Government documents and identification papers are invasive and stupid.

[Makhnovshchina]

I am opposed to state mandated Identification system. When you're born you do not consent to be given a birth certificate and social security number which makes you property of the state and bound to a social security system . It's an invasion of privacy. Why would your identity and personal information be attached to a document? You don't need any of this stuff, yet government demands you have it or face the consequences.

Drivers licenses are illogical, it's really just used for database to arbitrarily say who and who cannot drive, regardless of ability, leading to the Nazi regiment called the law enforcement system which tortures and kidnaps people, the police are a violent mob that's allowed to act outside of the constitution, if you can't see how draconian and corrupt they are, then you're probably the next person to get gunned down or raped by them. The FBI are the same.

A passport is a piece of paper, which means nothing, and has no bearing on your life, other than allowing the government to control who comes in and who goes out, people complain about the imaginary lines of borders yet have no issue with the imaginary value of identification papers, the problem with a passport is that it doesn't have any value, so what if I lose mine? If the government really wanted to have control over us they would demand we all have DNA registered and micro chipped into a government system, or something that's far more intrusive.

You don't need an ID card for anything, and the fact that we've accepted it and the idea of an ID system is a huge mistake.

 

[Kiwisee]

Whatever you say, Jeet

 

[Dialtone]

If they don't mean anything then post your info.

 

[Chongqing]

given a birth certificate and social security number which makes you property of the state

I think this is a huge leap.

 

[Xarpho's Return]

Every civilized country keeps records of its citizens.

 

[Niall Meanwhile]

I am opposed to state mandated Identification system. When you're born you do not consent to be given a birth certificate and social security number which makes you property of the state and bound to a social security system . It's an invasion of privacy.

You burgers do realise that this exact line of thought (and the absence of such a system on a federal level) is one of the key reasons why Latin American illegals are able to thrive (bear with me here, not enter, not just stay or hide for years, but straight up thrive) in your country largely unquestioned and undisturbed, right?

The ironic bit is that those who ree about immigration the most, and all the things illegals are allowed to do and avail themselves of, are the most prone to say that rolling out some sort of compulsory national ID thing is some ZOG globohomo deep state Soviet-style nefarious plot, if not outright the mark of the Great Beast 666.

 

[666NASTYFUCKINGFREAK666]

birth certificate and social security number which makes you property of the state

Yes.

I serve the Soviet Union United States of America.

 

[Anime Waifu NFT collector]

When you're born you do not consent to be given a birth certificate and social security number which makes you property of the state and bound to a social security system

Social security is unrelated to having an ID, you can live in a country with no welfare state or state owned pension system and still have an ID.
Also having an ID doesn't make you property of the state, again the logic doesn't follow.

It's an invasion of privacy.

It is not, you can have an ID and your privacy is not invaded in any way, the logic doesn't follow once again.

Why would your identity and personal information be attached to a document?

Because it's useful for doing paperwork since it allows people to know who you are and if you are a citizen, use your brain for two second to figure out why having a document that identifies who you are can be useful.

You don't need any of this stuff, yet government demands you have it or face the consequences.

You do need it though.

Drivers licenses are illogical, it's really just used for database to arbitrarily say who and who cannot drive.

You are retarded.

I'm not gonna bother reading the rest of what you typed, one paragraph is enough.

 

[Space_Dandy]

If we lived in a libertarian society then I'd agree. But we have tons of social services, systems to process essential parts of life, and welfare of various forms.

If you're handing out taxpayer money you'd better keep track of who is receiving it.

 

[Fek]

No game exists without willing participants. Fear makes people do silly things.