French Leftists riot & attack people after votes don’t go their way

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Yet Another Wanker said:
The Left-Center-Right beat the Far right. Riots have been called off retard.
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Obviously, that sudden and inexplicable change in the voting pattern is highly dubious. So is it time for National Rally supporters to start rioting and attacking people, F*ck Face? Or is that ‘freedom of expression’ only permitted for the Leftist loons?
 
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Übertroon said:
It's going to be fun to see how this election got "fortified"
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This is how they cheated.
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Quence said:
Obviously, that sudden and inexplicable change in the voting pattern is highly dubious. So is it time for National Rally supporters to start rioting and attacking people, F*ck Face? Or is that ‘freedom of expression’ only permitted for the Leftist loons?
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It's tempting to said f*ck the double standards, what's good for the goose is good for the gander. If the leftists got a taste of their own medecine, it would be priceless.
 
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Sithis said:
Parliamentary systems come with fortification pre-installed, it's a really retarded system of governance.
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Seems like having multiple rounds of voting is a huge part of the problem. Round 1 usually seems to be the true will of the people, but instead of going with that, they just use it as a "practice run" so they know how much to cheat in the second round.

Had the second round gone just as hard to the right, I bet they would have come up with an excuse for a third round. Basically "we're gonna keep re-doing this until people vote the "correct" way."
 
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Ewan McGregor said:
I told you bitches there was no way in hell the freemasons who control France would allow a RN win, and you rated me autistic.
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Honestly we now have the set of absolute weakest governments in the last century. It's genuinely like the Weimar, now - ineffectual, bickering coalitions full of conflicting interests.

Thus now is the time to be as strong as possible, and to learn as much as possible, over on the Self Sufficiency thread.
 
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Doctor Love said:
Honestly we now have the set of absolute weakest governments in the last century. It's genuinely like the Weimar, now - ineffectual, bickering coalitions full of conflicting interests.

Thus now is the time to be as strong as possible, and to learn as much as possible, over on the Self Sufficiency thread.
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I personally believe it's a good thing.

If Bordulla had won, then he would have had to deal with an absolute shitstorm of a situation for which there is hardly any peaceful/political situation, and he would have done so with every institution in France against. By the end, his government would have been either as ineffectual as the other 'far right' governments in Europe like Moleni, or would have seen as tyrannical and nazi and all that like Trump.

Because people wants things done but they don't want what it takes.

This abomination of a New People's Front would have been strengthened after that.

A government of the NPF, provided that doesn't destroy fucking everything, will do the only shit they know doing, which is deepening on already existing policies (the revolutionaires, them) and making the already terminal situation even more severe. They will end up obliterating themselves like the Socialist Party, the Republicans and Macron's liberals did before.

And then the RF will be the last man standing.

But there's another thing, a math problem if you will: If LREM and LR got such pathetic votes that they didn't run for second round, because they are so discredited, and the PS has been oficially absorbed by LFI and its orbiters of the far left. Where have these enlightened centrist voters that used to vote for these parties? A lot of them vote RN now or abstain, I would think.

Where are the votes for the left coming from in second round? People who voted Macron and would still have voted him probably voted far left, as it is not that much of a stretch really.

The left is unlike the right in that they are difficult to demoralize, because they are fanaticized. Can the left be discredited to such an extent with this People's Front that eventually the RN is the last man standing? We'll see.

In Britain, it's hopeless. If Labour discredits itself as thoroughly as the Torys have discredited themselves, the general public would bounce back to the Torys thinking they'll do anything vaguely based, but not too much. And that's in case they don¡t proceed to effect severe alterations to the state and colonize its institutions with fervorous believers (of Islam), which is exactlly what they'll do, both in Britain and France.
 
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The Connected Nose said:
Seems like having multiple rounds of voting is a huge part of the problem. Round 1 usually seems to be the true will of the people, but instead of going with that, they just use it as a "practice run" so they know how much to cheat in the second round.

Had the second round gone just as hard to the right, I bet they would have come up with an excuse for a third round. Basically "we're gonna keep re-doing this until people vote the "correct" way."
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What happens is that 1/3rd of France supports the right, but the rest are split between leftist and centrist parties. In a three way vote, there's a chance that the right could win with 34% of the vote while the other two parties get 33% each.
The people who don't vote for the right in the first round will vote for any other party in a 2 way race, so in cases where there's a three way race, one of the parties drops out to ensure the right loses a 2 way race.

This happens in every French election, there's no manipulation, the French will accept anyone as long as the right loses. Remember, this is a country where people see an Islamic terrorist attack kill hundreds, then rush to defend Muslims as the "real victims"
 
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KingCoelacanth said:
What happens is that 1/3rd of France supports the right, but the rest are split between leftist and centrist parties. In a three way vote, there's a chance that the right could win with 34% of the vote while the other two parties get 33% each.
The people who don't vote for the right in the first round will vote for any other party in a 2 way race, so in cases where there's a three way race, one of the parties drops out to ensure the right loses a 2 way race.

This happens in every French election, there's no manipulation, the French will accept anyone as long as the right loses. Remember, this is a country where people see an Islamic terrorist attack kill hundreds, then rush to defend Muslims as the "real victims"
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This is why rank voting is dogshit and why it always leads to multiple leftist factions teaming up to kick out the right wing candidate. You saw it in Alaska, the second "Republican" Nick Begich split the vote from Palin giving the Democrat a lead, then he endorsed the Democrat, so a bunch of his supporters left Palin off their ballot and a Republican seat that had been Republican for 50 years flips Blue by nearly 10 points. It is the same thing in France, leftists are leftists no matter what label you put on them and they will do everything they can to actually keep any right wing party from taking power and working to actually fix the mess they created. All the while they will continue to import more and more insane immigrants to the point actual French will never be able to vote themselves out of the deathspin.
 
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CarlosDanger said:
This is why rank voting is dogshit and why it always leads to multiple leftist factions teaming up to kick out the right wing candidate. You saw it in Alaska, the second "Republican" Nick Begich split the vote from Palin giving the Democrat a lead, then he endorsed the Democrat, so a bunch of his supporters left Palin off their ballot and a Republican seat that had been Republican for 50 years flips Blue by nearly 10 points. It is the same thing in France, leftists are leftists no matter what label you put on them and they will do everything they can to actually keep any right wing party from taking power and working to actually fix the mess they created. All the while they will continue to import more and more insane immigrants to the point actual French will never be able to vote themselves out of the deathspin.
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There's no problem with either of those scenarios. People voted in a two way election for who they wanted and the person with the most votes won.
You're arguing for a system where someone could get 40% of the votes and win in a three way race, knowing they would've lost to either of the other two candidates in a two way race.
 
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