Here is why nothing is really scary

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Its horror season again. Or would be, if horror wasn't fucking stupid.

At best, spooky stories can be weird or mysterious or make you think about things beyond the normal world we know. Too bad the field is taken entirely by idiots with no imagination.

Just a few things.

Psycho Killers

Oh, a man in a bunny suit murdered people once! Whatever.

The problem with psycho killers is the problem is easily solved.

Pull out your gun, pull the trigger, BAM! He ain't killing anyone no more. Unless they do that stupid Michael Myers thing where they just survive anyway, but at that point its some little kid's creepypasta.

Killer Monsters

Oh, if you go into the woods some critter might gobble you!

So what? Sure, that's tense, but its not scary, really.

In fact too many horror concepts rely on "this thing could kill you or make you feel a lot of pain then kill you." Hey, buddy, being in pain is old news to me. Pain is something you adapt to. The fear of dying is itself kind of weak, as again that's more a "tension" factor than something actually horrifying. Besides, in this day and age, a lot of people actually want to die.

The Protagonist Did A Bad Thing

This one seems to often be used in video games, ever since the days of Silent Hill 2. Today games like Omori and Stories Untold also use this twist.

Let me be frank:

I don't care about their god-damn trauma. If I'm playing a horror game, or reading a book, or whatever, I want you to on some level enlighten me about the nature of the universe. That's one reason the original Lovecraft Mythos is so enticing. Things like the Hounds of Tindalos raise so many questions. And frankly, with how many people these days will put themselves down just to get pity-parties started, this kind of thing has worn thin.

(It doesn't help that in most of these stories, the actions they took are.... actually completely understandible in context).

Here's Some Random Real Life Fact

This is something I see people do as... I almost wanna say "a shitpost" except I've seen it IRL. One example is I wanted an uncle to come up with a scary story, and his answer was "here's something scary, that people actually believe all that Bible shit and do crazy things because of it."

I already know Kiwis are gonna say "the real terror is you had an atheist uncle."

Another variant is "here's something this animal in the wild does that we think is so freaky!"

Who. Fucking. Cares. Yes, masses are dumb, people believe stupid things, and nature is often gross. This isn't news, its not a profound statement.

This also, by the way, goes for people who are gonna say something like "Boku no Pico exists" (anime is not scary) or "here's a gross image" (gross is not scary).... and anything involving "people with stupid beliefs" well... see what I said about psycho killers.

To be honest though....

I'm not sure what I would find scary. Even that Lovecraft stuff is more "interesting" and perhaps a bit escapist rather than something that keeps me up at night.

Eh.
 
Yeah that's horror.

In fact I'm guessing that's why this season is so popular. With how many people nowadays are anxious balls of nerves, do you really think Halloween would be that well liked if it necessarily terrified people?

Being interesting and escapist (and therefore calming in it own way) is largely what the popularity of horror hangs its hat on nowadays.

There are definitely still things that are able to scare people, but that tends to evolve over time so obviously if you're looking at mass produced tropes then it's not going to be effective. Not to mention generally effective horror depends a lot on its structure and presentation, so just the idea itself won't be anything more than interesting or slightly spooky.
 
I don't get where you are trying to get to.

Are the classic horror movies meant to be truly horrifying? Probably not.

What's truly scary is not the serial killer in a costume, or the monster in the forest. It's what you can actually relate to.

There are many things in many movies that truly qualify as scary. It just so happens that most horror movies are not in the business of actually scaring people, just give them a thrill.

You are part of a fringe of the general population no big company will ever cater to. Make your peace with it.
 
I’m a big horror fan, but I only like specific types. Mostly psychological horror, and I like my horror quiet, atmospheric, and with a slow burn pacing. But it’s like you said, horror doesn’t really scare me, it’s just interesting. When done right I think it’s the most interesting.
 
Scary movies I would recommend: Requiem for a Dream, Ex Machina, Black Sea, Leviathan(2014, Andrey Zvyagintsev), Side Effects, Only God Forgives.

Happy October everyone!
 
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You are literally coping if you don't find the concept of death terrifying.

Doesn't mean that's a bad thing; soldiers are afraid to die, but they place grander causes above their own lives. It's a cope, a noble one, in fact, but a cope nonetheless.

Hedonism is born from a need to distract oneself from death, and modern society, for all its purported nihilism, is utterly hedonistic; utterly afraid of death.

Don't say you aren't afraid of anything, because fear is what makes you sane
 
Don't say you aren't afraid of anything, because fear is what makes you sane
Seems to me fear often leads to stupidity. I mean there's a reason fear-mongering is a sure way to get an audience and direct policy. And then there's of course historic cases of mass hysteria like the Salem Witch Trials.

I've never quite gelled with the Happening-esque view that if we didn't fear anything, we would all suddenly be doing stupidly suicidal things. There is still such a thing as logic and reason. I can refuse to drink alcohol because I know it'll make me sick without having to literally live in fear of getting sick.

EDIT: Also, everyone is afraid of death? Have you never met a suicidal person?
 
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I never have been afraid of death. It's just a fact of life that eventually happens to literally every single living thing.
If you've been alive for this long, it means you've avoided the things that would've lead to an early death. What drives you to this level of avoidance? Because society tells you to?

Not keeping death on the forefront of your mind IS a cope. Not in the "cope seethe dilate" way, but in the psychological sense: to deal with or mitigate an obstacle.

I can refuse to drink alcohol because I know it'll make me sick without having to literally live in fear of getting sick.
But why do you avoid the prospect of becoming sick? Because you have a healthy fear of it.

When I wrote my first comment, I was addressing healthy fears, fears that prevent you from doing dumb things. Living in perpetual fear of something is not a healthy fear, quite the opposite; it's an unhealthy fear.
 
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I thought you were going to go on about how the concept of nothing is the scariest thing ever. I am disappoint.

Anyway.
 
Monsters aren't scary because you can just imagine yourself fucking them and all the fear goes away
 
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I’m a big horror fan, but I only like specific types. Mostly psychological horror, and I like my horror quiet, atmospheric, and with a slow burn pacing. But it’s like you said, horror doesn’t really scare me, it’s just interesting. When done right I think it’s the most interesting.
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Not keeping death on the forefront of your mind IS a cope.
.... or I just live in a modern society where I'm practically guaranteed long life.

If we were barbarians in a primitive hunter-gatherer society still running from dinosaurs, I would understand you, but we're not, so I don't.

But why do you avoid the prospect of becoming sick? Because you have a healthy fear of it.
I think we're working with different definitions of "Fear."

It sounds like you're trying to say any and all desire to avoid something is rooted in fear, which is just not a notion I buy. I don't drink Dr. Pepper because I tried it and hated the taste, but I would find it silly if someone flipped that to claim that I'm literally scared of Dr. Pepper.

Same deal with being sick. Even if its a disease that is harmless and you know will pass, its not a fun experience, so I avoid it.

I thought you were going to go on about how the concept of nothing is the scariest thing ever. I am disappoint.
That kind of thing is just way too abstract IMO. I've never been sold on "this concept is scary if you dwell on it long enough" type deals.

Besides which, a universe of nothing (and no I'm not referring to Netflix's streaming selection) would be a universe where.... well... we wouldn't exist to be able to be scared of our non-existence anyway. And if you mean the idea that you somehow stop existing but everything else goes on... same deal. You personally would never know. That said I kinda think that second scenario is fundamentally impossible: if you ever lived or walked, there is SOME record of you, even if its as small as a blade of grass you bent.
 
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