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Only A Retard Sometimes said:
as for the PSL, dont they destroy themselves with heavy ball ammo?
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That's fuddlore. Zero proof of it ever happening, but people hear it and it sounds good to them so they repeat it everywhere. Just like "pink wrapper 7.62x25 surplus blows up Tokarevs" and "cast receiver M14s are inferior because of the fact that the receiver is cast."
 
S.C.U.D. said:
That's fuddlore. Zero proof of it ever happening, but people hear it and it sounds good to them so they repeat it everywhere. Just like "pink wrapper 7.62x25 surplus blows up Tokarevs" and "cast receiver M14s are inferior because of the fact that the receiver is cast."
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Uh, no it isn't. It's pretty well documented that PSLs will break themselves outside of a certain grain ammo. I'm about to turn in but I'll edit my post tomorrow with source.

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I scoured a few forums and there is a lot of people who agree that running heavy ball can crack the trunnion or receiver, and also fuck with the action. I believe it's due to how the semi auto action is designed in these but as I've not shot a PSL in over a decade or had any interest in them since then I cannot tell you definitively. Anyway, heres some links as promised :

www.sniperforums.com

PSL Romak 3

I know this is more of a designated marksman type of rifle, but it is always compared to the Dragunov, which is already listed in the rifles section. They are good buy right now, at less than a thousand dollars for the rifle, spare mag, cleaning kit, and scope with glass by I.O.R. I just...
www.sniperforums.com www.sniperforums.com

www.thefirearmsforum.com

Sub-MOA Ammo for PSL?

A long time ago, I got a PSL (Romak III) because I thought it was a cool "sniper" gun. I think I paid $800, and I got a case and used scope with it. I got nowhere with it, and I felt stupid because I could have had something like a Remington 700 or Winchester 70 cheaper. I bought Russian ammo...
www.thefirearmsforum.com www.thefirearmsforum.com





www.snipershide.com

Range Report - psl and bulgarian 7.62x54r

I was just wondering if anyone had any experience with bulgarian 7.62x54r surplus ammo (stamped star 3/10/53). Is this ammo any good? light or heavy? There is a picture of it at 7.62x54r.net, but no eval or description. The story is I have a century arms psl, and after about 60 rounds, the...
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Lots of people have been able to get these shit sticks to 1MOA or sub but that's by rolling their own ammo in them.
 
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S.C.U.D. said:
That's fuddlore. Zero proof of it ever happening, but people hear it and it sounds good to them so they repeat it everywhere. Just like "pink wrapper 7.62x25 surplus blows up Tokarevs" and "cast receiver M14s are inferior because of the fact that the receiver is cast."
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the real problem with cast M14s are that fully milled M14s are only ~400 more.
 
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In defense of what the PSL was built to do it is fine for its job. It was intended to be a DMR rifle and needed to shoot minute of man at 800m. It does that fine. Is it worth more then $1000? No. It’s kind of like deer hunting around me. I know multiple people who hunt with iron sights on surplus mosins or Enfields cause it just needs to shoot minute of deer at 100m.
 
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Not sure how invested people still are in the MAC drama but the tl;dr
- PRDUBI returns to akforums, FÉG's had no involvement in US sales strategy so it's all on the importer
- Importer will honor the priority list with the next 50 rifles, but Copper Custom will still be the store handling sales (last min update)
- MAC copes with the downvote brigade by stating that they help the algorithm anyway
- Tim also claims PRDUBI created the list after the import was done, which is a lie
- Then claims he has emails exposing PRDUBI, which contradicts his previous claim that he didn't know who PRDUBI was
 
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S.C.U.D. said:
Don't worry, AKfiles did all the hard work for him to make sure the guns were compliant with import laws.
The third hole stuff does remind me of back in the early 90s Labnau imported a bunch of MAK-90s built on full auto receivers and nobody realized it until guns were in the hands of civilians. It was one of the factors that led to the Chinese import ban of May 1994.
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I thought that mostly had to do with the fact that they caught some chink who was a direct agent or NORINCO making a deal to sell a bunch of FA chinese AK's and whatever they call their RPG-7's to the Crips?
 
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S.C.U.D. said:
Just like "pink wrapper 7.62x25 surplus blows up Tokarevs"
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I think that stems from confusing guns. Bulgarian 7.62x25mm surplus was loaded for subguns, as Bulgaria only used it for subguns and never issued it with pistols, they loaded it hot, as they have history with high powered subguns. People think that there's no such thing as a subgun load of 7.62mm Tokarev, because Russia never had one, and most others in the Warsaw Pact just copied that load.

The TT33 pistol can handle these loads quite fine, it's CZ52 pistols which really cannot. Some old timer (I think his name was Clark Magnuson) on all those old boomer forums went through a lot of effort to prove this. Conducting experiments which are small and admittedly not very scientific, and kind of recklessly dangerous, he'd do shit like cook up ridiculously souped up loads of 7.62mm Tokarev, or .38 Super (with a replacement barrel), which he'd compensate for with ridiculously stiff recoil springs, and he claims his Tokarev pistol handled this kind of bullshit just fine, and he'd do it to stuff like Glocks and little .25 Auto pocket pistols as well. Doing something even half as wild with a CZ52 had it just blow out its slide, and his conclusion was that the design was weak.

Now, this is just the mad scientist experiments of some old boomer, which other boomers called a reckless lunatic (and clearly he was out looking for something to prove), but knowing how underengineered and sloppy the CZ52 pistol is, I'm inclined to believe him when he says it turned into a grenade when loaded with hot ammo.
 
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waffle said:
I thought that mostly had to do with the fact that they caught some chink who was a direct agent or NORINCO making a deal to sell a bunch of FA chinese AK's and whatever they call their RPG-7's to the Crips?
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They offered way more than that, all the way up to offering surface to air missiles and tanks. I believe they did get caught bringing in actual full autos illegally as well. Much as I hate import bans and gun control, Norincos was fully justified.
 
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S.C.U.D. said:
New Cokeman. Apparently MAC is threatening legal action against people who have recently criticized him, and his store is banning people who post memes about him.
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That's definitely not gonna blow up in his face even more....
Makes me wonder how long his been this unhinged. This is definitely gonna trash whats left of his reputation, wonder how bad this will hit his shop.
 
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Spicey McHaggis said:
That's definitely not gonna blow up in his face even more....
Makes me wonder how long his been this unhinged. This is definitely gonna trash whats left of his reputation, wonder how bad this will hit his shop.
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Marketers take note. Anything MAC does when handling a social media crisis; do the opposite. Had he not responded to anyone, this would had been largely dead by now.

It's becoming more and more obvious MAC is the type of person consumed by criticism. I bet he thinks about this drama when he tucks his kids into bed.

I had no clue about his obsession with randomly calling people anti-semites in the comments until all of this SVD stuff surfaced. Personally I find it a lot more disgusting than the FEG drama.
 
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Spicey McHaggis said:
I just can't imagine what he could sue them for, he's a public figure, so libel is pretty hard to get them for. All I can think of is that he's just trying to scare people with the legal system, which is a poor move, especially in the gun community.
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I hope Yankee plays it up and acts like a clown just to antagonize Tim.
 
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