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WhoBusTank69 said:
The trans side of Gun Twitter has picked a fight with a true and honest female shooter over something that nobody wants to actually mention for videos and posts on Satanic Accelerationists, 764, and other batshit collections of people/pedophiles - also a Ruben Sim fan.
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ETA: She shoots left handed because she almost lost her right arm at some point.

https://x.com/bx_on_x/status/1956821958391365716 (A)
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I post this here because both Ivan and Matt decided to go after her, too. Matt because he wants attention and Ivan because she wants to shoot shotguns at not-birds.
https://x.com/bx_on_x/status/1957190928277307489 (A)
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https://x.com/FuddBusters/status/1957227224584831265 (A)
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quaawaa said:
She can handle herself:
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The real reason why Ivan and Matt hate her; she's anti-troon and anti-pedo:
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Sounds like she's one of us.
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Disclaimer that I will use the "trust, but verify" method. I hope she is legit, but it seems she isn't a controlled op.

With that said, I am a firm believer that once weak, pathetic men show up no matter where you are - Christ puts women and or children forth who have "pants" in order to humiliate such men and perhaps shame those who still have the senses to say they got to get up and do their part as well. The best example is in the Book of Judges with Deborah and Barak. How fucking shameful that these two "men" like trannies (and potentially porn brained) while this woman is clean. She probably comes from a stable household. God bless her, if that's the case.
 
Well guess I'm unsubbing from Ivan then lol. It's a shame cause he made some good presentations, but if he's just going to pick fights with women online and be a cunt I don't see any reason to stick around there. What kind of faggot goes online and thinks he can talk down to or shame people for shooting at 'the wrong targets' with their shotgun. Who gives a fuck, half of the hobby is about having fun anyway. Hunting birds or waterfowl with a shotgun is far from the most popular use of the shotgun.
 
Bob Vogel has plead NOT guilty to all charges.

His charges include pandering obscenity involving a minor, disrupting public service, and furnishing alcohol to a minor. Bob is not allowed to consume or possess Subutex methadone except is currently prescribed and not visit or be present on any premises where alcoholic beverages, harmful intoxicants, dangerous drugs, or substance of abuse are served or present.

Bob is subject to testing his breath, hair, saliva, blood, urine at the request of any law enforcement officer and he can't leave the state of Ohio without written permission from the court.

Bob can not have any contact or association with anyone under the age of 21, and not have any contact or association with EITHER minor victims or THEIR families.

First pre-trial is Monday October 27th
He has also deleted his original statement.
 
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fuddMOGGER said:
Bob Vogel has plead NOT guilty to all charges.

His charges include pandering obscenity involving a minor, disrupting public service, and furnishing alcohol to a minor. Bob is not allowed to consume or possess Subutex methadone except is currently prescribed and not visit or be present on any premises where alcoholic beverages, harmful intoxicants, dangerous drugs, or substance of abuse are served or present.

Bob is subject to testing his breath, hair, saliva, blood, urine at the request of any law enforcement officer and he can't leave the state of Ohio without written permission from the court.

Bob can not have any contact or association with anyone under the age of 21, and not have any contact or association with EITHER minor victims or THEIR families.

First pre-trial is Monday October 27th
He has also deleted his original statement.
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A massive LOL on this dudes fall.
I have zero sympathy for him. Just don't message teens, its a simple choice.
I know he is just after young puss, but speaking from personal experience, fuck that. Anyone that doesn't have clear memories of where they were on 9/11 should be avoided, I feel like that's just a decent overall rule.
 
Punished Mirabeau B Lamar said:
It seems like they just like arguing more than anything, whether or not it actually matters or accomplishes something. See: literally every time Ivan barges in and yells at some no-name boomer about the M16 being an AR-15 when they commit the cardinal sin of making some dumb point of the AR not being a military arm. (protip this doesn't change anyone's mind)
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Half the time when you check Ivan’s twitter he’s doing the same thing of arguing with some rando about the AR-15 being a military firearm ad nauseam, and from the way him and his same small group of fans pile-on in the argument it’s obvious they’re in a Discord somewhere searching keywords on twitter to find people to argue with. I actually sort of agree with Ivan’s point for bringing up the AR-15’s history since the “AR-15 isn’t a military weapon libtards” argument carries the implicit admission that it’s then ok if the government bans military weapons. But Discord gay ops never fucking end well, searching for people to argue with is pathetic redditor behavior that is done because it gives Ivan and his Discord trannies an ego boost, and being a smarmy asshole tends to not change peoples minds anyways.
 
Seafarer said:
I actually sort of agree with Ivan’s point for bringing up the AR-15’s history since the “AR-15 isn’t a military weapon libtards” argument carries the implicit admission that it’s then ok if the government bans military weapons.
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That’s the thing with Ivan, even when he is correct he is such an insufferable cunt that he defeats his own point.

I’ve been thinking of making a lolcow thread for the guntube/Guntwitter for a long time now. Any time Ivan or Fuddbuster or the rest gets mentioned the feeling comes back, it’s just a pity I’ve had all of them muted so I’m not up to date on their latest retardery.
 
Seafarer said:
I actually sort of agree with Ivan’s point for bringing up the AR-15’s history since the “AR-15 isn’t a military weapon libtards” argument carries the implicit admission that it’s then ok if the government bans military weapons.
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It's more that all guns should be legal and there should be no distinction. That he's using a hammer on screws shows that him and his discord are just trying to bruteforce social change without realizing that it's just the obnoxious(but true) "clip is not a magazine" argument where people will aggressively counter it instead.

"The M16 is an AR-15" could be paired with "The M9 is a Beretta 92FS" and "The CUCV is a Chevrolet Suburban" but that takes too long and sounds reasonable.
 
WhoBusTank69 said:
It's more that all guns should be legal and there should be no distinction. That he's using a hammer on screws shows that him and his discord are just trying to bruteforce social change without realizing that it's just the obnoxious(but true) "clip is not a magazine" argument where people will aggressively counter it instead.

"The M16 is an AR-15" could be paired with "The M9 is a Beretta 92FS" and "The CUCV is a Chevrolet Suburban" but that takes too long and sounds reasonable.
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Funny enough I’m pretty sure Ivan and Matt have made fun of the clip/magazine argument as being pointless and semantical when the same could be said about much of the AR-15/M16 discourse (although I suppose there’s more merit to the latter argument since it carries more important implications about 2A apologetics, in part because people have added questionable extrapolations from the original argument). When someone uses “AR-15” in present day they mean a civilian, semi-auto only version of the M16 or related rifles, even if it’s true that the M16 is just the military designation for the original full-auto AR-15. There is a reason people use “AR platform rifle” to refer to the broad range of rifles with that operating system.
 
Seafarer said:
Funny enough I’m pretty sure Ivan and Matt have made fun of the clip/magazine argument as being pointless and semantical when the same could be said about much of the AR-15/M16 discourse (although I suppose there’s more merit to the latter argument since it carries more important implications about 2A apologetics, in part because people have added questionable extrapolations from the original argument). When someone uses “AR-15” in present day they mean a civilian, semi-auto only version of the M16 or related rifles, even if it’s true that the M16 is just the military designation for the original full-auto AR-15. There is a reason people use “AR platform rifle” to refer to the broad range of rifles with that operating system.
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The M16/AR-15 nomenclature autism is the worst thing out there, and I'm sad that my favourite GunTuber BOTR actively takes part in it.
 
Foley said:
The M16/AR-15 nomenclature autism is the worst thing out there, and I'm sad that my favourite GunTuber BOTR actively takes part in it.
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I thought it was a funny joke at first, but then I realized they were dead serious and terminally autistic. BOTR's contributions were entertaining because he found literal receipts, but it continued. And continues.
 
Foley said:
The M16/AR-15 nomenclature autism is the worst thing out there, and I'm sad that my favourite GunTuber BOTR actively takes part in it.
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I feel the same way about clips/magazines and silencer/suppressor. all these terms were used by the industry at one point or other. to get all hung up on meaningless terminology out of a sense of smug superiority does nothing but hurt our arguments on terminology when it actually does matter such as with "assault rifles/assault weapons and "fully semi-automatic".

When we brow beat clueless people or even people on our own side about this dumb shit it hurt the cause.

and i think people get off on sounding smart or superior. it just rubs me wrong when someone fills their sentences with all these buzz words (they are virtue signally essentially). we've heard them all before: Muh suppressors, Muh magazines, Muh platform, Muh running the gun, Muh positivity, Muh QD, Muh glass, Muh optics, Muh battle belt, Muh admin pouch, Muh comms, Muh RECCE rye-ful,

Muh whatever they are paying me to shill this month i'm totally original and not like the other 12 guys they are paying to shill this marginally different scope-mag-pouch-helmet-earpro-NVG mount-riser-sling-muzzle device-stance-glasses-light-laser-whatever else.
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Romulus augustulus said:
all these terms were used by the industry at one point or other. to get all hung up on meaningless terminology out of a sense of smug superiority does nothing but hurt our arguments on terminology when it actually does matter such as with "assault rifles/assault weapons and "fully semi-automatic".
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"Assault Weapon" was also a marketing/enthusiast term but now that politics made it sound gay it's being whitewashed from public memory save for arbitrary bans. I think Ian once commented on it which is appropriate due to it being a forgotten part of the industry.
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Romulus augustulus said:
I feel the same way about clips/magazines and silencer/suppressor. all these terms were used by the industry at one point or other. to get all hung up on meaningless terminology out of a sense of smug superiority does nothing but hurt our arguments on terminology when it actually does matter such as with "assault rifles/assault weapons and "fully semi-automatic".
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Weapon is a language. To ignore its value is silly.
 
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