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An introduction thread. Three pages in three months. 50 people. Two are banned. One is self deleted. Another muted (mutes are a lesser ban) for advocating for violence.

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Discussion of Ashley Rabbit. They have been discussing the semantics of a polite question. Personal theory these multi-paragraph long debates of nonsense are attempts to corner each other in gotchas to be banned. Why else would they care so much!?

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I confess to some cognitive dissonance. I still follow KO's political discussions and still largely agree with them on many things. There's a lot I'm concerned about when it comes to the incoming return of the orange pig's iron-fisted rule--especially now with his new technofeudalist buddies along for the ride this time and eyeing up neighboring territories as part of some expansionist fantasy--but seeing these fuckers panic over it is still giving me a sense of schadenfreude.

Like, here's the thing...

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On the one hand, I want to say "serves you right". I see some uppity troon say things like "everything we've worked for is falling apart" or "we'd made so much progress and now we're losing ground to the right again". I just want to say, "Good. You deserve to be scared, and to see your work fall apart. You ought to feel helpless and like you don't know what to do. You insufferable condescending fucks brought this on yourselves by strutting invincibly about for so long, and it's about time you know what it's like to be on the other end of the equation."

But the thing is, I'm far-left myself, and seeing them complain about how "we had the right wing on the ropes and they were dying"--as much as I smirk at hearing them say it, on the other hand, I agree with the statement itself. When you still see righties namedropping Anita Sarkeesian in >current year 2025 like in the Pendulum Swing thread...
Rich jew realizes progressivism is no longer profitable, tries to heel turn to save face, more news at 11.

Im quite afraid of a pendulum swing to be honest, things will not change in the grand scheme of things but the right will start becoming like neocons again defending corpos and puritanism. Im actually happy with Anita sarkeesian and biden, I don't want a jack thompson and dubya again, it will just make me and other sensible right wingers look bad. People gotta understand quick that it's them against the state and corpos, not this wishy washy tug of war.
... it really does feel like the only reason the right didn't die off with the boomers at the end of post-9/11 jingoism is because a bunch of maladjusted Gen Xers are still sharting all over their basement carpets due to some sneering dyke cunts turning up their noises at "glorious vidya" 11 years ago. The turn of the 2010s (the time period around Obama's first term) saw some real progress from the bullshit that came prior, which I was grateful to see at the time. Then the mid-2010s saw it all come to a screeching halt and now it feels like it's all been completely wiped out. Posters in that thread are saying the world is healing now, and it's like, no, the world was healing back then, and we've just been slowly tearing open the wound again since like 2015. And with a post in another KO thread about the whole "revenge of the nerds/gamers rise up" farce...

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Again, just the text alone divorced from any context, I agree. There is a demographic of balding middle-aged losers yearning for their early-2000s glory days where they could be all sorts of unpleasant little snotgoblins in their "sekret interwebz club" gaming forums in between bouts of jacking it to porn DVDs on their dorm room's PS2. I said as much just last page.

But these fuckers don't get to be the ones to say that, because they're part of the problem. They're part of that same "revenge of the nerds" demographic and are trying to act like they aren't. They're trying to absolve themselves of having ever been part of it because they're pussy-whipped over all those womyn screeching at them a decade ago, the only problem is that their idea of "self-growth" is hopping across the political aisle and putting on the most insufferable display of this fae-plural-diaper-kin-gender-fur bullshit that only serves to make life harder for an actual left-winger like myself because of how much it makes normal people want to punch us left-wingers in the face.

I wholly disown them and part of me is angry at myself for enjoying their panic over things I'm worried about too. I dislike this imperialist "we should buy Greenland and Canada and rename the Gulf of Mexico to the Gulf of Trumpistan America" bullshit, I dread the impending further gutting of safety agencies like the FDA, CDC, or OSHA considering the increased prevalence of disease and safety hazards since the pig was last in office gutting those things, and I'm in disbelief at all these red-hat idiots who are suddenly outraged at Elon's H1B schemes because "our vote was red as a vote for the American worker!" when a red vote--the vote for fiscal deregulation and union-busting--is only ever for the American oligarch and the actual worker's vote is the blue one.

But the thing is, I hate these degenerate wokescolds that much that I can't help but feel some bitter amusement as everything goes to shit around us all, and I understand why the right is making a resurgence because other people hate them and vote against the interests of the common man to spite them.

I just wish things hadn't gotten to this point. I want to know how to tear these sanctimonious fucks out of my political wing and put them back where they used to be, with the Jack Thompsons and other puritanical conservatives of the world.
 
On the one hand, I want to say "serves you right". I see some uppity troon say things like "everything we've worked for is falling apart" or "we'd made so much progress and now we're losing ground to the right again". I just want to say, "Good. You deserve to be scared, and to see your work fall apart. You ought to feel helpless and like you don't know what to do. You insufferable condescending fucks brought this on yourselves by strutting invincibly about for so long, and it's about time you know what it's like to be on the other end of the equation."

But the thing is, I'm far-left myself, and seeing them complain about how "we had the right wing on the ropes and they were dying"--as much as I smirk at hearing them say it, on the other hand, I agree with the statement itself.
The whole idea that they ever had "the right wing on the ropes" is farcical though. The Democrats aren't a left-wing party and never will be, it's a party of centrist, opportunistic Neoliberals who have absolutely no issue with Trump taking the helm again. Their entire spiel about "democracy being at stake" was all just for show so that the American voter-cattle keeps them in business and ensures their paychecks. Keep the pendulum swinging left and right, keep issues such as Roe v. Wade alive, to ensure that they'll always have funding for years to come.

There was a time before 2022 where I was generally in agreement with Knockout's political takes, and only really took issue with their increasingly dumb stance on word policing and gender bullshit. Generally speaking, I think they are right about Musk and Trump supporters being morons, for instance! However, after the Ukraine war started, the veil was lifted from my eyes as I suddenly saw the exact same people, who a few months prior would say things such as "one bad apple spoils the bunch", suddenly start whitewashing and celebrating Azov Nazis. How could such cognitive dissonance come to be?

With the Gaza conflict that followed, and Knockout's strict opposition to Israel, I started to understand their worldview -- they generally mean well, they think they are on the side fighting for good, but are incredibly, incredibly naive and gullible. They have completely swallowed the Western-Neoliberal narrative on most topics about the "rules-based order" -- namely that the West is the most progressive and LGBTQ-friendly part of the world, and therefore must be defended at all cost. They genuinely believe that the Democrats and the EU are morally good parties that always support human rights, gender equality, trans acceptance, and such. But when Germany unconditionally supports bombing the fuck out of Palestine, Kamala cheers and smiles as she hands the keys to the kingdom to Trump, or Facebook suddenly does a heel-turn and allows users to call trannies retarded -- that's when their entire worldview falls apart and they are left scared, frightened and confused.

That's how such statements as "it feels like everything we've worked for is falling apart" come to be. It was all an illusion that they wholeheartedly, genuinely believed in. They didn't work towards anything -- the rich and powerful let their kind have a day in the sun, and now that they've become inconvenient, they're getting shoved back in the drawer.

Their reaction to Trump's recent statements, and the calls for the EU to take legal action against Musk are equally as indicative of their lack of understanding about how the world really works. Musk IS capital. He's the richest man in the world, working for the most powerful man in the Western world. He's basically untouchable, and calling him a "loser" isn't going to change that fact. Furthermore, Europe has whored itself out to the United States for the past 4 years under Biden's regime, turned themselves into servile vassals through LNG transports, with two more countries joining the extortion racket known as "NATO". They can't push back against Trump, as much as they'd like, and we're seeing the symptoms of that develop in real-time.

There were several Knockout threads where they cheered on the exact steps the United States was taking to ensure complete subjugation of the European Union. Now Trump's back, and he's fully exploiting the groundwork that Biden set up for him. Eurocucks, especially the ones on Knockout, get fucked, you did this to yourself.
 
He was given a mute for 22 hours for this by the way.

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His "alters" are purple fat fetish Nintendo/furry women OCs with no difference in personality and change depending on how his porn addicted brain wants to wank (or the struggle to wank) to. It's a bit of a laugh that he thinks he can finger wag at anyone because he only has interest in defending his creep troon wife and their clique. Posts like this are a bloody laugh when you recall he's LARPing a fetish and thinks that troon paedophiles are stunning and brave while attacking their victims until they leave the internet.

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But these fuckers don't get to be the ones to say that, because they're part of the problem. They're part of that same "revenge of the nerds" demographic and are trying to act like they aren't.
Whole post is bang-on if not a bit directionbrained. The website has become a cognitohazard for people of all class and status. Even if you want to hang out with like-minded people on the 'left', these people ain't it.

There is no meaningful political discourse. It's all different shades of liberal idpol with the occasional marxist larper who is quick to point out that fellow working class demographic groups are actually evil and bigoted and not worth the time. They are entirely preoccupied with the exact same headlines mainstream media generate to further enflame the culture war. It's as engaging as it is frustrating to watch them look down on other communities and figures and behave above it all, yet fall into the same inconsolable rage when Meta makes a minute policy change, or Musk comments 'interesting' on some ragebait.
It's at least funny to see them pearl clutch about the longest lasting, least efficient supposed genocide of the trans community, when their real problems are grassroots in nature and, more often, personal and self-inflicted.

I have enough Facepunch/Knockout in my history that my stake is personal enough to not laugh, but feel geniuenly dismayed over some other elements of the community. It's all fun and games to see impotent trans rage, to see divisive identity politics managing to - surprise surprise - divide them further.
What isn't funny is the 10 page DID larping thread. It's not funny seeing people feel so comfortable dismissing the most polite resistance to their ideas as bigotry or ignorance. It's not funny seeing a community that I know once had some impact on me, appear totally and disconnected from reality. They threw out integrity, shot their own growth in the foot, and cemented a community of perverted sycophants all so they could spend time entertaining the delusions of someone who goons in VRChat for too long out of the day. (Don't forget to donate!)

You get the impression anyone there could hit rock bottom again and again, but instead of finding release in self-improvement and self-reflection, they run back to the same insane website, dominated by the same 8-12 person trans polycule that tells them the same thing again and again: 'It's not you that's wrong. It's the world.' All the while talking each other down from a suicidal spiral caused by self-inflicted hormonal imbalances.
 
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god it just keeps getting worse. Every time I check in on how KO is doing I think hmm maybe this time they'll have had a moment of reflection and stopped enabling these obviously very mentally unwell people. and every time it has only gotten worse. I'm genuinely surprised that it's still alive at this point; it seems the only new users it gets are more schizos enticed by its reputation as a safe space for the deranged. Soon enough that's all the userbase will be, or is it already?

@Frankoid

You've perfectly summed up my feelings on it too, but I was actually glad to be rid of the place. It was obvious there was no nuanced discussion to be had. No fun to be had. The members I used to have good interactions with were pretty much all gone, replaced by terminally online shut-ins who learned everything they know about the world from reddit and their own forum. It was a joyless place. And that was a long time ago. But it definitely had an effect on me, evidenced by the fact I occasionally check in on its shambling corpse. It really is a shame it ended up the way it did but that's what life's about sometimes, moving on. I just wish they would too.
 
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From the experience of some people I know, this is somewhat common in decrepit American small towns when sudden unexpected expenses (new landlord or theft or whatever) occur.

But most people just resolve that by selling something expensive since they can buy it again later anyway after it blows over
 
From the experience of some people I know, this is somewhat common in decrepit American small towns when sudden unexpected expenses (new landlord or theft or whatever) occur.

But most people just resolve that by selling something expensive since they can buy it again later anyway after it blows over
They could sell the 4090 easily for $2000, then buy the 4070 for $500 and have $1500 left over and still play games better than most people. But God forbid a knockout troon has to be responsible for their finances.
 
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I am here to destroy the binary model of sex to fit in with my new transgender worldview. I propose that instead of two distinct categories of sex responsible for different functions of reproduction, there are actually two distinct categories of sex responsible for different functions of reproduction.
 
I LOVE this so much. It really showcases the idiocy behind the movement. The only reason to replace a secifically defined term to be more ambiguous is to confuse society, muddle the conversation. Can't win the argument straight up, so obfuscate the terms.
 
He was given a mute for 22 hours for this by the way.

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Throughout this retard's entire history on KO, they've been consistently let off easy on shit that would net non-troon clique users a several week ban

I remember reading a mod say "oh they're just having another mental health episode teehee" like that excuse would work for anyone normal

between that and caring about ratings, remember when facepunch would ban people for this kind of stupid shit? i didn't see it then, but I understand why Garry desperately wanted his name off the forum
 
Throughout this retard's entire history on KO, they've been consistently let off easy on shit that would net non-troon clique users a several week ban

I remember reading a mod say "oh they're just having another mental health episode teehee" like that excuse would work for anyone normal

between that and caring about ratings, remember when facepunch would ban people for this kind of stupid shit? i didn't see it then, but I understand why Garry desperately wanted his name off the forum
He's notorious for harassing people and threatening when he or his troonwife don't get their way and I reckon he blames it on one of his many purple coloured headmates. The mods probably don't want a troon revolt lead by this bellowing retard so they handle him and others with kid gloves.
 
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