Florida man tries to open exit door on flight to China, gets hit with wine bottle - another exciting installment of Forida man

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July 8 (UPI) -- A Florida man caused chaos when he tried to open the exit door on a plane mid-flight, but a flight attendant hit him with a wine bottle as several passengers helped restrain him.

The FBI charged Joseph Daniel Hudek IV, a 23-year-old man from Tampa, Fla., with interfering with a flight crew after the incident, which occurred on a flight going from Seattle to Beijing, China.

Hudek was traveling first class and ordered one beer before the plane departed. Shortly after, while the plane was in the air, he went to the restroom, came out to ask a flight attendant a question, and then returned to the restroom. Two minutes later, he again exited the restroom and then ran towards an emergency exit door and attempted to open it.

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Two flight attendants tried to stop Hudek, but he pushed them away as he tried to lift the handle on the door. The flight attendants asked passengers for help, but Hudek fought them off, too, and hit one male passenger in the head with a desert wine bottle.

A flight attendant then grabbed a 1-liter bottle of wine and hit Hudek on the head.

"Do you know who I am?" Hudek allegedly said after getting smacked with the bottle.

He "did not seem impacted by the breaking of a full-liter red wine bottle over his head," the FBI complaint states.

Hudek continued to fight back, but more passengers got involved and eventually subdued the unruly man and he was restrained with zip-ties.

During the return to Seattle, Hudek "remained extremely combative, and multiple passengers were needed to restrain Hudek and keep him restrained until the plane landed safely," according to the complaint.

Hudek faces 20 years in prison for the incident.
 
Florida man is a fucking pussy for getting that wasted off one beer.

Who knows, it might have even been a root beer.

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This is the problem with having these sorts of devices available to all: they are prone to abuse. Having to smash some guy over the head with the cellar's best (or worst, take your pick) is rather desperate and not timely.

This imbecile could have caused a far larger issue than he had had he been successful.
 
Reading the article, I was wondering just how deep into trouble you'll get once the plane has made its emergency landing and ...

Hudek faces 20 years in prison for the incident.

... yeah. Do not do something stupid on a plane. Ever.

Though I wonder, can you open the doors on such a plane when it's in mid-flight? I always wondered if there is a lock or if it's really just flipping that huge lever to pop open that sucker.
On one hand, the cabin-pressure inside is bigger than the outside air-pressure, but then again, airflow surrounding the plane might just push the door shut.

Whenever I am in a plane and come past such a door, I can't help but wonder what would happen if you pull the lever, since there's nothing to really prevent you from doing it.
 
Though I wonder, can you open the doors on such a plane when it's in mid-flight? I always wondered if there is a lock or if it's really just flipping that huge lever to pop open that sucker.
On one hand, the cabin-pressure inside is bigger than the outside air-pressure, but then again, airflow surrounding the plane might just push the door shut.

Whenever I am in a plane and come past such a door, I can't help but wonder what would happen if you pull the lever, since there's nothing to really prevent you from doing it.
Most cabin doors are designed so that you first have to pull the door inward to disengage a secondary latch so that you can then push it outward. There's no way you're pulling that door inward when the cabin is pressurized an the aircraft is at altitude. I don't think 5 people could manage to do it.

But what you might be able to do is damage or jam the door mechanism, which could be a huge safety problem and an unbelievable headache once the aircraft lands.
 
Most cabin doors are designed so that you first have to pull the door inward to disengage a secondary latch so that you can then push it outward. There's no way you're pulling that door inward when the cabin is pressurized an the aircraft is at altitude. I don't think 5 people could manage to do it.

But what you might be able to do is damage or jam the door mechanism, which could be a huge safety problem and an unbelievable headache once the aircraft lands.
Even if you just barely manage to jimmy that door open wide enough to lose cabin pressure it would be catastrophic. The plane would have to immediately go to a lower altitude and I assume if that happens halfway across the atlantic or pacific, you're hosed.

But thanks for the information, I always thought there must be some system in place...
 
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Even if you just barely manage to jimmy that door open wide enough to lose cabin pressure it would be catastrophic.
You couldn't. Those doors have huge seals that compress further on the initial pull in. They're designed very well. But really the main problem in loss of cabin pressure is people losing consciousness. On total loss of cabin pressure at altitude, you'd have about 20-30 seconds of useful awareness before you lost consciousness. That's why those O2 masks are above everyone's seat, and why they drill it into your head during the pre-flight safety briefing to affix your own mask before helping your kid put theirs on; If you get your kid's mask on and then black out, it's less likely that the kid's going to be able to help you. The pilots have hardier masks that are designed to be donned quickly. The pilots would then descend to a lower altitude and make arrangements for an emergency landing at the nearest open airfield. (if they are trans-Atlantic or Pacific flight then they'd have to declare an emergency and keep it under 10,000 feet for the rest of the flight.) It would suck, but the flight-worthiness of the aircraft isn't really compromised if cabin pressure is lost.
 
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You couldn't. Those doors have huge seals that compress further on the initial pull in. They're designed very well. But really the main problem in loss of cabin pressure is people losing consciousness. On total loss of cabin pressure at altitude, you'd have about 20-30 seconds of useful awareness before you lost consciousness. That's why those O2 masks are above everyone's seat, and why they drill it into your head during the pre-flight safety briefing to affix your own mask before helping your kid put theirs on; If you get your kid's mask on and then black out, it's less likely that the kid's going to be able to help you. The pilots have hardier masks that are designed to be donned quickly. The pilots would then descend to a lower altitude and make arrangements for an emergency landing at the nearest open airfield. It would suck, but the flight-worthiness of the aircraft isn't really compromised if cabin pressure is lost.
I know, but the cruising abilities of a plane depend on how high it flies. At sealevel, I doubt a passenger plane would get enough mileage out of their fueltanks to traverse an ocean like the pacific.
 
I know, but the cruising abilities of a plane depend on how high it flies. At sealevel, I doubt a passenger plane would get enough mileage out of their fueltanks to traverse an ocean like the pacific.
They should have enough to reach the nearest airfield. Whether that means turning around or diverting. Trans-ocean flights are actually planned out pretty well with these kinds of scenarios in mind, and they always carry extra fuel.
 
Once you get to altitude there is no way, barring a one-in-a-million structural failure, that a cabin door will open. It doesn't matter how hard you pull on the handle. They are inward-opening "plug" doors designed so that they will only open once the pressure inside the plane is lower or equal to that on the outside, and that simply cannot happen since air pressure outside the plane is always going to be lower at cruising altitude. It's a fail safe in case someone like Florida Man is on the plane and actually tries to do it. There were several nasty accidents involving the DC-9 airliner early in its flying career because the cargo doors were NOT designed failsafe, they were outward opening, and due to a fault of the design of the door locks COULD open in flight.

Not to be all autistic, but this is one of those things that Hollywood consistently gets wrong, like guns going off if you drop them or cars exploding if you shoot a handgun at one, and your average person, not knowing any better, believes.

Now, you still shouldn't DO it because it's a dangerous violation of common sense, but the idea that you could actually cause an explosive/decompression catastrophe is pretty much nil.
 
Most cabin doors are designed so that you first have to pull the door inward to disengage a secondary latch so that you can then push it outward. There's no way you're pulling that door inward when the cabin is pressurized an the aircraft is at altitude. I don't think 5 people could manage to do it.
There is something at least a little comforting in knowing that his intention to murder a planeload of people was laughably ineffectual from the start.
 
They are inward-opening "plug" doors
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Plane doors usually open out, there isn't always room for them to open inward. Inward opening doors do exist, but they're not universal.
 
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