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karl showing his hand re critical race theory and systematic racism etc etc
Privately owned businesses aren't part of the "system" Karl, you buzzword-screeching retard. Is the real reason you larped as a native American during that Springfield Trapdoor shoot that you wanted to be a white savior? I thought practitioners of white guilt didn't appropriate the culture of their supposed victims.
Fuck you, Karl.
 
I'm basing this on nothing other than a gut feeling, and it's kinda a separate issue from if it's true or not.

The "Ian is a mega secret turbo liberal and he's also a narcissistic prick, trust me, I know thousands of guys on /k/ big shots in the gun industry" screams to me of a type of people here on the Farms I think is increasingly common. I don't know if there is a name for it, I don't think it counts as being an ALog. They aren't here cause they like laughing at someone stupid, they are here because they hate this person and they get mad if you don't hate that person too. Ralph, Dick Masterson, and DSP are the big ones that come to mind(who all, other than Dick, have large fanbases of what I'd consider a more traditional Farmer as well).

As far as I'm concerned, Ian does a good job producing good content, and if he kneels on the American flag while his wife gives Tyrone reperations in the next room, he keeps it out of his content, so I don't care.
 
I'm basing this on nothing other than a gut feeling, and it's kinda a separate issue from if it's true or not.

The "Ian is a mega secret turbo liberal and he's also a narcissistic prick, trust me, I know thousands of guys on /k/ big shots in the gun industry" screams to me of a type of people here on the Farms I think is increasingly common. I don't know if there is a name for it, I don't think it counts as being an ALog. They aren't here cause they like laughing at someone stupid, they are here because they hate this person and they get mad if you don't hate that person too. Ralph, Dick Masterson, and DSP are the big ones that come to mind(who all, other than Dick, have large fanbases of what I'd consider a more traditional Farmer as well).

As far as I'm concerned, Ian does a good job producing good content, and if he kneels on the American flag while his wife gives Tyrone reperations in the next room, he keeps it out of his content, so I don't care.
There's only like two or three people here that dislike Ian from what I've seen. I personally don't give a shit if anyone does, but yea I think the vast majority of guntubers are faggots.
 
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There's only like two or three people here that dislike Ian from what I've seen. I personally don't give a shit if anyone, but yea I think the vast majority of guntubers are faggots.

It's more in response to the recent discussion, and tied to a larger feeling of a type of person coming to the Farms, but I remember having a similar feeling back when the rumors of Ian being security at the CHAZ blew up to the point that he streamed a dismissal of the claims from Arizona(and his wife accidentally facedoxed herself). A lot of people grabbed that and ran with it like it was the evidence they finally needed to get everyone to hate the target if their ire.
 
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This is liberal GOLD. A maga gunman, a white cop shooting a black female, a transvestite in tactical gear? This took Deviant years to come up with...

Never mind the context that Deviant is talking about the problems with gun legislation while fingering one of the largest anti gun administrations the last 2 years on twitter.
Meanwhile in real life we already have two examples of this actual scenario playing out and it was some antifa or antifa adjacent gunning down someone in cold blood.

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New Deviant video - mildly entertaining.


Gun to my head, I could easily pick one of the groups represented by this image to disarm, based on their disproportionate contribution to gun crime. Lol.
What irritates me most about is this is the deliberate pre-framing of the conversation as if everyone only fits into one of these three groups. A more accurate version of this picture would include about a dozen armed people that aren't wearing their politics as a fucking costume standing off to the side of this Mexican standoff shaking their heads in mild disbelief while standing at low ready in case shit starts popping off.
 
What irritates me most about is this is the deliberate pre-framing of the conversation as if everyone only fits into one of these three groups. A more accurate version of this picture would include about a dozen armed people that aren't wearing their politics as a fucking costume standing off to the side of this Mexican standoff shaking their heads in mild disbelief while standing at low ready in case shit starts popping off.
The best thing to do I find, is just not engage those retards in their strawmans. All they try to do, as you said, is pre-frame the conversation into a gotchya. If you just treat them like children and pay them no mind eventually they'll just prove how fucking retarded they are on their own.
 
I dont want to add more unsubstantiated allegations to the thread, but there's a well known guntuber(not Ian or Karl) I interact with regularly who has a pretty juicy personal life. Nothing necessarily illegal or career ending, just the kinda stuff that would fit in on the farms. They've always been nice to me and have a positive reputation on the internet so I'll probably never drop the info if it doesn't get out another way. Plus I've said way too much shit on here to risk a dox. Most of what I know is second hand anyways so it wouldnt prove anything.
 
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I honestly don't know why this would surprise anyone, Karl has always shown a heavy sympathy towards the Injuns.
Having sympathy for a group that was legitimately fucked over many times by the Feds is one thing - and in fact is something I figure most 2A types can identify with. Using that sympathy to shill for an ideology/group of people that despise you and your ancestors, your culture, your way of life, and who unironically want to do everything listed in that Sam Hyde copypasta is just being a cuck.
 
I dont want to add more unsubstantiated allegations to the thread, but there's a well known guntuber(not Ian or Karl) I interact with regularly who has a pretty juicy personal life. Nothing necessarily illegal or career ending, just the kinda stuff that would fit in on the farms. They've always been nice to me and have a positive reputation on the internet so I'll probably never drop the info if it doesn't get out another way. Plus I've said way too much shit on here to risk a dox. Most of what I know is second hand anyways so it wouldnt prove anything.
Is it Othias and his poly thing?
 
Having sympathy for a group that was legitimately fucked over many times by the Feds is one thing - and in fact is something I figure most 2A types can identify with. Using that sympathy to shill for an ideology/group of people that despise you and your ancestors, your culture, your way of life, and who unironically want to do everything listed in that Sam Hyde copypasta is just being a cuck.
I think the Native Americans who legit fought the feds in the 70s are more based/real American than 99% of todays 3%r sheepdog homos. That does not preclude me from saying "Should have fought harder pussies" anytime some native whines about their own slavery through reservation.
 
I think the Native Americans who legit fought the feds in the 70s are more based/real American than 99% of todays 3%r sheepdog homos. That does not preclude me from saying "Should have fought harder pussies" anytime some native whines about their own slavery through reservation.
Lol, AIM was funded by Ghaddafi. That's why they had AKs in the 70s, years before Steyr imported them from Egypt.
 
I dont want to add more unsubstantiated allegations to the thread, but there's a well known guntuber(not Ian or Karl) I interact with regularly who has a pretty juicy personal life. Nothing necessarily illegal or career ending, just the kinda stuff that would fit in on the farms. They've always been nice to me and have a positive reputation on the internet so I'll probably never drop the info if it doesn't get out another way. Plus I've said way too much shit on here to risk a dox. Most of what I know is second hand anyways so it wouldnt prove anything.
It's very well known that James Yeager is Buck Angel, that's not exactly a bombshell(and neither is he)
 
I honestly don't know why this would surprise anyone, Karl has always shown a heavy sympathy towards the Injuns.
Karl being another white-lib savior for my dad's favorite baseball team. How dreamy of a man(child)!
Again, never understood the whole "duh wyte man brot down dem natives." Usually a view I see postulated by white liberals.
I find it funny how they believe Europeans and as a whole, whites, exclusively went out to fuck up tribes like Jack Dempsey going out to High-school boxing matches to fuck up some kiddos.
They seem too rarted, or purposefully unaware of how Europeans had a history of fucking obliterating one another.
Then one viewing of Avatar teaches them that all natives are peaceful tribes who are only trying to survive.
Fuck off with that bullshit. Every tribe tried to fuck eachother over with their own set of politics.
Chief ScrotalBull got into a shitfit with Chief AnalEagle because AnalEagle decided to tap ScrotalBull's sister. Blammo. War.

Everyone has been fucking eachother for millenia, it just so happened the natives didn't pay for the 20 dollar DLC pass to advance past bows and arrows.
 
Karl being another white-lib savior for my dad's favorite baseball team. How dreamy of a man(child)!
Again, never understood the whole "duh wyte man brot down dem natives." Usually a view I see postulated by white liberals.
I find it funny how they believe Europeans and as a whole, whites, exclusively went out to fuck up tribes like Jack Dempsey going out to High-school boxing matches to fuck up some kiddos.
They seem too rarted, or purposefully unaware of how Europeans had a history of fucking obliterating one another.
Then one viewing of Avatar teaches them that all natives are peaceful tribes who are only trying to survive.
Fuck off with that bullshit. Every tribe tried to fuck eachother over with their own set of politics.
Chief ScrotalBull got into a shitfit with Chief AnalEagle because AnalEagle decided to tap ScrotalBull's sister. Blammo. War.

Everyone has been fucking eachother for millenia, it just so happened the natives didn't pay for the 20 dollar DLC pass to advance past bows and arrows.
I'm just going to paraphrase what I've said in other threads: the natives were quite proficient at fucking each other over, taking over each other's land and territory, and being general assholes. As humans are when resources are limited.

This bullshit some people spout about "the natives had no concept of land ownership" is just that: bullshit. Yeah, the land may not have officially belonged to anyone specifically, but your stuff was still your stuff, and the tribe was going to defend their territory being encroached upon as viciously as an European colonizer, and they had enough trouble with people attacking and invading one another they actually created their own local confederacies even before the Europeans showed up. That meant they were politically sophisticated, for sure (humans tend to be), but it also spoke volumes as to the situation they were in: they would not need coalitions and peace treaties if they were already coexisting peacefully.

The big reason why we don't read about the atrocities the native American nations inflicted upon one another is because the Europeans did a great job of erasing those records since so many of them were carried only orally, and the "pro-native" groups out there refuse to allow access to any information still around because they don't want their "side" to look bad. So now all we have are the stories that survived, and even those are usually curated to make the natives look good because if you present them in any sort of negative light you get barraged by low-information idiots. Even tribes that were infamous for being such assholes other tribes allied with the Europeans against them, get whitewashed and turned into misunderstood puppydogs. Which is an insult to everybody's intelligence, because human societies are complex and nuanced.

If you transported Karl to the 1600s for all his preaching he'd be dog food within a week.
 
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