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They denied it
Helldivers 2 - Hell is more diverse than ever as PlayStation's demographics continue to grow and change.
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Redditor is claiming to be in talks with a law firm for a class action lawsuit against Sony.
I'm currently in the talks with a law firm to potentially file a class action lawsuit against Sony.
Mainly on the basis that they sold and are continuing to sell helldivers 2 to customers in regions that do not support PSN. But also potentially for misleading consumers here in the US.
I will have updates next Monday/Tuesday after preliminary meetings with the lawyers.
DM me if you're interested for more details. Please also document Sony's changes in their wording regarding PSN account requirements.
And no I am not joking, there is a valid case against Sony here.
Edit: Yes I understand the lawsuit could be on shakier grounds here in the US, that's why I'm having a consultation with the firm next week.
However Sony's deceptive practices are much more clear cut in countries with stricter consumer laws and no PSN support.
We are helldivers. Even if I fail my mission, somebody in another country can and should pick up the baton.
Mainly on the basis that they sold and are continuing to sell helldivers 2 to customers in regions that do not support PSN. But also potentially for misleading consumers here in the US.
I will have updates next Monday/Tuesday after preliminary meetings with the lawyers.
DM me if you're interested for more details. Please also document Sony's changes in their wording regarding PSN account requirements.
And no I am not joking, there is a valid case against Sony here.
Edit: Yes I understand the lawsuit could be on shakier grounds here in the US, that's why I'm having a consultation with the firm next week.
However Sony's deceptive practices are much more clear cut in countries with stricter consumer laws and no PSN support.
We are helldivers. Even if I fail my mission, somebody in another country can and should pick up the baton.
The Pulverizer
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The overall positive reviews have now dropped to 65%. Spitz is now on the side of players all of a sudden.
You are all a bunch of retarded crybabies.
What's that? The review score dropped to Mixed?! Uhh, we are on your side. Actually, we ALWAYS have been on your side!
Someone is trying very hard to keep his job.
You are all a bunch of retarded crybabies.
What's that? The review score dropped to Mixed?! Uhh, we are on your side. Actually, we ALWAYS have been on your side!
Someone is trying very hard to keep his job.
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Cmon Gabe no questions asked refunds. You know you want to.
Not only is it the right thing to do it will be funny.
Not only is it the right thing to do it will be funny.
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Soyny (and Valve's) legal would probably blow a gasket if he did it without their say-so. It would be funny though, yes.
The Pulverizer
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But wait. According to the fat communist whore CM -their team is truly great- they couldn't give less of a fuck for the countries that currently can't make a PSN account.
Fuck 'em up!
They are fucking with EU countries
This won't end well for them. Telling citizens of a EU country that they can no longer access the game they paid money for is a very bad idea. For are all their faults, the EU was able to tell Apple to fuck off with their proprietary USB connectors.Fuck 'em up!
This lawsuit makes a lot more sense now. Don't forget that Arrowhead is a EU studio. Scamming people who live in EU member states is a really bad idea.
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An easier thing for him to do would be to suspend sales of the game on Steam until Sony clarifies its legal requirements.
A lawsuit in the USA will be harder and will depend very much on how Sony worded the original contract that all players signed without reading. Even so, there is the principle of unenforceable provisions, where a contract cannot be enforced by the court because to do so would be contrary to law. In this case this would be the nightmare world of consumer protection and trade practice law.
To say this is a particularly autistic and byzantine branch of law would be an understatement, but a suitably motivated law firm that is willing to throw a couple million dollars in billable hours at the project could make it happen.
On that note, those of you who are requesting refunds and being refused, make sure you save all your correspondence. If a class action does take off, these will be essential to your ability to enter the suit. Also under no circumstances should you sign the PSN user agreement. This would essentially mean you legally accept the changes.
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Cross-posting from the sony hate-thread as it's currently covering this game's issues.
TL;DR they're using the negative reviews as ammo to mount up and ride on Sony for this.
TL;DR they're using the negative reviews as ammo to mount up and ride on Sony for this.
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I hope this faggot gets anal prolapse from taking Sony's cock up his ass.The overall positive reviews have now dropped to 65%. Spitz is now on the side of players all of a sudden.
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You are all a bunch of retarded crybabies.
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What's that? The review score dropped to Mixed?! Uhh, we are on your side. Actually, we ALWAYS have been on your side!
Someone is trying very hard to keep his job.
Back me up!
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I do think this dude has the right approach to in trying to get a refund
I'm probably going to wait a little bit since I got my key off GMG so probably not going to get a refund either way.
I posted this earlier but totally broke the post by trying to add a steam support link
IF YOU ARE REFUNDING, USE THIS AS YOUR REFUND MESSAGE: "The developers have announced that they will restrict my access to the game unless I sign up for and use a third-party service and account. This requirement was obfuscated at release and waived for three months, before it was announced as a REQUIREMENT to continue to play the game at all."
Use the reasoning "The multiplayer doesn't work" because, well, it won't, unless you make a PSN account (and give Sony those juicy active player numbers that they want so badly).
This request message was built off of some recommendations from folks on the Helldivers discord, as well as PirateSoftware's own refund request (source at 27:19), as he has WAY more industry knowledge than I do. As I understand it, the specific mention of THIRD PARTY SIGNUP is a HUGE red flag for Steam, they take it really seriously, especially since the requirement was obfuscated and waived for months so that we all missed our refund windows.
Even in worst case scenarios where we dont get money back, it'll still send a message to Valve and Arrowhead that Sony's bs is not okay.
And to think, we thought the bugs and bots were bad enough...
I'm probably going to wait a little bit since I got my key off GMG so probably not going to get a refund either way.
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What's the matter Spitz, I thought the gamers were all just being lazy little complainers who aren't willing to take 2 minutes out of their day to register an email address? Why do you feel the need to now write an entire essay about how concerned the dev team is and how its not their fault?
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I really was considering getting this game. But thankfully Sony decided for me. I don't even have a PS5 so why the heck would I make a PSN account? I ain't no Sony Pony, pimp.
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It is right and good to see "community manager" faggots twist in the wind and fucking suffer.
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I mean it sucks that a company made a great game fumbled this fucking hard but sticking their head on a pike as a warning for others seems fully justified given the amount of shit other gaming companies have pulled
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Community managers were a fucking mistake. Sucks for the devs, because even if the account linking is the core of the problem, that retard made it infinitely fucking worse. If he wasn't a fucking troglodyte and waited a day before sperging out at the community the devs themselves could've kept a lot of the goodwill and it would've been a players+devs vs Sony kind of situation, but here we are.
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Even if PSN didn't have issues depending on what country you reside in, it's fucking ridiculous to expect people to keep making throwaway accounts that compromise their privacy and security when they already have an account for the platform they bought the game on. Making a PSN account offers no net benefit. It's literally just another account with an email and password to be compromised in a breach. And PSN is infamous for being targeted by hacks.