Helldivers 2 - Hell is more diverse than ever as PlayStation's demographics continue to grow and change.

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Neodanthril said:
Being oppositionally defiant with regard to changing their vision of the game is the only thing that isn't surprising about helldivers developers. The surprising part is that they ever made a game anyone wanted to play, which they have been trying very hard to rectify ever since.
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There's nothing wrong with upkeeping the integrity/vison of a game you create. The issue comes in when it was marketed as something else other than the vison. The game was marketed as a horde shooter where you kill strong enemies with powerful weapons, so they don't have room to do the 'grunt fantasy.' I suspect the marketing was probably pushed by sony to drive up sales and AH got lucky with a massive game and didn't know how to handle it.

At this point they have no excuse though, it has been over 3 cycles of them ruining the game and having to undo it. They should just be giving the players what they want and using money to build the next game that has their retarded niche vision attached if that is truly their dream, not fucking over the 1000s playing their current game.
 
Upcoming server maintenance. A lot of people in the steam comments are theorizing that they are implementing mod detection. I don't know the technical specifics of how mods like Bingus works, so I am unsure if that's feasible to be implemented on the backend like this downtime would suggest.
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There is also a non 0 chance is is genuinely just server maintenance. Arrowhead has done well in teaching people (including me) to be paranoid schizophrenics around them.

Bottom line is if Arrowhead decides to shoot themselves in the head here they can expect another review bomb for sure. But even though I fully expect the worst, I'm not too torn up at the idea. After all, I can think of no better a way to say goodbye to this game I love than to forcibly get control of the steering wheel for a month and play the game how I wanted to as one last fuck you to those Swedish kike niggers, while all they can do is sit in the cuck chair and bawl their eyes out.
 
Inco G. Nito said:
Upcoming server maintenance. A lot of people in the steam comments are theorizing that they are implementing mod detection. I don't know the technical specifics of how mods like Bingus works, so I am unsure if that's feasible to be implemented on the backend like this downtime would suggest.
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There is also a non 0 chance is is genuinely just server maintenance. Arrowhead has done well in teaching people (including me) to be paranoid schizophrenics around them.

Bottom line is if Arrowhead decides to shoot themselves in the head here they can expect another review bomb for sure. But even though I fully expect the worst, I'm not too torn up at the idea. After all, I can think of no better a way to say goodbye to this game I love than to forcibly get control of the steering wheel for a month and play the game how I wanted to as one last fuck you to those Swedish kike niggers, while all they can do is sit in the cuck chair and bawl their eyes out.
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Bingus himself has said the mods only work client side, which is why one player can do stuff like modify weapons and fix bugs without it applying to everyone else in the lobby, so the mods should be fine.

Though that doesn't mean Arrowhead or Sony still won't try to do something about this and HDSE.

Doral Gold said:
They could easily add it but they have gone on record saying they won't because muh realism.

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I hate these devs but personally think it is probably the correct decision. If it were a thing every lobby would be fully dripped Truth Enforcers & Masters of Ceremony and it would tarnish the world quite a bit in my eyes. I like the utility drip aesthetic like darksouls.

It is surprising that it is something they double down on so hard after all this time though, they could make a ton of money from transmog.
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Add an amor levelling system that unlocks transmog only once you max out the armor. That way it's around, but you have to work for it. Armor passives are getting way to cluttered because they have to mix and match existing passives together, which has the side effect of making other armors obsolete. The Engineering Kit passive is now outclassed by the Entrenched Division medium armor passive.

Their bacon flavored apple thing doesn't work either, since the Illuminate are the biggest bacon flavored apple around.
 
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The modding scene is crazy right now. Some fucking chad figured out how to port the scrapped cultists into the current Illuminate. The mod has a lot of problems, but it works.

I've heard claims that the mods are vibe coded. If that's the case, imagine being Arrowhead, having over 100 developers, and having hundreds of millions of dollars, and being backed by a billion dollar corporation. An yet it takes you over two years to work on fixing simple bugs like strat bounce and hellpod locking.

But a clanker does it within a few days. They should be humiliated. If AH and Sony do take action against the mods, it will be to save face from humiliation, not out of care for the players.
 
Doctor PooPoo Head said:
I've heard claims that the mods are vibe coded.
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The modding revolution in Helldivers is because of AI and reverse engineering shit with it. It's one of the big factors of why people are getting upset about them, the other one being that people with OP weapon mods can join other people's games and ruin the fun for the host.
 
Point Man said:
The modding revolution in Helldivers is because of AI and reverse engineering shit with it. It's one of the big factors of why people are getting upset about them, the other one being that people with OP weapon mods can join other people's games and ruin the fun for the host.
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Oh yes, I agree. Have all the fun you want in private lobbies, don't be a dick and bring it into public ones.
 
Point Man said:
the other one being that people with OP weapon mods can join other people's games and ruin the fun for the host.
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There is 0 harm that can be done in a game where the host can kick freely and players can leave without penalty.

I also want to offer you this as a thought experiment: If I used a mod in your game that buffs a weapon, a mod that you would kick me for if you knew I was using it... But you never figure out I'm using said mod because it doesn't meaningfully affect you, does it actually matter?
 
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Doctor PooPoo Head said:
I've heard claims that the mods are vibe coded. If that's the case, imagine being Arrowhead, having over 100 developers, and having hundreds of millions of dollars, and being backed by a billion dollar corporation. An yet it takes you over two years to work on fixing simple bugs like strat bounce and hellpod locking.
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Worth noting that they've basically had the game on life support for more than a year and a half by now. For all intents and purposes, they abandoned the game.
https://www.reddit.com/r/HelldiversUnfiltered/comments/1sqypab/comment/ohb6fzr/
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Inco G. Nito said:
There is 0 harm that can be done in a game where the host can kick freely and players can leave without penalty.

I also want to offer you this as a thought experiment: If I used a mod in your game that buffs a weapon, a mod that you would kick me for if you knew I was using it... But you never figure out I'm using said mod because it doesn't meaningfully affect you, does it actually matter?
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I don't even really subscribe to the idea that using mods in public lobbies is a bad thing since like you said the host can kick, I was just saying that's just one of the reasons people are giving for being against the whole modding situation. It's not a good reason, but it's one of them.
 
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