Doomworld - AKA Troonworld, a dedicated safe space for pedophiles and megalomaniacs - Corrupting the Doom community since 2016

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NeonFlux said:
Obscure/niche hobby communities (but also video games in general) get filled with busy bodies/freaks as they age.

So many childless losers want to be "in charge" even if they end up fucking up the whole scene.

Normal people come and go from hobbies/interests like many past doom wad creators, but losers cluster and infest because they have nothing in life.
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Oh yeah, as someone who used to belong in the toy community, I've seen how the older folks are the ones acting all high and mighty (faggots) like only their opinions should matter. The true definition of man-babies who can't accept the fact that there are other people who have different tastes and prefer the pointless drama.

In the case of Doom, a lot of people have moved on from Doom modding due to personal reasons while there are some people who really take Doom mapping/modding so seriously but are so fucked up in the head at the same time that they end up doing stupid stuff online and otherwise.
 
Moist Boys said:
Tell me like I'm stupid. I just like playing DOOM wads recommended on Youtube. Why is there this much fuckery, faggotry, and autism to get good DOOM gameplay to the end consumer?
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Drama-fueling is easier than being creative and it's addicting. Human brain is naturally wired to attract more attention to negative things than positive. For most people, it's difficult to control themselves, so they derail and nothing creative is getting done.

This applies to everything, not just Doom mapping obviously.
 
NeonFlux said:
I remember @Dull Pencil burnt out at the end of the 2nd KF community project, but with the explosion of AI vibe coding, how possible is it automate all the tedious bullshit Dull Pencil had to do for the next project, if it ever releases?
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Even though the explanations for Zscript are pretty shit for anyone who's not a coder, the biggest problem is usually not the code. With some rare exceptions you can get by, unless you want to make a total conversion, and that's not what we are doing.

The bigger time sink is actually managing all the custom assets. Either you get a huge file with thousands of lines of code or you dived stuff into tons of files. Either option makes overview really hard. For ingame scripting you have no choice and everything is in a single file(unless you precompile but that makes changing stuff tedious).
And everything needs its own custom syntax. Sounds, 3d objects, lights, things, animation etc. is all different to each other. And if you want it to work in the map editor you also have to define it for that too.
And then you have have all the graphics and maps and what else in there that must be in its specific spot.

So unless AI can manage the whole pak file, it won't help much I think. For KF2 I asked Bing for a script to do something. I got pseudo code and a call to a script that didn't exist since it couldn't find any examples except for other people bitching about the same problem.
 
Dull Pencil said:
So unless AI can manage the whole pak file, it won't help much I think.
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I'm going to be :optimistic: and say it'll happen some day, given how much progress vibe coding has made in the gaming industry this past couple of years, but not anytime soon for doom given how many faggots are in the nu-doom community.
 
This is just a hypothetical question because I'm curious about the opinions of all of you kiwi doom fans.

If you still had Doomworld accounts and you hated the site (but you didn't have a sour reputation because you kept your mouth shut), would you still upload your wads to that site or nah? Just to get some additional exposure.

So, in other words, you only used Doomworld as a dumping ground for your wads/mods/midis etc...

And if not, where would you guys post your finished work then? Moddb, Itch.io...?
 
Untermensch Doom Janny said:
This is just a hypothetical question because I'm curious about the opinions of all of you kiwi doom fans.

If you still had Doomworld accounts and you hated the site (but you didn't have a sour reputation because you kept your mouth shut), would you still upload your wads to that site or nah? Just to get some additional exposure.

So, in other words, you only used Doomworld as a dumping ground for your wads/mods/midis etc...

And if not, where would you guys post your finished work then? Moddb, Itch.io...?
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I wasn't banned by Troonworld. Regardless, I won't upload them in that totalitarian site unless I'm so desperate for attention. There are other platforms where someone's work can be recognized like the aforementioned sites.
 
Untermensch Doom Janny said:
If you still had Doomworld accounts and you hated the site (but you didn't have a sour reputation because you kept your mouth shut), would you still upload your wads to that site or nah? Just to get some additional exposure.
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Personally I say "why not?" as long as you keep the expectations low in that the public reception you receive will be generally shallow (because they don't want to be banned for mean words). While it's a funny thought, I'm not such an extremist that I believe every Doomworld user is terrible and doesn't deserve to be hyperlinked my levels. Main problem with Doomworld is in it's delusional power hungry moderators, old heads that haven't contributed anything of use in over a decade and take up space, and the post Covid tranny problem. *Generally* the less active users and/or ones who keep to themselves don't contribute to this problem in the same way (which is still a fair number) and they'd be the ones I want to play my maps.

All that being said, don't ever expect to win any "Cacowards" unless you've secured a spot in the KKKlub or comfortably fellated them. Though you'll probably live not having to see a paragraph of faggoty stapled onto your username.
 
As a final note, I think the best course of action is always posting it on multiple sites and platforms that you are comfortable with. I may have defended DW a bit, but they absolutely should not hold the monopoly on user created material. In a hypothetical scenario you wanted to post a map (at least for playtesting), Zacharin's new site would be a perfect place as well (admittedly a bit biased here).
 
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Untermensch Doom Janny said:
If you still had Doomworld accounts and you hated the site (but you didn't have a sour reputation because you kept your mouth shut), would you still upload your wads to that site or nah? Just to get some additional exposure.
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Thats the funny thing about my Doomworld ban, it was issued as a warning that just never gets wiped away and never forgiven by the admins. The official reason was for "Edgelording" and "House Cleaning." Its just a forever timeout because some faggot couldn't handle it when I opposed the offsite behavior policy. The irony of the ban is not lost on me either, because it was for a post I made on DB.

I thought about starting an account to just dump wads but I don't really care enough to subject myself to that site on a more regular basis. My life is better when I don't have to interact with it.
 
Untermensch Doom Janny said:
And if not, where would you guys post your finished work then? Moddb, Itch.io...?
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Pretty much any known mod site that is (mostly) neutral. Moddb, the idgames archive site, and the Wad Archive (which hosts all of the controversial wads as well) are the ones I can think of right away, though there may be more options, including on Doom forums as here. Publishing wads in personal circles as any other personal project may function as good word-of-mouth and more publicity if those circles publish gameplay and/or mod showcase videos.

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These are some opportunities I would use to get it across, despite me personally not caring if my wads get attention. They are projects I make because of the entire creative aspect using a great game as a basis. If anyone cares for these and wants to give me feedback I will more than gladly take my time to listen to it and respond. Speaking of I currently am making a vanilla Doom 1 map which I will share on here once it is finished. It is based upon an unfinished Doom 1 map of the same concept but different from execution. See you soon!
 
Untermensch Doom Janny said:
If you still had Doomworld accounts and you hated the site (but you didn't have a sour reputation because you kept your mouth shut), would you still upload your wads to that site or nah? Just to get some additional exposure.
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Not really, but then I'm also not a prolific mapper who constantly releases new stuff, possibly drawing some energy from the perceived fame.

I do have my semi-silent sock accounts for the occasional download of an attachment that isn't accessible to non-members, or dropping someone a DM regarding their project, or asking a question I couldn't find an answer to, but I definitely wouldn't use any other than my original (permabanned and feared across the trooncom) user name for publishing, so this would naturally exclude uploading to DW/ZDF.
 
Time to stir up some old Doom shit again! It is short, because I have found out DG999 is currently building (or at least attempted) a ProBoards forum himself. He also confirms on its front page quote that he, in fact, was Becky all along, but I do not believe he will be back. DG999 has no place to go to, he is not welcomed by anybody, even by his own likes, and the whole Becky debacle should be the final nail in the coffin for any trust and time that he may still receive from people. You can visit the in-maintenance crapshoot here to get a visualization. Back to mapping for me.


EDIT: His Becky profile spammed the link to the forum, probably confirming my theory in the failing development hell of his own forum. Surprisingly he was banned as well...
 
chuck_donut said:
Time to stir up some old Doom shit again! It is short, because I have found out DG999 is currently building (or at least attempted) a ProBoards forum himself. He also confirms on its front page quote that he, in fact, was Becky all along, but I do not believe he will be back. DG999 has no place to go to, he is not welcomed by anybody, even by his own likes, and the whole Becky debacle should be the final nail in the coffin for any trust and time that he may still receive from people. You can visit the in-maintenance crapshoot here to get a visualization. Back to mapping for me.


EDIT: His Becky profile spammed the link to the forum, probably confirming my theory in the failing development hell of his own forum. Surprisingly he was banned as well...
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It's funny that he claims to have a project yet doesn't have any proof of it other than the words "WIP." I'm glad he's being mocked by the goons that he allowed to post in his own forum.
 
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I like how he twists his words and says "I'm only interested in talking about Doom", but his political rants from last year forced half of his user base to quit. He's not the police, so he can't do anything about weirdos on his forum? He frames it like someone asked him to arrest and prosecute OniriA. When your user base has a problem with someone with a disturbing history, as an admin, what is the best course of action? To lift your hands in the air and do nothing? This is how he lets parasites spam and shit all over his site, despite everyone being annoyed and telling him to take action to keep the forum in good shape. Nope! He can't do anything about it, because "he's very limited as the admin of the fucking forum".
 
I was away for a month and:
  • Zach got his own forum since PoonerBoards is lame and 40oz is a faggot
  • In-thread slap fights and accusation of gayops
  • Oleg / IKOL / Tainted Slav being a fat retard again

Untermensch Doom Janny said:
If you still had Doomworld accounts and you hated the site (but you didn't have a sour reputation because you kept your mouth shut), would you still upload your wads to that site or nah? Just to get some additional exposure.
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As someone who never had an account there I'll give a hypothetical answer. I would postpone my upload by some time. Perhaps a week or so.
 
"I just wanna yap bout Doom and shiet but dat admin pussy kinda dry gng. My days bro it is what it is,. Ima just run the forum and stuff don't got no pigs behind me to do nuthin' except banning terrible, terrible xenophiles. Support my Indian GOATS from da brown hoods my G!!" - 40iq

Can not believe that I feel terrible for IDL, but he was the only honest and level-headed person in that whole discussion. Besides ToD and Doom Central (depending if Tangra has you in his own KKK or finds you useful) there is literally no other forum to use, with the exception being the great thread on here, though as with many community members IDL seems to be not a fan of the humble Kiwi. A smaller community will always be a better community, that is the moral to be learned here. No wonder friend circles are the better place for exchanges.
 
Wright said:
This has to be the first forum I've been banned from for registering on it
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Who tf is Becky??? :story:

I'm serious about this gang, I might get burnt out, but I think with some smart planning and doing a lot of the grunt work myself, I wanted to get a more put together KF IWAD sort of thing together. I could use a SLADE wizard's help, but I have experience with mapping and ZScript, and made one of the sharty doom WADs... I've been itching to work on a project again, having long since abandoned ZDF and DB... haven't even touched ToD, seems like diminishing returns. Fuck it, I like the idea of doing that stuff here. For the lulz. What I need to know first, even hypothetically to get a sense of how realistic this is, let's say there's like 3 to 5 episodes (depending, flex for burnout/turnout) and there's like... 7 to 12 levels in each episode. If there was a miniboss in the middle and a boss at the end of each episode, and they were all lolcows, who would you pick? I am a work backwards sort of guy, so I say that whatever the final episode would be, the miniboss would be Null, and the final boss would be Chris, obviously. Who else? I have tons of names and ideas but I don't want to hog the idea space. What ya'll think? Right now, treat it as a thought experiment...
 
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