General GunTuber thread

[Molly White's Breast Milk]

Some days I feel like I'm the only non-SA, non-/k/ poster in this thread.

If you don't have fond memories of Mishaco's bright orange blanket background for his gun photography, the entire Micromancer photoshoot, or you don't know what gun Miso Beno used to blow his brains out you need to get the fuck off our board.

jk, you're cool but you did miss some good shit on TFR 15 years ago.

 

[Champion The Wonder Horse]

If you don't have fond memories of Mishaco's bright orange blanket background for his gun photography, the entire Micromancer photoshoot, or you don't know what gun Miso Beno used to blow his brains out you need to get the fuck off our board.

jk, you're cool but you did miss some good shit on TFR 15 years ago.

I still occasionally see a Micromancer pic now and then in memes/cringe compilations. Takes me back to a simpler time, a better time before cat-ladies and trannies ruined everything

 

[1Tonka_Truck]

Also, I don’t own KE Arms.

Anyone else shocked this is true? Also, you might want to tell your boss to use an office-in-a-box address for his business filings.

 

[SinistralRifleman]

It wouldn’t surprise me if more people around here know you more as a goon than a youtuber.
A lot of people moved here as SA spiraled the drain.

The funny thing is a shit talking thread is why I showed up there too. I found the thread doing a google search in 2007. Someone named “Combat Wombat” said that the owner of Cavalry Arms, Shawn Nealon, and myself were “pasty doughy neckbeard faggots”. I registered and responded “we may be doughy, and we may be neckbeards, but you sir are the faggot”. Once challenged he disappeared. Site was cool for a while.

Never forget 4 teams of internet weirdos out performed the Tactical Response team at the 2009 Tiger Valley Team Match. These included 3 Awful Shooting Squads, and one OTF nation team.

 

[White Devil]

The funny thing is a shit talking thread is why I showed up there too. I found the thread doing a google search in 2007. Someone named “Combat Wombat” said that the owner of Cavalry Arms, Shawn Nealon, and myself were “pasty doughy neckbeard faggots”. I registered and responded “we may be doughy, and we may be neckbeards, but you sir are the faggot”. Once challenged he disappeared. Site was cool for a while.

Never forget 4 teams of internet weirdos out performed the Tactical Response team at the 2009 Tiger Valley Team Match. These included 3 Awful Shooting Squads, and one OTF nation team.

Dude, let's be honest... Outperforming Buck Angel isn't a feat.

 

[Archie_Kimkicker]

Dude, let's be honest... Outperforming Buck Angel isn't a feat.

Speaking of, when do we get a video on how to deal with sclerotic tremor while under fire?

 

[Ghjkl63]

Well, while shitting somewhere anyway. Shitting at work is always unpleasant. Nobody buys the nice toilet paper.

No, I watch most of my gun-tube at work though. Easier to explain than some other stuff.

tbh a huge part of why I was unhappy at my last job was they only bought the cheap industrial tp that you need at least double the amount to clean your starfish

 

[Sleazy Car Salesman]

tbh a huge part of why I was unhappy at my last job was they only bought the cheap industrial tp that you need at least double the amount to clean your starfish

There are few things in the world more day ruining and unfulfilling than a disappointing trip to the shitter.

 

[Friekorps2656]

Has Lucas from Twink-Rex Arms ever lifted any weights or had any actual training?

 

[White Devil]

Has Lucas from Twink-Rex Arms ever lifted any weights or had any actual training?

Lol

 

[AGPinochet]

had any actual training?

Years ago he privately took John Lovell's advanced NV course and more recently did received personal instruction from JJ Racaza, I cannot speak to anything else.

 

[Still Anonymous For This]

Karl and Sinistral Rifleman posted a new video comparing a red dot versus bead sights on shotguns. They perform this test in the fucking stupidest way possible by comparing a sxs firing slugs against a pump gun with a red dot at 50 yards against a spinner target.

Red dots on defensive shotguns are unnecessary and dumb. Bad guy enter home. Put bead on center mass. Pull trigger. Hire cleaners.

 

[Blasterisk]

Karl and Sinistral Rifleman posted a new video comparing a red dot versus bead sights on shotguns. They perform this test in the fucking stupidest way possible by comparing a sxs firing slugs against a pump gun with a red dot at 50 yards against a spinner target.

Red dots on defensive shotguns are unnecessary and dumb. Bad guy enter home. Put bead on center mass. Pull trigger. Hire cleaners.

You laugh, but if there were spinners in your house who would be laughing then?!

 

[SinistralRifleman]

Karl and Sinistral Rifleman posted a new video comparing a red dot versus bead sights on shotguns. They perform this test in the fucking stupidest way possible by comparing a sxs firing slugs against a pump gun with a red dot at 50 yards against a spinner target.

Red dots on defensive shotguns are unnecessary and dumb. Bad guy enter home. Put bead on center mass. Pull trigger. Hire cleaners.

Watch the previous video where we do this with bird shot at 7-10 yards perhaps before sperging out?

https://youtu.be/eOJ3yCEpl8Q

There’s a buckshot one that’ll get posted at some point.

The spinner challenges are just seeing if it can be done with a particular firearm and sighting system. They’re not scientific tests. The patrons request the firearm or ammo type. We have Mosin, VP-70, P90, and some others already filmed.

 

[Sleazy Car Salesman]

You laugh, but if there were spinners in your house who would be laughing then?!

What can men do against such reckless rotational force?

 

[SinistralRifleman]

Dude, let's be honest... Outperforming Buck Angel isn't a feat.

When it’s internet weirdos that never trained together vs a group that trains all the time, I’d say at the very least it’s hilarious.

 

[Corn Flakes]

I don't get what the argument is here. Sure, bead sights work just fine at point-blank range, but so does holding the stock under your armpit and aiming by zen if you're really that fucking close. With that in mind, would I refuse a red dot? No, I wouldn't. If I have time to aim in that sort of situation, I know I personally pick up targets faster with a red dot compared to bead sights.

 

[Puff]

I don't get what the argument is here. Sure, bead sights work just fine at point-blank range, but so does holding the stock under your armpit and aiming by zen if you're really that fucking close. With that in mind, would I refuse a red dot? No, I wouldn't. If I have time to aim in that sort of situation, I know I personally pick up targets faster with a red dot compared to bead sights.

There's a certain amount of "might as well put a good sight on it", but some of the guys I know who shoot clay targets competitively remove even the beads from their guns.
Red dot I'd think would be great for turkey hunting... at least that's where I first saw them marketed. Home defense it's probably unneeded, but if it's not in the way, throw it on.

 

[Still Anonymous For This]

Watch the previous video where we do this with bird shot at 7-10 yards perhaps before sperging out?

https://youtu.be/eOJ3yCEpl8Q

There’s a buckshot one that’ll get posted at some point.

The spinner challenges are just seeing if it can be done with a particular firearm and sighting system. They’re not scientific tests. The patrons request the firearm or ammo type. We have Mosin, VP-70, P90, and some others already filmed.

Karl literally says people who say irons (a bead in this case) on shotguns are wrong. You developed a nonsensical test. If the point was just to fuck around, that’s awesome, but Karl is trying to pass this off as empirical data when it isn’t. The fact that, of course a sxs would inherently be far less accurate than a pump gun, is never brought up by either of you in the video and you’re only downplaying it now after everyone has brought it up, because of-fucking-course it had an affect on the results.

>obviously misses to the left when firing the left barrel
>obviously missses to the right when firing the right barrel
>”I know how to pattern this shotgun, it being a SxS has nothing to do with it!”

I don't get what the argument is here. Sure, bead sights work just fine at point-blank range, but so does holding the stock under your armpit and aiming by zen if you're really that fucking close. With that in mind, would I refuse a red dot? No, I wouldn't. If I have time to aim in that sort of situation, I know I personally pick up targets faster with a red dot compared to bead sights.

I personally find putting red dots on defensive shotguns to be a waste of money and time. A good cheek weld and the bead works fine. You’re not lining up sights like a rifle and, if dark, you can still pick up the bead from whatever white light you’re using.

I’m probably being overly critical of people who tacticalize a home defense shotgun, but I can at least understand why someone might want to put a red dot on one: at least they’re not putting rifle sights on them.

 

[SinistralRifleman]

Karl literally says people who say irons (a bead in this case) on shotguns are wrong. You developed a nonsensical test. If the point was just to fuck around, that’s awesome, but Karl is trying to pass this off as empirical data when it isn’t. The fact that, of course a sxs would inherently be far less accurate than a pump gun, is never brought up by either of you in the video and you’re only downplaying it now after everyone has brought it up, because of-fucking-course it had an affect on the results.

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>obviously misses to the left when firing the left barrel
>obviously missses to the right when firing the right barrel
>”I know how to pattern this shotgun, it being a SxS has nothing to do with it!”

The entire series of these is called “Spinner Challenge”. We open the video talking about that. Most of the dialogue is about engaging the spinner and the circumstances I’ve engaged them under at matches. You’re fixating on one sentence out of the entire video. People regularly say red dots on shotguns are a disadvantage or slower. Those people are full of shit

Bead sights whether on double or a single barrel are not good enough to reliably hit a spinner at 50 yards with a shotgun. The plates are 8” and 10” across. A man sized target at 50 yards, sure I’ve done that. I’ve never seen anyone reliably rotate spinners with bead sights with slugs.

I’ll also take rifle sights or ghost rings over a bead because they give me the option of using more sight information or less sight information depending on target size and distance. Using either with both eyes open is the same as using a bead. So much fuddlore surrounding this shit.