Culture Elon Musk and the Tech Bro Obsession With 'Free Speech' - Neolibs unironically try to use the "Founding Fathers never predicted automatic weapons" argument on the 1st Amendment

https://time.com/6171183/elon-musk-...al&utm_term=ideas_technology&linkId=162998031
https://archive.ph/jaPt2

They say that something is worth what someone will pay for it.

If that’s true, then protecting “free speech,” which Elon Musk has cited as a central reason he agreed to buy Twitter for $44 billion this week, may be worth twice as much as solving America’s homelessness problem, and seven times as much as solving world hunger. It’s worth more (to him, at least) than educating every child in nearly 50 countries, more than the GDP of Serbia, Jordan, or Paraguay.

In the days since Musk agreed to terms on a deal to take Twitter private, nearly all of Musk’s tweets have been about freedom and censorship on the platform. Like: “By ‘free speech,’ I simply mean that which matches the law. I am against censorship that goes far beyond the law.” Or: “Truth Social (terrible name) exists because Twitter censored free speech.” And: “the extreme antibody reaction from those who fear free speech says it all.”

Why does Musk care so much about this? Why would a guy who has pushed the boundaries of electric-vehicle manufacturing and plumbed the limits of commercial space flight care about who can say what on Twitter?

“Freedom of speech” has become a paramount concern of the techno-moral universe. The issue has anchored nearly every digital media debate for the last two years, from the dustup over Joe Rogan at Spotify to vaccine misinformation on Facebook. Meta founder Mark Zuckerberg gave a major speech at Georgetown in 2019 about the importance of “free expression” and has consistently relied on the theme when explaining why Facebook has struggled to curb disinformation on the platform.

“It does seem to be a dominant obsession with the most elite, the most driven Elon Musks of the world,” says Fred Turner, professor of communication at Stanford University and author of several books about Silicon Valley culture, who argues that “free speech seems to be much more of an obsession among men.” Turner says the drive to harness and define the culture around online speech is related to “the entrepreneurial push: I did it in business, I did it in space, and now I’m going to do it in the world.”

Business itself may be part of the motivation. Many of the most valuable digital platforms have business models that rely on mining user content for data and selling it to advertisers. From the platform’s perspective, more speech equals more cash.
But “free speech” in the 21st century means something very different than it did in the 18th, when the Founders enshrined it in the Constitution. The right to say what you want without being imprisoned is not the same as the right to broadcast disinformation to millions of people on a corporate platform. This nuance seems to be lost on some techno-wizards who see any restriction as the enemy of innovation.

In a culture that places a premium on achieving the impossible, some tech titans may also see the liberal consensus on acceptable speech as yet another boundary to break. In Silicon Valley, bucking the liberal conventions about harmful speech can seem like the maverick move.
“Contrarianism is a big part of this free speech thing. If the left says, ‘I can’t do XYZ,’ that makes a lot of people want to do it more,” says Peter Hamby, host of Good Luck America on Snap and writer at Puck News. “Contrarianism, whether it’s embodied by Elon Musk or Andrew Yang or Bernie Sanders or Joe Rogan, becomes this ideology in itself.”
Jason Goldman, who was on the founding team at Twitter and served on the company’s board from 2007 to 2010 before joining the Obama Administration, says the tech rhetoric around free speech has become an obsession of the mostly white, male members of the tech elite, who made their billions in the decades before a rapidly diversifying workforce changed the culture at many of the biggest companies in Silicon Valley.
They “would rather go back to the way things were,” Goldman says, “and are couching that in terms of ‘free speech’ or ‘we’re not going to allow politics to be part of the conversation.'”

Goldman says it’s “naive” to believe that Musk can throw out Twitter’s guardrails without degrading the platform. “To say you’re just going to allow for any type of abuse or harassment,” he says, “is an inherently anti-speech position, because you’re going to drive out a set of users who would use your product but no longer feel safe.”
Tech titans often have a different understanding of speech than the rest of the world because most trained as engineers, not as writers or readers, and a lack of a humanities education might make them less attuned to the social and political nuances of speech.
“Tech culture is grounded in engineering culture, which imagines itself as apolitical,” says Turner. Engineers, he adds, often see the world in terms of problems and solutions, and in that context, speech becomes a series of data points that get circulated through a data system, rather than expressions of social or political ideas.
Focusing on “free speech,” as a way to justify relaxing restrictions on the platform, he says, is just “an engineering solution to a political problem.”
Whether it’s an engineering problem or a political one, it’s Elon Musks’s problem now.

But “free speech” in the 21st century means something very different than it did in the 18th, when the Founders enshrined it in the Constitution. The right to say what you want without being imprisoned is not the same as the right to broadcast disinformation to millions of people on a corporate platform.

The only thing that changed is the speed of common discourse which the elite view as a threat.
 
Those who determine what is "disinformation" are the same people who told you that Saddam had WMDs, that Trump colluded with Russia, that Covid came from a wet market, and that Hunter Biden's laptop was a Russian hoax.

Recall that DHS has declared it terrorism to criticize the government or reveal its dirty laundry:

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Any entity that has to suppress information and police thought to maintain its legitimacy... is not legitimate. If it can be destroyed by the truth, then it deserves to be destroyed by the truth.
 
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Lying is free speech..... outside of VERY VERY unique circumstances, you, the citizen, are under no obligation to tell the truth. (Sworn testimony in court, legal contracts/disclosures, retail pricing)

This idea that only 100% factual statements are protected is hogwash. That's EXACTLY the nice-sounding trap dictators use to send people to the gulag for "spreading disinformation" about how the state sends people to the gulag for no good reason.

We can sit here and argue about what "disinformation" is till the cows come home, end of the day? It doesn't matter, it's just as valid as whatever Great Truth (tm) you were planning on speaking (probably that there are more than 2 genders, choke on that irony, sweaty)
 
This needs to be challenged, every sentence should be deconstructed, like these modern day Stalinists like to do, because of course "free speech" means exactly what it meant in the 18th century. It's definitions have not changed. They make misleading statements and assumptions that are not accepted by the majority by either First Amendment scholars or the general public. This article is a masterpiece of misinformation, the very thing Orwell warned against. This is a poorly written attempt to get the public to accept their definition of free speech, which is not supported by any evidence, because there is none.

Not a single article like this was written about Bezos buying WaPo because he's onboard with this agenda, but as soon as Elon Musk says he's making Twatter a free speech platform, suddenly free speech is problematic. They are so transparently partisan it would be funny if this assault on free speech wasn't so serious, with the Democrats creating their very own KGB DGB.
 
“Contrarianism is a big part of this free speech thing. If the left says, ‘I can’t do XYZ,’ that makes a lot of people want to do it more,” says Peter Hamby, host of Good Luck America on Snap and writer at Puck News. “Contrarianism, whether it’s embodied by Elon Musk or Andrew Yang or Bernie Sanders or Joe Rogan, becomes this ideology in itself.”
Good god these people are obnoxiously stupid to the point they can't seem to fathom how anyone could just genuinely disagree with them.
 

It's funny when you know that the founders were all very well educated men for their age and they knew that mankind had already evolved militarily from using the bow and arrow to the musket using gunpowder; same with cannons coming onto the scene to break down strong castle walls as opposed to the trebuchet.

Any man with any level of understanding of the times would've known that we would eventually produce weapons even better than muskets and cannons. And so the 2nd Amendment just stands as it does encompassing all weaponry we have at our disposal.
 
Good god these people are obnoxiously stupid to the point they can't seem to fathom how anyone could just genuinely disagree with them.

I think it's more that they know their viewpoints are flawed but they hold them because of emotional reasons, and would rather silence anyone who challenges them rather than have to question and re-examine them rationally.
 
Repeating firearms existed in the 1700s with various countries attempting to figure out viable designs.
One of the cheapest designs was invented by an American named Joseph Chambers in the late 1700s and he made an anti-infantry multi barreled swivel deck gun holding between 175 to 225 rounds depending on the size, the early US military bought them and they were used in the War of 1812.
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These guns were also used on land in fortifications and available to anyone commercially.
Not only did the Founding Fathers have a concept of an automatic weapon, they were paying Americans to figure out how to design them.
 
If that’s true, then protecting “free speech,” which Elon Musk has cited as a central reason he agreed to buy Twitter for $44 billion this week, may be worth twice as much as solving America’s homelessness problem, and seven times as much as solving world hunger. It’s worth more (to him, at least) than educating every child in nearly 50 countries, more than the GDP of Serbia, Jordan, or Paraguay.
They say “Elon could solve X with his Twatter money” like any of their billionaires would ever fork over the cash to do it.

Either put up the money or stop bitching about your hug box being under new management.
 
It's pretty clear what's happening. Political imprisonment and executions are right around the corner, anyone the left deems a threat to their "Our Democracy™" will be dealt with, so everyone better start dying their hair purple and sucking the girldick. I predict it will begin in a few years, less than 10 certainly.
 
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