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The reaction to this video from people who actually understand these "mud tests" should be the same as every other: that these videos are infotainment at most and not to be taken seriously. They're good at modeling very specific debris-related failure modes, but they're not realistic to the day to day operation of the guns, even in heavy mud conditions like Ukraine's rasputitsa/bezdorizhzhia. Not by any stretch. Most mud doesn't get poured onto the rifle from above, then patted down onto it, and then diluted further with water from above to make sure it gets everywhere. The guns are also usually cleaned in some way by the operators because you'll notice if you can't even reach the safety on your rifle through the dirt.

Governments and military procurement systems don't care, they're aware of the compromises that go into their equipment and they're fine with the soldiers paying for them on occasion. Everybody forgets the AK platform turned into a straight-pull bolt-action rifle when put through a milder version of that test, but it's not like Finland was bothered enough by it to drop the RK 62. The MCX might have many flaws, but Karl's (and Ian's, he's not off the hook here) mud tests aren't designed to be representative. They're designed to be visually dramatic and to favor extremely well-sealed actions, which may have their own issues that these tests don't display. They're like burying a Toyota Hilux up past the exhaust in dense mud and then being surprised the truck doesn't turn on anymore even though it's supposed to be "good off-road".
You want to know the main issue with the rifle is? It's ugly.
 
There’s no quick way to tell that one. It’s another one for my industry memoirs though.

When the .gov is convinced they are right there are no lengths they won’t go to to try to prove it.
LOL, this sounds good until you realize that Phagan has never left his mom's house. He will turn 40 on June 3rd of this year and he still lives with his mother. He has never lived outside the Phoenix/Mesa area. Never left, never will.
The "ATF Informant" probably found out that he still had Spiderman bed set and his mom made him peanut butter and jelly sandwiches for his lunch and noped the fuck out. It is one thing to be an informant it is another thing entirely to be an informant against Norman Bates.

He is just Chris Chan of the gun world.
 
LOL, this sounds good until you realize that Phagan has never left his mom's house. He will turn 40 on June 3rd of this year and he still lives with his mother. He has never lived outside the Phoenix/Mesa area. Never left, never will.
The "ATF Informant" probably found out that he still had Spiderman bed set and his mom made him peanut butter and jelly sandwiches for his lunch and noped the fuck out. It is one thing to be an informant it is another thing entirely to be an informant against Norman Bates.

He is just Chris Chan of the gun world.

My bed sheets are dinosaur themed thank you very much.
 
LOL, this sounds good until you realize that Phagan has never left his mom's house. He will turn 40 on June 3rd of this year and he still lives with his mother. He has never lived outside the Phoenix/Mesa area. Never left, never will.
The "ATF Informant" probably found out that he still had Spiderman bed set and his mom made him peanut butter and jelly sandwiches for his lunch and noped the fuck out. It is one thing to be an informant it is another thing entirely to be an informant against Norman Bates.

He is just Chris Chan of the gun world.

I'm guessing you must have been the glownigger that was hitting on him. lmfao
 
My bed sheets are dinosaur themed thank you very much.
Exactly.

You have the bad habit of talking just like Chris Chan. I wonder if you will end up the same way?

When are you going to grow up and accomplish some basic adult things?

Hell, I know meth addicts that have accomplished more adulting than you.

I'm guessing you must have been the glownigger that was hitting on him. lmfao
LOL, no really Phagan is a momma's boy.

For most of Phagan's life he has lived at these two addresses
3319 E FAIRBROOK ST, MESA, AZ, 85213, USA - Owned by his father until his parents divorce in 2001. It was then owned by his mother and he lived with her until 2017.

6448 E Adobe Road, MESA, AZ 85205, USA - He has lived here since 2017 with his mother.

Fans of people are the dumbest group of individuals on the planet. You prove that point very well Archie. Phagan cannot even move out from his mother's home. He has never had a to pay rent or a mortgage. He is exactly the type of loser that typifies his generation. He is exactly like Chris Chan. Over in that discussion people are amazed that a middle aged man could spend his entire life under his mother's roof. Why doesn't Phagan go over to that discussion and answer that question for them. Your a fan though and will go to great lengths to brush off your favorites failures to make yourself feel like you made the right choice. Phagan latched onto Karl twenty years ago to make up for his father. Karl is his daddy. A daddy that thinks and believes that the MDRx is a great rifle. Talk about Chris Chan levels of delusion.

The glownigger that is Phagan went on about Rittenhouse and how he should of done x, y, and z. Rittenhouse has accomplished two things in his life that Phagan hasn't. Used a firearm for something more than a toy and MOVED THE FUCK OUT OF HIS MOMMA's HOUSE. Phagan is the last person who should ever talk about anything. He should invest in being an adult. His 72 year old mother will not last forever. Then what the fuck will Phagan do?

Do you honestly think the ATF would seriously honey pot this loser? Even the federal government cannot take someone like this seriously. He is acting like the ATF wanted to fuck him over like they did his boss at the time. His former boss made up a lot of stories just like Phagan does. Remember the whole Cavalry Arms story that the ATF raided them for no reason. Just to find out in the plea deal that Phagan's boss was turned in by salty as fuck gun owners.
 
Your public records searching sucks bro. But you not finding any of the exes I’ve lived with or former room mates to harass is probably a good thing.

Edit: Cav got fucked over by someone attempting to work off their own charges by being a CI. After 2 years of investigation and hundreds of thousands of dollars spent in defense the atf leveled dozens of charges. Most were easily defended. But it would have taken another few years and hundreds of thousands of dollars. Nealon took a plea agreement to sales to an out of state resident (the CI) and got 3 years probation and a $10,000 fine. He’s a felon and can’t own guns now. This is a choice many would make under the circumstances.

The government kept me from pursuing my own business ventures and caused me to waste a lot of money trying to. The situation made it difficult to find full time work for years. Combine this with an ex that was not healthy for me in a number of ways including financially and I was set back financially about a decade.

I have paid rent consistently everywhere I have lived for the past 20 years. Often times more than my fair share to support other people; family and significant others included.

between surviving federal investigations, managing new product developments, and managing a business, I think I do plenty of “adulting”

But I’m sure you’re a master of your craft with a hot trad wife and a bunch of kids and are the envy of everyone in your upper middle class suburban neighborhood. I surely don’t measure up just chugging along in my little industry trying to make products I believe in and enjoy using.
 
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Your public records searching sucks bro. But you not finding any of the exes I’ve lived with or former room mates to harass is probably a good thing.
Yeah, I am sure that you have tons of those Lil' Wayne. You are on Kiwifarms don't bitch about one of the main features of the Farms. I have no intention of ever harassing anyone close and dear to you.

Say hi to Debra
 
Exactly.

You have the bad habit of talking just like Chris Chan. I wonder if you will end up the same way?

When are you going to grow up and accomplish some basic adult things?

Hell, I know meth addicts that have accomplished more adulting than you.


LOL, no really Phagan is a momma's boy.

For most of Phagan's life he has lived at these two addresses
3319 E FAIRBROOK ST, MESA, AZ, 85213, USA - Owned by his father until his parents divorce in 2001. It was then owned by his mother and he lived with her until 2017.

6448 E Adobe Road, MESA, AZ 85205, USA - He has lived here since 2017 with his mother.

Fans of people are the dumbest group of individuals on the planet. You prove that point very well Archie. Phagan cannot even move out from his mother's home. He has never had a to pay rent or a mortgage. He is exactly the type of loser that typifies his generation. He is exactly like Chris Chan. Over in that discussion people are amazed that a middle aged man could spend his entire life under his mother's roof. Why doesn't Phagan go over to that discussion and answer that question for them. Your a fan though and will go to great lengths to brush off your favorites failures to make yourself feel like you made the right choice. Phagan latched onto Karl twenty years ago to make up for his father. Karl is his daddy. A daddy that thinks and believes that the MDRx is a great rifle. Talk about Chris Chan levels of delusion.

The glownigger that is Phagan went on about Rittenhouse and how he should of done x, y, and z. Rittenhouse has accomplished two things in his life that Phagan hasn't. Used a firearm for something more than a toy and MOVED THE FUCK OUT OF HIS MOMMA's HOUSE. Phagan is the last person who should ever talk about anything. He should invest in being an adult. His 72 year old mother will not last forever. Then what the fuck will Phagan do?

Do you honestly think the ATF would seriously honey pot this loser? Even the federal government cannot take someone like this seriously. He is acting like the ATF wanted to fuck him over like they did his boss at the time. His former boss made up a lot of stories just like Phagan does. Remember the whole Cavalry Arms story that the ATF raided them for no reason. Just to find out in the plea deal that Phagan's boss was turned in by salty as fuck gun owners.
Phagan might be Karl the Kuck's little brown butt boy but shit son, you've got terminal autism. The only one here that has anything in common with Chris Chan is you.
 
Exactly.

You have the bad habit of talking just like Chris Chan. I wonder if you will end up the same way?

When are you going to grow up and accomplish some basic adult things?

Hell, I know meth addicts that have accomplished more adulting than you.


LOL, no really Phagan is a momma's boy.

For most of Phagan's life he has lived at these two addresses
3319 E FAIRBROOK ST, MESA, AZ, 85213, USA - Owned by his father until his parents divorce in 2001. It was then owned by his mother and he lived with her until 2017.

6448 E Adobe Road, MESA, AZ 85205, USA - He has lived here since 2017 with his mother.

Fans of people are the dumbest group of individuals on the planet. You prove that point very well Archie. Phagan cannot even move out from his mother's home. He has never had a to pay rent or a mortgage. He is exactly the type of loser that typifies his generation. He is exactly like Chris Chan. Over in that discussion people are amazed that a middle aged man could spend his entire life under his mother's roof. Why doesn't Phagan go over to that discussion and answer that question for them. Your a fan though and will go to great lengths to brush off your favorites failures to make yourself feel like you made the right choice. Phagan latched onto Karl twenty years ago to make up for his father. Karl is his daddy. A daddy that thinks and believes that the MDRx is a great rifle. Talk about Chris Chan levels of delusion.

The glownigger that is Phagan went on about Rittenhouse and how he should of done x, y, and z. Rittenhouse has accomplished two things in his life that Phagan hasn't. Used a firearm for something more than a toy and MOVED THE FUCK OUT OF HIS MOMMA's HOUSE. Phagan is the last person who should ever talk about anything. He should invest in being an adult. His 72 year old mother will not last forever. Then what the fuck will Phagan do?

Do you honestly think the ATF would seriously honey pot this loser? Even the federal government cannot take someone like this seriously. He is acting like the ATF wanted to fuck him over like they did his boss at the time. His former boss made up a lot of stories just like Phagan does. Remember the whole Cavalry Arms story that the ATF raided them for no reason. Just to find out in the plea deal that Phagan's boss was turned in by salty as fuck gun owners.

It's as if you fell out of the stupid tree and hit every branch with your head (and your taint) on the way down. Have you considered a more respectable hobby, like simping for e-thots or swallowing a Remington green-and-white box 115-grain JHP?
 
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