’t contracted HIV or another STI since their last test, or tested too close to the window period to have a definitive result. Now, there’s nothing wrong with that - that’s the nature of staying on top of your sexual health: you can only test so often. But clearly asking if someone is “clean” does nothing to protect your own health, it only serves to make others feel awful.

Reminder: The person who is openly living with HIV and on treatment - who would fail your genius “Are you ‘clean’?” method - is not actually able to transmit HIV to you, so is a safer hookup than the person who says “Yup” and last tested over 6 months ago!

The reality is - HIV is most often transmitted by people who don’t know they're living with the virus​

It’s much more important to know your own status and take steps that protect your health than to rely on the words of a potential hookup on Grindr. That’s not to say they’re lying; that's just how testing and window periods work.
We’re not exaggerating when we say that testing is probably the most important thing you can do to protect your health and the health of people you have sex with. This is not just because it lets you know you haven’t contracted anything, but because if you do test positive for HIV or an STI, you can receive care and treatment ASAP and look after your health, while also stopping transmission.
HIV is much more dangerous when someone doesn’t know they've contracted it; not only are they likely to transmit it to others, but their own health will be compromised without treatment.

Condoms just don’t work for me - so that’s why I’ve been asking​


Sure. We know that condoms aren’t the solution for everyone. But there are definitely other options and, as explained earlier, asking if someone’s “clean” is not keeping you safe. So let’s replace it with something useful and not harmful.


If you find you get caught up in the moment a lot, we get it. They’re really hot and you're really horny. You’ve got a hungry hole and they can give you some release. Talking to a health-provider about getting on PrEP would be a great idea for you - then you know that you're protected, no matter how quickly things move.


If you have the time, having solid and non-stigmatising conversations about HIV and STI status is so important. There’s nothing wrong with letting people know when you last tested, and asking the same of others. But the other side of that coin is being comfortable with telling your partners if you test positive for any STI - and not making people feel bad if they do test positive or are living with HIV or any other long term STI like herpes or HPV.


If you are relying on testing as your only form of prevention, you need to be testing regularly, especially if you hook up with new or multiple partners. You also need to be ready to let people know as soon as possible if you test positive for anything (and ask others to do the same).


If you find out someone is living with HIV, have some empathy, but also have some understanding of U=U; people living with HIV who are on treatment and have an undetectable viral load don't pass on HIV sexually. They just don't. Even without condoms. While who you have sex with is your choice, it’s important to know this.

So, what can I say instead?​


Try these alternatives:
"When were you last tested?"
"Do you know your status?"

To sum up:​


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Gay chiming in here. I've always understood clean to mean more "a clean bill of sexual health" vs not dirty. As much as they try to gas light, I'm on PreP and even I won't have sex with an "undetectable positive" guy. Honestly at this point in time there's really no excuse to become infected. Use a condom and/or get on Prep. Sucks you have HIV but I'm not here to coddle you 🤷‍♂️

So much of gay discourse is just someone creating a grand narrative because other people won't fuck them.
 
So I guess the answer is, "no you are not clean" judging by your offense.

Glad some faggots still care about getting STD's at least and aren't all into the wanting to get "the gift".
This is actually a growing problem in the gay community. I have a few gay friends and they said lots of gays, especially younger guys, think that all they need is PreP to be safe and that getting AIDs isn't even a big deal anymore since people are living to old age with it. A few months ago I saw some 18 year old gay kid trending because he was diagnosed with HIV and it was awful how the main stream media was gassing him up and really downplaying that this kid is stuck with a life long illness.

It's scary to see this push for downplaying STDs and worse that people are falling for it.
 
This website is cringe af, they also have message generator you can use to inform your partner that your front-hole tested positive for gonorrhea. No, seriously, they call it front-hole unironically.

Hello CoolFool,
I need to tell you something. Don’t worry, I haven’t got feelings haha.
I wanted to let you know that I’ve just found out I’ve got front-hole chlamydia.
Which means you should get tested.
Because the sooner you get tested the sooner we can get back to it. 😉

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