Fallacy Fags - You insulted me therefore you're wrong

[AnOminous]

One of the euphoric methods Internet intellectuals use in arguing is to point out fallacies in the other guy's arguments. I'm assuming it's a guy because there are no girls on the Internet.

Now, a fallacy is simply an unsound argument, with one or more logical lacunae in its formation. It's entirely appropriate when debating to point out such profound gaps in reasoning when one's opponent is guilty of them.

However, Internet arguments don't rise to the level where you can criticize bullshit like this. You're not arguing about the fucking Sistine Chapel ceiling, you're arguing about some retarded shit.

The specific Internet fallacy I'm talking about is where some moron points out some fallacy, sometimes using a Latin name for it, and then claims victory, because pointing out that some particular fallacious argument in favor of something they don't like UTTERLY PROVES the ABSOLUTE OPPOSITE of the fallacious argument.

Checkmate atheists!

ETA also by "intellectuals" I mean "mongoloids."

 

[Ruin]

So a fallacy within a fallacy? That's like what sixteen fallacies?

 

[Assorted Nuts]

I think the misuse of ad hominem is the one that gets me the most. It's not supposed to be when someone insults you during an argument, it's when their insult IS the argument. If I finish an argument and then call you an asshole that doesn't dismiss the actual argument.

 

[MarvinTheParanoidAndroid]

I think the misuse of ad hominem is the one that gets me the most. It's not supposed to be when someone insults you during an argument, it's when their insult IS the argument. If I finish an argument and then call you an asshole that doesn't dismiss the actual argument.

It's even worse the further you spread out from the more popularly known fallacies, because people generally have even worse of a misconception of what those are & treat them like buzzwords, throwing out whatever random fallacy could even be tangentially related if you squint hard enough.

 

[Locksnap]

Was this your school essay or something? You didn't even pose a fucking question.

 

[DuskEngine]

the rhetorical mode of argument is my favourite lolcow

 

[RockVolnutt]

I think my favorite thing is the idea that a fallacy makes everything invalid. It screws with people when you point out that's a fallacy itself.

 

[BILLY MAYS]

OP is a faggot.

 

[ADN_VIII]

The only fallacy I'll get worked up about is when someone strawmans or misrepresents my argument or position. I always try to have discussions and debate on the foundation of honest discourse. I won't work myself into a tizzy over it, but I will leave the discussion if it continues after a few warnings.

 

[Feline Darkmage]

The only fallacy I'll get worked up about is when someone strawmans or misrepresents my argument or position. I always try to have discussions and debate on the foundation of honest discourse. I won't work myself into a tizzy over it, but I will leave the discussion if it continues after a few warnings.

Strawmen are the worst.

But don't even get me started on the people who claim that you were strawmanning them when you were repeating the literal definition of the words/arguments they were using. I think that's called a Strawcrow.

 

[ADN_VIII]

Strawmen are the worst.

But don't even get me started on the people who claim that you were strawmanning them when you were repeating the literal definition of the words/arguments they were using. I think that's called a Strawcrow.

I have a personal lolcow who likes to claim my breakdowns of his strawmans of my positions are strawmans of what he's saying and thus fallacious.

 

[Tragi-Chan]

That being said, it is fun to accuse someone of invoking Godwin's Law in any discussion about the Second World War.

 

[Steve Mayers]

I think the misuse of ad hominem is the one that gets me the most. It's not supposed to be when someone insults you during an argument, it's when their insult IS the argument. If I finish an argument and then call you an asshole that doesn't dismiss the actual argument.

So every Facebook comment section war?

 

[Robot Gentleman]

This post is just bandwagoning ad hominem for a non sequiter strawman. Therefore, you are wrong, and I am right.

 

[Flagstaff AZ]

This post is just bandwagoning ad hominem for a non sequiter strawman. Therefore, you are wrong, and I am right.

Take your rhetorical semantics (rectorial semenmandicks) somewhere else.

What the actual FUCK is "sealioning"?! These "people" have words to dismiss anything and everything they can't argue against. The author of the original comic, iirc, had to deny it was an analogy for niggers trying to talk the racism out of whites because that wasn't his intended message.

Spoiler: The comic in question

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You can clearly see the parallels. "I don't mind most races, but niggers? I could do without niggers."

Also, "retard" is hate speech now?

When you can't quote the Wikipedia article about a fallacy in a discussion - SEALIONING. Many such cases!

One of my favorite bookmarked threads ever:

https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/335337443

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

boring fallacy, i ain't reading all that shit

 

[Ughubughughughughughghlug]

OP is a faggot.

Um sweetie that’s an ad hominem fallacy, try again?

 

[Anime Waifu NFT collector]

However, Internet arguments don't rise to the level where you can criticize bullshit like this. You're not arguing about the fucking Sistine Chapel ceiling, you're arguing about some retarded shit.

This is just you saying that you don't need to make sense because you are on the internet and what you are arguing about doesn't matter, which I don't agree with.

I think the misuse of ad hominem is the one that gets me the most. It's not supposed to be when someone insults you during an argument, it's when their insult IS the argument. If I finish an argument and then call you an asshole that doesn't dismiss the actual argument.

I noticed that when people don't like an argument they call it a strawman or Ad Hominem, they know it is not but in their mind they think that if they call it that then that's what it becomes, and now that they called it a fallacy they can discard it in their mind instead of being forced to reevaluate what they think, example:
"Printing money is not the cause of inflation, there is a wide variety of causes"
"If printing money doesn't cause inflation then why doesn't the government stop collecting taxes and finances itself through money printing?"
"That's just a strawman"

It also has to be said that Ad Hominems are not necessarily a fallacy, if you call the r/antiwork mod that did an interview in Fox News a lazy autistic retard who hates capitalism because he is useless that's not really an ad hominem, isn't it? Sometimes a person's opinion is invalid because it's them who are saying it, and it's quite obvious that their opinion is driven by self interest or cope.