Get Your Bitcoin off any exchanges right now - For the end of the world is nigh

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For various reasons, Bitcoin is undergoing a hard fork on August 1 2017 at 0020 UTC (about 50 hours from the time of this posting. This is going to be between the current core client and a hard fork (instituted by users) called Bitcoin Cash.

Rather than go into the tech of it, the practical impact of this is that if you have BTC now on the blockchain, after the fork, you will have both BTC and the new Bitcoin Cash fork and can spend either wherever they are supported. BTC is $2659.98 as of this instant and Bitcoin Cash doesn't exist, but futures in it have been fluctuating wildly and are currently hovering around $350.

Why does this mean to get money out of exchanges and into your own wallet where you control the private key?

Because if you're on a third party exchange and the fork happens, it's the exchange who has both the BTC and BCC, and they may or may not act honorably under these circumstances. You'd much rather be in full control of the private key storing your BTC at the time of the split.

Coinbase for instance has refused to support BCC at this time although presumably they will do something with it at the appropriate time. But why trust them? In general you shouldn't keep money on exchanges for this very reason, but right now, there's a very specific reason not to.

In any event, one of the sides of the fork could collapse in price very rapidly. In that event, you'd rather have control of both currencies if there's a sudden rush of value from one currency to the other, rather than trusting that some exchange (or other online wallet) is going to treat you fairly when they have both currencies.

Anyway you have a bit under 50 hours to do this and should do it immediately if you plan on doing it, since there will inevitably be lengthy delays if you wait.

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Wait Bitcoin is undergoing a currency reform?
 
Who knew putting real value in a virtual currency with no oversight or direct control is now going to bite you in the ass

The value isn't going anywhere at present. It's just that if you have a third party in control of it and the fork ends up being the one taking off, you don't want someone else to be in control of that value. This is at least part of why the price of BTC has been going up recently, because people pulling it out of exchanges reduces liquidity and the amount available, raising the price.

This is also why futures in a currency that doesn't even exist yet are at absurd prices
 
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I've cashed in all my BTC and gotten out of it entirely for the time being. I made a bit because I bought most of it at ~2500 and sold at 2700, so I'm not at all concerned about the decision. It's still up, so it's not too late to sell. I don't want to have anything invested when the switch happens because even the best case scenario is that it dips hard before coming back up. I have little confidence in BCC considering its main proponents are Chinese miners who unfortunately get to make the decision for everyone. Regardless of what happens, there will be chaos for a short while, and I don't want to have a bunch of money anywhere near it. Selling now and reinvesting later just means I'll have more money available when it inevitably dips down below 2k after the fork.
 
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I've done the opposite and gotten everything on the blockchain instead of in any third party accounts, other than a bit I cashed out now. I'd rather be in for the split.
 
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Would it be a smart move to buy some bitcoin before this happens?

Probably not. The price is ridiculously high and may go down even drastically for a while. I wouldn't do it with any significant amount of money unless you know what you're doing.
 
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I would so, so happily contribute content to a "general cryptocurrency" thread with you autists. I am ovaries-deep in this magical ponzi scam, but have almost no-one i respect with whom to discuss its intricacies.

also fwiw i am holding no actual BTC because I am waiting for it either to dip (ideally) or else break resistance at $2800... and all of my alts that aren't long holds are too deep in the toilet to sell.
 
Rather than cash out, I moved my BTC to ETH and LTC. That is a potential option for those that want to still keep cryprocurrecy but are wary of BTC right now.
 
Rather than cash out, I moved my BTC to ETH and LTC. That is a potential option for those that want to still keep cryprocurrecy but are wary of BTC right now.

I can't imagine why anyone would have wanted to avoid the split and the opportunity to turn one crypto into identical amounts of that very crypto and another one, too. However, it is done.

If you had the sense to stay on the blockchain, here's how to claim your new money.

https://electrum.org/bcc2.txt

The main point is empty out any original BTC wallet and dump it into a new wallet with new private keys. Do that first.

Then create a BCC wallet on a completely different machine. Recover the private keys using the BIP-39 12 word thing you should have written down when you created the original wallet. (Or just actually copy over the private keys.)

Congratulations. That new wallet now has the exact amount of BCC you originally had in BTC. And because you transferred the BTC before you did that, and used a different machine, even a nasty BTC stealing malicious wallet can't steal your actual BTC.

Now you can spend both at will.

Now, that tutorial doesn't mention this, but I'd also suggest another step where you also transfer all the BCC out of that new wallet into an entirely new BCC wallet. In theory you shouldn't need to do this but in reality I'm a bit more paranoid than that. You should segregate both kinds of funds immediately just on general principle.
 
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I can't imagine why anyone would have wanted to avoid the split and the opportunity to turn one crypto into identical amounts of that very crypto and another one, too. However, it is done.

If you had the sense to stay on the blockchain, here's how to claim your new money.

https://electrum.org/bcc2.txt

The main point is empty out any original BTC wallet and dump it into a new wallet with new private keys. Do that first.

Then create a BCC wallet on a completely different machine. Recover the private keys using the BIP-39 12 word thing you should have written down when you created the original wallet. (Or just actually copy over the private keys.)

Congratulations. That new wallet now has the exact amount of BCC you originally had in BTC. And because you transferred the BTC before you did that, and used a different machine, even a nasty BTC stealing malicious wallet can't steal your actual BTC.

Now you can spend both at will.

Now, that tutorial doesn't mention this, but I'd also suggest another step where you also transfer all the BCC out of that new wallet into an entirely new BCC wallet. In theory you shouldn't need to do this but in reality I'm a bit more paranoid than that. You should segregate both kinds of funds immediately just on general principle.
Let me know how it works out
 
Who'd have thought that a fake currency backed by nothing, invented by nerds, and worth nothing of real value would turn out to have drama attached, oh my stars.
 
As for the BTC split, I recommend waiting it out. Yes, the price will drop, but it's not worth risking it with conversion. After few months the forks will collapse and again 1 BTC will be equal to 1 BTC.

Although if you're good at reverse engineering and have much free time, I'd recommend going into ETH and trying to hack existing ETH contracts. Their security is laughable.
 
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